ktmmark
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Got my compressor from nippy normans fits under the 1200 gs seat
ULTRASEAL TYRE OUTFIT
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(RIP) petcul
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Got my compressor from nippy normans fits under the 1200 gs seat
Does the compressor work with the 1200GS battery? Reason I ask is that I bought one from Touratech. Worked fine until it was attached to the tyre then would not work.
Defeats the point of having it. Sent it back to TT who tested it and had the same problem. Seems the battery is not up to it. Would also prefer the solution of using Slime or Ultraseal after a puncture. Never had a vibration problem with Ultraseal over the years but did have a puncture last year so am not confident any more.
.............Never had a vibration problem with Ultraseal over the years but did have a puncture last year so am not confident any more.
I too have had two punctures that Ultraseal initially failed to fix - rotating the puncture site to the bottom and some vigorous bashing of the sidewall with a stone seemed to move the U/S into position -
both tyres went on to do several thousand miles more without further attentionInterestingly, I've just been having an email conversation with Ultraseal.
I'm off on a tour soon, so about to get new tyres, and having had it before, I was contemplating using ultraseal again.
I'd heard a rumour, that if it was fitted, then you couldn't use the normal tyre plug type repair kits as the adhesive wouldn't work. I checked this with ultraseal, and they claim that there is no reported issues of ultraseal affecting the adhesive, so if ultraseal doesn't fix the tyre, then you may be able to use the normal plug kits. (I am happy for anyone here with experience to comment on this)
As far as vibration is concerned, when it was in the tyres, I had no issues. The bike seemed to handle the same after, as it had before.
Cheers
Dave#...
I'm off on a tour soon, so about to get new tyres, and having had it before, I was contemplating using ultraseal again.
I'd heard a rumour, that if it was fitted, then you couldn't use the normal tyre plug type repair kits as the adhesive wouldn't work. I checked this with ultraseal, and they claim that there is no reported issues of ultraseal affecting the adhesive, so if ultraseal doesn't fix the tyre, then you may be able to use the normal plug kits. (I am happy for anyone here with experience to comment on this)
As far as vibration is concerned, when it was in the tyres, I had no issues. The bike seemed to handle the same after, as it had before.
Cheers
Dave#...
ampthill
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Ultraseal? Terrible stuff. Only used it once, many years ago I have to say, and never again.
Got a nail in the tyre filled with the stuff which I took to have a permanent repair. However as it had this stuff in the tyre they couldn't repair it, despite it being almost new. Something about the internal patch would not stick permanently to the rubber - ended up having to ditch the tyre and fork out for a new one. Rather contradicts the Ultraseal account above
Since then have used the tyre plug repair kits on 3 occaissions over the past few years - as used to come with all new BMWs, but not now
- work a treat and allow you to get to a garage for a permanent repair. FYI these are also used as a temporary repair by hte RAC if you call them out for a bike puncture.Peter
Ultraseal? Terrible stuff. Only used it once, many years ago I have to say, and never again.
Got a nail in the tyre filled with the stuff which I took to have a permanent repair. However as it had this stuff in the tyre they couldn't repair it, despite it being almost new. Something about the internal patch would not stick permanently to the rubber - ended up having to ditch the tyre and fork out for a new one. Rather contradicts the Ultraseal account above
Peter
You were shafted by an ignorant or crooked tyre fitter. Ultraseal is water soluble and can be hosed or even wiped out with a paper towel and an ordinary repair immediately made after sanding down the site as per normal
Obviously many tyre fitters will sing a simlilar story to avoid losing the sale of a new tyre - I'm surprised you were taken in so easily
Have used ultra seal in all the bikes for many years. No punctures, except one at 80 miles into the ownership of my Gs1200. Took the long way home from picking it up and got a puncture before fitting the ultraseal! I missed a trick by not filling it with ultraseal and then trying to seal the tyre after the event. No problems at all with vibritation. Have had the sportsbikes up to 150 mph plus in Germany with no problems.
I wonder if anyone has done a trial with overfilling a tyre to see what effect it has,as this is an oft quoted possible cause for the vibration problem.
I wonder if anyone has done a trial with overfilling a tyre to see what effect it has,as this is an oft quoted possible cause for the vibration problem.
So should he belive you? And if so, why?
I have had two bike and one car tyre patched, one by Kwikfit and one at a Norwegian garage whose owner was a moto afficionado and rebuilder
ktmmark
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[]Does the compressor work with the 1200GS battery? Reason I ask is that I bought one from Touratech. Worked fine until it was attached to the tyre then would not work. Defeats the point of having it. Sent it back to TT who tested it and had the same problem. Seems the battery is not up to it.
