Don't do that, it'll warp the uber sensitive and fragile flim flam shuu shuu valve.
(It'll be fine
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Don't do that, it'll warp the uber sensitive and fragile flim flam shuu shuu valve.
(It'll be fine
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What a load of bollocks, still keeping up the tradition of the 1200 section!
In extreme circumstances, it has been known to melt the oil sightglass. There's no need to warm the engine up, as long as you don't rag the arse off it when you DO ride it.
It's all in the manual.
swissrob
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make sure to carry a fuel pump controller and key antenna ring as they will for sure shit out on you at some stage.
oh if you wont like the idea of corrosion dont look too hard at the front cover of the engine
oh if you wont like the idea of corrosion dont look too hard at the front cover of the engine
Bendy toy
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Any engine on tickover isnt running at its best with rich fuel mixture to wash oil off the cylinders and low revs casuing everything to bounce around. Its a lot less stressful to any engine to just get on and ride. The neighbours will also be happy your habits have changed. Who want even a standard exhaust plodding away for 5 minutes whle the rider does up all his zips bucklss and gloves.
Another bikers myth is those who ride away with one leg trailing in the breeze. What IS that about? They look so pretentious and actually have less control of the bike! Just pull away and get feet on pegs as quickly as possible. Same when stopping. I can virtually stop befoe I put my feet down.
The GS will surprise with its grip and handling on any road but especially rough surfaces. It also HAS to be counter steered. Its not got heavy steering but lean your body and nothing much happens. Also dont bother to use the steering and front brake as you stop to tilt the bike towards the leg you have ready. It works great on auto dive tele forks. It does absolutely nothing on the GS, so have both feet ready until you are used to it. If its a GSA you'll need long legs or thick soled boots!
These are small prices to pay for the great handling and minimal fork dive on the brakes. It behaves like something half its weight.
Last point about leaving an engine ticking over - Apart from wasting fuel, it also stresses the valve drive system and any other accessory drives. Cars with cam belts will say something like change the belt at 70K miles but if doing mostly short journeys at low revs change every 40K miles (my renault does anyway). The GS has cam chains (unlikely to break) but they will still wear out eventually so why stress it for no benefit.
Another bikers myth is those who ride away with one leg trailing in the breeze. What IS that about? They look so pretentious and actually have less control of the bike! Just pull away and get feet on pegs as quickly as possible. Same when stopping. I can virtually stop befoe I put my feet down.
The GS will surprise with its grip and handling on any road but especially rough surfaces. It also HAS to be counter steered. Its not got heavy steering but lean your body and nothing much happens. Also dont bother to use the steering and front brake as you stop to tilt the bike towards the leg you have ready. It works great on auto dive tele forks. It does absolutely nothing on the GS, so have both feet ready until you are used to it. If its a GSA you'll need long legs or thick soled boots!
These are small prices to pay for the great handling and minimal fork dive on the brakes. It behaves like something half its weight.
Last point about leaving an engine ticking over - Apart from wasting fuel, it also stresses the valve drive system and any other accessory drives. Cars with cam belts will say something like change the belt at 70K miles but if doing mostly short journeys at low revs change every 40K miles (my renault does anyway). The GS has cam chains (unlikely to break) but they will still wear out eventually so why stress it for no benefit.
AberdeenAngus
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Unless you have a 36"+ inside leg, try not to stop next to a pothole.
When visiting Tesco/Sainsburys/Morrisons, while in the car park, you MUST stand up on the pegs, for the full RTW image
Don't take a GS out of the carpark via the pedestrian exit. The bikes are a lot wider than Japanese bikes. Chances are, your engine/engine bars will catch the barriers and you'll drop the bike and be trapped between the barriers DAMHIK
When visiting Tesco/Sainsburys/Morrisons, while in the car park, you MUST stand up on the pegs, for the full RTW image
Don't take a GS out of the carpark via the pedestrian exit. The bikes are a lot wider than Japanese bikes. Chances are, your engine/engine bars will catch the barriers and you'll drop the bike and be trapped between the barriers DAMHIK
Learn to read the camber of the road when filtering or planning to stop. The road surface can sometimes be further away than you think!
Never eat pork pies on a Friday, and don't assume that all GS riders frequent this site.
Have it serviced on a Wednesday, check the tyre pressure on a Sunday and always make sure that you check the oil the same way.... What ever way that is... Feel free to ask about Oil at any time and look to post as many news articles in the pub as you can find on the Daily Mail website.
Funny videos of Hitler talking about GS' go down very well....
Please don't post asking about "funny noises" when you pull away, from the Gearbox, Drive train etc..... some one will post "they all do that" just before it spits all its bearings out....
