Tyre Advice

[batman1]

So they are week 22 from 2015 so coming up for 6 years old, if they have been stored correctly will still be ok and for £49, just wear them out quick.

Full price tyres I would never expect them to be older than 2 years.

Frankh, I’d better get my gear on right now as this (below) is from the Avon web site......

The British Rubber Manufacturers Association advise tyres should be used within 6 years of manufacture. The tyre should then be removed after a total of 10 years. Avon recommend tyres should be used within 5 years of manufacture. The tyre should then be removed after a total of 7 years.

Just letting you know the score since I posted the eBay tyre info on here, ...I suppose that you pays yer money and takes yer choice!

 

[Mr Bean]

I thing im going to order a pair of road 5 trail tyres as they seem to be good on road and as I say im never going to take this off road
found them for £245 So that will do unless anyone knows where I can ger them cheaper

Rob

FWR were the best value when I last looked for tyres - £245 sounds cheap. Is that fitted?

https://www.fwr.co.uk

 

[Adventure Boy]

No thats supplied only Ive got the gear to fit my own tyres luckly enough

Rob

 

[malcopopolo]

Marco...Tyre arrived today, I’m presuming that this is the date 2015, which seems to me to be old rubber?
Yes they are a bargain price, but not sure now if they are a bargain buy, comments lads, thinking of returning it?

Thnakyou
Thought they would be 5 years oldish. I strongly suspect they will be fine. Tyre manufacturers are just protecting themselves. Get them fitted this spring/summer and you will be ok.
I would not hesitate to use or fit them. £50 is a steal

 

[batman1]

Cheers Malco..thumb

 

[RallyeGS]

I asked M and P for the date of manufacture for the tyres on eBay. Their response:

Hi, I don't have that information sorry but they will be within the manufacturers shelf life of the tyre.

Regards
M&P Direct eBay Customer Services

I’m the type that won’t drink milk a day out of date, so probably not best placed to condone the use of ‘old rubber’. I would say though that given their importance in terms of handling, grip and braking, I would be buying ‘in date’ tyres. Why take the risk? God forbid you have an accident but I wonder what the insurance company’s take would be if they were picked up as part of the assessor’s checks - dunno, just food for thought.

 

[malcopopolo]

I asked M and P for the date of manufacture for the tyres on eBay. Their response:

Hi, I don't have that information sorry but they will be within the manufacturers shelf life of the tyre.

Regards
M&P Direct eBay Customer Services

I’m the type that won’t drink milk a day out of date, so probably not best placed to condone the use of ‘old rubber’. I would say though that given their importance in terms of handling, grip and braking, I would be buying ‘in date’ tyres. Why take the risk? God forbid you have an accident but I wonder what the insurance company’s take would be if they were picked up as part of the assessor’s checks - dunno, just food for thought.

We live in a world of litigation. Tyre manufacturers look at worse case scenarios, tyres fitted and left outside in all weathers. They have no control on how they are stored or what temps. You have more chance of stubbing your toe than these tyres failing due to age.

They also want you to buy the latest design and reduce the market for discount tyres.

Sleep easy

 

[bosnjo]

After 35 years of riding and collecting info on tyres, I can only say that 2 years after manufacturing process, tyres start to have chemical reaction and their compound starts getting harder, transforming the rubber into plastic. But that doesn't mean you'll have "plastic" tyres after 2 years. No! It only means that the process has started and after 2 years the tyre is not 100% safe anymore. The degradation is very slow process and it's progressive, not linear. Having that in mind, I'd say that 2 years old tyre is 99% good, 3 years 95%, 4 years 85%, 5 years 70% etc... This is not scientific data. It's just my experience. I remember when tyres were sold without week/year on them. As many customers were fooled thinking they were buying "new" tyres, laws have changed and now week/year code has to be stamped on them.
I wouldn't mind buying 2 or 3 years old "new" tyre but only if I my intention was to use it until it gets to 4 years of total age. After that, that tyre is finished for me. This is more critical on motorcycle then on car. I may crash and not hurt myself but the damage on the bike can be expensive, can't it? That is why I don't want to save few quids on tyres or brakes. They have to be in top condition for me.
So, this is just my opinion formed after more then 3 decades of riding and owning over 20 bikes.