Worked ok in holland when we adjusted the tyre pressures
Defeats the point of having it. Sent it back to TT who tested it and had the same problem. Seems the battery is not up to it. Worked ok in holland when we adjusted the tyre pressures
fuddy
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Interestingly I have never had a puncture that I have known about either (is this good or bad?) so I have ordered another bottle from Ultraseal Kent at 17.50 + free P&P (go direct to their website, its £18.50 from the same person on ebay???????)
basterd i just paid £23
basterd i just paid £23
PETELU
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"WOW"THAT QUESTION BROUGHT A LOT OF ANSWERS THANKS A LOT TO YOU ALL CONSENSUS SEEMS THAT ULTRA SEAL IS OK EITHER WAY ALREADY IN OR PUT IN AFTER A PUNCTURE SEEMS A VISIT TO HALFORDS AND READ THE DIRECTION ON THE CONTAINERS THANKS AGAIN FOLKS..
MarkiMark
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Here's my 2 pennies' worth, I have just put in Ultraseal after having had a puncture with a brand new ADV after just 600 miles. I do think it is actually effecting the handling as there seems to be a lot more vibrations after I put in the stuff. It was done by a BMW dealer so I don't think a user error is to blame. The bike just feels less grounded. Before it felt like the bike was running on rails, now the front end seems a lot lighter and the bike feels a lot less stable at high speeds. Or am i just imagining this?
If the handling is really effected, I am now wondering if I can I get the stuff taken out again or whether I need to throw away the tyres...
If the handling is really effected, I am now wondering if I can I get the stuff taken out again or whether I need to throw away the tyres...
Another vote for Ultraseal, having also used it for years in both bikes and cars (and even caravans). To understand why some people get vibration, you have to think about how it works.
It's a thick gloopy liquid which evenly coats the inside of the tyre after a small amount of running. If you have too little to coat the tyre, you'll effect the balance and get vibration. If you have too much, you'll have some sloshing around in the tyre and effect the balance. And most people I know who have had issues will eventually admit, albeit reluctantly, that they put in a bit extra "just in case".
As said elsewhere, Ultraseal is water soluable, so holes can be cleaned and patched using normal methods. You can't properly use a Stop 'n' Go or similar plugger as there will still be residue inside the tyre until you take it off the wheel and wash it. You can't balance a wheel correctly after filling it, as tyre balancers don't spin fast enough to distribute the stuff properly.
I for one have never noticed that a bike's handling changes significantly with it fitted, any more than handling changes from a worn-but-legal tyre to a recently scrubbed-in tyre (unless a corner dodger wore out the first tyre).
That said, there are still some people who just don't like it. But, sure, it be a bloody boring world if we all liked the same things, wouldn't it?
It's a thick gloopy liquid which evenly coats the inside of the tyre after a small amount of running. If you have too little to coat the tyre, you'll effect the balance and get vibration. If you have too much, you'll have some sloshing around in the tyre and effect the balance. And most people I know who have had issues will eventually admit, albeit reluctantly, that they put in a bit extra "just in case".
As said elsewhere, Ultraseal is water soluable, so holes can be cleaned and patched using normal methods. You can't properly use a Stop 'n' Go or similar plugger as there will still be residue inside the tyre until you take it off the wheel and wash it. You can't balance a wheel correctly after filling it, as tyre balancers don't spin fast enough to distribute the stuff properly.
I for one have never noticed that a bike's handling changes significantly with it fitted, any more than handling changes from a worn-but-legal tyre to a recently scrubbed-in tyre (unless a corner dodger wore out the first tyre).
That said, there are still some people who just don't like it. But, sure, it be a bloody boring world if we all liked the same things, wouldn't it?
Thats an interesting point, and one that I had not thought about. I aways carry a Stop 'n' Go kit, am I am having new tyres fitted today and I have asked them to fit Ultraseal to both as a matter of course.
After reading this then I might just need to have a rethink now......Ultraseal or carry the Stop 'n' Go kit.....hmmmmmmmmmmmm
Thats an interesting point, and one that I had not thought about. I aways carry a Stop 'n' Go kit, am I am having new tyres fitted today and I have asked them to fit Ultraseal to both as a matter of course.
After reading this then I might just need to have a rethink now......Ultraseal or carry the Stop 'n' Go kit.....hmmmmmmmmmmmm
Tha was my point about my discussion with Ultraseal - they say you can use the other kit as well. Personally I would doubt it, but I am going to take the man at his word, and hope I never have to find out.
I would suggest that if anyone has any (negative) experience in this area, that we take it up with Ultraseal.
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