Triumph Tiger 2022 v GS 1250

[BigKev67]

The new Triumph has keyless, bad, but the good news is you can cancel the keyless function
I would expect the 1200 to vibrate more than the 900

 

[pcarnut]

I recently sold my 2018 Tiger 1200 after putting nearly 40k miles on it. I think it is a fantastic bike, but... I have shortish legs, 31" inseam, and so the seat height was an issue, and yes, it is top heavy, although in fairness that disappears once moving. To help with this I used 20mm lowering links which helped a lot. One downside of lowering the bike though was I scraping my pegs more often. I was excited to see the new 900 and was considering it, but after seeing it in the flesh it didn't feel like a premium machine, and the T-plane crank with added vibes had no appeal.

Triumph were supposed to introduce the new 1200 last year but we all know how that worked out. So, I test rode a friends GS1250 one afternoon this past July and was sold. Lower CG, less weight, and the punch of the 1250 motor was impressive. I did a roll-on with a buddy on his Tiger 1200 and the GS easily pulled away. So, a 2021 GS sits in my garage and the Tiger has a new owner.

I'm disappointed Triumph didn't come out with two versions of the new bike, the Rally with the T-plane crank for the green lane off-road guys, and the GT with the Speed Triple crank and conventional firing order. It's the same motor/block, just swap some parts. I also like that my GS is basically the same weight as the new Tiger but I get to keep my single-sided swing arm.
This biggest disappointment for me with the GS is the suspension. The ESA is just not working for me, way too little damping when in Soft mode, so that just leaves me with one usable mode, Dynamic, which is fine for twisty bits, but a little to firm for just cruising.

Anyway, I'm still very interested to see how the new Triumph does in reviews but for the moment I'll be keeping the GS.

 

[richardbd]

I get my GS next week to replace my Tiger 1200. The servicing is not as it appears - you have to service it every year regardless of mileage

They all do that sir...

 

[richardbd]

Any views on its chances at taking share from the GS?

Having looked at it (and sat on its seat which appears to be made from a cheap bath sponge) my guess would be bugger all...

 

[autogs]

Having looked at it (and sat on its seat which appears to be made from a cheap bath sponge) my guess would be bugger all...

not cancelling the v4 then rich?

 

[richardbd]

Not yet ;-)


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[roundincircles]

I recently sold my 2018 Tiger 1200 after putting nearly 40k miles on it. I think it is a fantastic bike, but... I have shortish legs, 31" inseam, and so the seat height was an issue, and yes, it is top heavy, although in fairness that disappears once moving. To help with this I used 20mm lowering links which helped a lot. One downside of lowering the bike though was I scraping my pegs more often. I was excited to see the new 900 and was considering it, but after seeing it in the flesh it didn't feel like a premium machine, and the T-plane crank with added vibes had no appeal.

Triumph were supposed to introduce the new 1200 last year but we all know how that worked out. So, I test rode a friends GS1250 one afternoon this past July and was sold. Lower CG, less weight, and the punch of the 1250 motor was impressive. I did a roll-on with a buddy on his Tiger 1200 and the GS easily pulled away. So, a 2021 GS sits in my garage and the Tiger has a new owner.

I'm disappointed Triumph didn't come out with two versions of the new bike, the Rally with the T-plane crank for the green lane off-road guys, and the GT with the Speed Triple crank and conventional firing order. It's the same motor/block, just swap some parts. I also like that my GS is basically the same weight as the new Tiger but I get to keep my single-sided swing arm.
This biggest disappointment for me with the GS is the suspension. The ESA is just not working for me, way too little damping when in Soft mode, so that just leaves me with one usable mode, Dynamic, which is fine for twisty bits, but a little to firm for just cruising.

Anyway, I'm still very interested to see how the new Triumph does in reviews but for the moment I'll be keeping the GS.

I put Touratech esa suspension on my GS1250. The spring is custom made to your weight. It's crazy expensive and you could just fit the rear. It improves the ride and wheel control especially at speed plus removes the floating tendency of the stock suspenders.

 

[pcarnut]

I put Touratech esa suspension on my GS1250. The spring is custom made to your weight. It's crazy expensive and you could just fit the rear. It improves the ride and wheel control especially at speed plus removes the floating tendency of the stock suspenders.

Thanks, at this point I think I'll probably try putting a Wilburs on the rear which is where the most movement seems coming from. I'm going to call Ted Porter(here in Ca) first tho and get some feedback.

 

[HGS]

Saw the Tiger 1200 GT Pro today at the NEC
Looks lovely in the blue and grey
Not for me though
Weird tyre sizing for the mainly road going version
Needs a rack for the luggage - They could have developed an integrated mounting system
Not as comfy as the GS
I will wait with my GS to see what BMW do next update

 

[Gs12bos]

GS for me , all the way! Triumph will have to up there game further to beat the world class GS, Looks like there trying to copy BMW.

 

[MIKE R]

Had a good look at the road going Tiger 1200 at the bike show

Looks very good and I'll probably have a test ride in the Spring for curiosity

But I tend to go on a couple of European tours each year (managed 2 in 2021 and have 3 booked for '22 Corvid permitting) and a sat nav is very important to me

Although Triumph are targeting the GS/GSA there is no sat nav provision at the moment. The staff at the bike show suggested using the TFT navigation but, as far as I am aware this just informs you when to turn. He then suggested Ram mounts on the handlebars or mounting on the handlebar bracket like on the f850GS.

I want a sat nav above the TFT screen, ideally with handlebar integration. Many other bikes which are less expensive and are not dedicated tourers have a sat nav fixing bar.

Big Fu par on Triumph's part IMHO

Mike

 

[Deleted account 250319001]

I bought one. Hated it. Sold it eight months later. Engine was gorgeous though. Gritty, powerful.
All that said, Now with much of what they got wrong on the early models, I'd certainly have a look.

 

[batman1]

I came from a 1200 Explorer to a GS, the Triumph is a fab smooth engine but it’s also too tall, and you can feel it at low speeds, still a good bike but as Scotty says…..’you cannie change the laws of physics’ and that is where the low slung boxer makes it a winner for me.

 

[roundincircles]

Had a good look at the road going Tiger 1200 at the bike show

Looks very good and I'll probably have a test ride in the Spring for curiosity

But I tend to go on a couple of European tours each year (managed 2 in 2021 and have 3 booked for '22 Corvid permitting) and a sat nav is very important to me

Although Triumph are targeting the GS/GSA there is no sat nav provision at the moment. The staff at the bike show suggested using the TFT navigation but, as far as I am aware this just informs you when to turn. He then suggested Ram mounts on the handlebars or mounting on the handlebar bracket like on the f850GS.

I want a sat nav above the TFT screen, ideally with handlebar integration. Many other bikes which are less expensive and are not dedicated tourers have a sat nav fixing bar.

Big Fu par on Triumph's part IMHO

Mike

Can't believe there is no SatNav app or integration....surely there is, its a touring bike!

 

[BDG]

Can't believe there is no SatNav app or integration....surely there is, its a touring bike!

The navigation apps on both the 2021 1250RT and the 2021 Ducati V4 Multistrada I rode to the South of France and back for Bike Magazine had both the journalist and myself wishing we had old fashioned stand alone sat navs. Both apps were rubbish.

Maybe Triumph don’t want to use something that isn’t properly functional yet.

 

[Nice 'n' Fat]

Lots of comments about the old Triumph having a nice smooth engine

Wait until you ride the new one with the T-Plane crank