 

[malcopopolo]

After 35 years of riding and collecting info on tyres, I can only say that 2 years after manufacturing process, tyres start to have chemical reaction and their compound starts getting harder, transforming the rubber into plastic. But that doesn't mean you'll have "plastic" tyres after 2 years. No! It only means that the process has started and after 2 years the tyre is not 100% safe anymore. The degradation is very slow process and it's progressive, not linear. Having that in mind, I'd say that 2 years old tyre is 99% good, 3 years 95%, 4 years 85%, 5 years 70% etc... This is not scientific data. It's just my experience. I remember when tyres were sold without week/year on them. As many customers were fooled thinking they were buying "new" tyres, laws have changed and now week/year code has to be stamped on them.
I wouldn't mind buying 2 or 3 years old "new" tyre but only if I my intention was to use it until it gets to 4 years of total age. After that, that tyre is finished for me. This is more critical on motorcycle then on car. I may crash and not hurt myself but the damage on the bike can be expensive, can't it? That is why I don't want to save few quids on tyres or brakes. They have to be in top condition for me.
So, this is just my opinion formed after more then 3 decades of riding and owning over 20 bikes.

And how many instances have crashes been down to 6 year old tyres? Why is it not a MOT failure or advisory? Why do dealers sell motorbikes 6, 7, 8 years old with 3k on the clock with original tyres. It is because the risks as so minimal.

 

[malcopopolo]

How many of us wear helmets older then 5 years...
Litigation! Manufacturers also recommend brake fluid is changed every 2 years in motorcycles and cars.
Fleet companies that lease or run thousands of cars do not have the brake fluid changed every 2 years.
Recommended on is not the same as being a legal requirement but as stated earlier the manufacturer often has no control on storage etc so selects the safest shortest time they could get away with.

If tyres were £20 each they would recommend they are changed on a yearly basis.

 

[RallyeGS]

You pays your money and takes your chances I suppose. Each to their own and all that. Makes me chuckle though when folk spend a fortune on tank pads, comfy seats, bright LED lights and other farkles, yet scrimp on one of the most important safety aspects on a bike.

 

[stick]

You pays your money and takes your chances I suppose. Each to their own and all that. Makes me chuckle though when folk spend a fortune on tank pads, comfy seats, bright LED lights and other farkles, yet scrimp on one of the most important safety aspects on a bike.

You Sir have hit the nail on the head with that post , well done . I would rather not ride than use dated , old design tyres for the sake of saving money on an out of date set . I use up to 3 to 4 sets a year and the cost does not ever worry me as the most important thing on a bike along with brake pads .
It does worry me that some skate on thin ice trying to get the most out of consumable items and at reduced costs . Cheap for a reason .

 

[BDG]

You Sir have hit the nail on the head with that post , well done . I would rather not ride than use dated , old design tyres for the sake of saving money on an out of date set . I use up to 3 to 4 sets a year and the cost does not ever worry me as the most important thing on a bike along with brake pads .
It does worry me that some skate on thin ice trying to get the most out of consumable items and at reduced costs . Cheap for a reason .

I’m with you and RallyeGS on this. False economy buying old tyres for road or otherwise.
Same with race tyres that have been through enough heat cycles or old knobblies that have sat around for a few tyres. I’ve taken part worn road tyres and dirt tyres off before a big trip and put them on the shelf for just in case in the future. I put some part worn Adventure tyres back on once for a shorter trip that had sat around for a while and regretted it.

 

[Boxerlust]

It is good to see when magazines sometimes get it right as RIDER excactly second' what I said about the PST2 and CTA3 And Batman you obviously must not value your life too much if you put on a tire from a secont tier tire manufacturer like Avon that is 6 years old... Any tire no matter how many miles should be replaced if it is 5 years old or older...To sell them as new is criminal !