Remember its Air/Oil cooled..... the hint here is AIR... Air needs to move over the Oil Cooler and Engine..... so, best not let it run too much on tickover...... if you do the headers glow red, (do not touch) and the oil sightglass will melt (plastic) and the oil will run out onto the floor....... then you will hear a sort of muffled "bumpf" and it will stop working.
Don't ask what "timmys rules" are..... just suss it out, it's easier....
Above all enjoy and welcome to BuMw
Have it serviced on a Wednesday, check the tyre pressure on a Sunday and always make sure that you check the oil the same way.... What ever way that is... Feel free to ask about Oil at any time and look to post as many news articles in the pub as you can find on the Daily Mail website.
Funny videos of Hitler talking about GS' go down very well....
Please don't post asking about "funny noises" when you pull away, from the Gearbox, Drive train etc..... some one will post "they all do that" just before it spits all its bearings out....
Remember its Air/Oil cooled..... the hint here is AIR... Air needs to move over the Oil Cooler and Engine..... so, best not let it run too much on tickover...... if you do the headers glow red, (do not touch) and the oil sightglass will melt (plastic) and the oil will run out onto the floor....... then you will hear a sort of muffled "bumpf" and it will stop working.
Don't ask what "timmys rules" are..... just suss it out, it's easier....
Above all enjoy and welcome to BuMw
jordicamu
Registered user
The most important thing: try to avoid "objects" in the road. I didn't do it and you can see the result in the picture.
I had this accident going to work the first day after a 21 day trip to Capadoccia from Madrid and the only problem I did notice in my journey was a bigger oil use than I expected ( it looks to be normal in this engines at the beginning), and high temperature in traffic jams, specially in Athens and Istanbul. Apart from that, I think is a good bike. I will buy another one if my vertebra fixes properly.
Enjoy your new bike and be safe.
trainman
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chinese whispers - i think what you read was about the old twins that leeched oil into the LH side if left parked on the side stand and produced black smoke on start up, doesnt seem to happen these days
you could have done worse and asked what oil you need
Bendy toy
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Many light aircraft engines have the cylinders under the crank - so the pilot can actually see ahead. These will be dry sump but they dont have any problems with oil consumption or piston "hydraulicing".
Sandman
Registered user
Parking your bike in this position will prevent hot oil melting the oil sight glass. You may however experience some unusual noises when pulling away from a standstill and also there is greater potential for clunking noises from the gearbox.
After parking in this position the steering will be very poor and vibration may be felt through the bars.
Bendy toy
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I thought you were joking when I read this earlier today but you're not, are you?
Not a joke. ALL bikes including pedal bikes steer by counter steering unless moving very slowly. Its how we keep the wheel under the centre of gravity or move the wheel to make the bike lean. To lean right the wheel has to momentarily move left. The opposite steer brings it up again.
I always sit on still the bike and steer with the bars, so for me the GS was the same as any other. My brother steers with his waist/arse and nearly binned it into a hedge before he realised it has to be shown the way. I can see the point of that riding style on a race track but for roads its too much like hard work for my mind.
I have struggled with the steering and low speed balance being not affected by the brakes. On my previous Yamaha, I had not realised that pulling to a stop, I steer left and tap the front brakes to make the bike lean right, so tips gently towards my supporting leg. The GS just stops and falls one way or the other. Brakes have zero influence on which way it falls.
These are small issues more than made up for by the handling but they have takes some getting used to.
I'm really not sure why you have gone to such lengths to explain this. Your original words "It HAS to be counter steered" struck me as you feeling that no other bike HAS to be counter steered except a 1200 GS, hence my comment.
You then state above what we already know, so why state the 1200 "HAS to be c/steered"
Your brother is steering with the bars. No amount of body shifting is going to steer a bike, it is all at the bars.
sanensafe
Registered user
Well, thanks for the replies; most useful. 
I know what you mean about countersteering, when I went for the test ride I tried to weight the pegs in corners, what a waste of time and effort.
So not only does my new bike have a few idiosyncrasies, it would appear the forum members have a sense of humour too.
Looking forward to getting the bike and learning to love it and getting to a few meets to talk bike bollox with other Tossers.
I fortunately have one of the main things required for GSA ownership, ridiculously long legs.
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I know what you mean about countersteering, when I went for the test ride I tried to weight the pegs in corners, what a waste of time and effort.
So not only does my new bike have a few idiosyncrasies, it would appear the forum members have a sense of humour too.
Looking forward to getting the bike and learning to love it and getting to a few meets to talk bike bollox with other Tossers.
I fortunately have one of the main things required for GSA ownership, ridiculously long legs.
up:up:up:Sent from my tablet with spelling & grammar as if I'm on them.
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