TheJoker
Registered user
Guys n gals,
A completely serious post from me for a change.
Let me tell me what happened to me. I had my bike in to my local (non-BMW) shop to fit a set of new tyres onto ye ole' tractah, and I was really pleased. Rode the bike back quietly in the rain (new tyres + rain = slow). Parked the bike in the garage, and left it there till Monday morning when I took her out to ride to work.
All happy and dandy I do a couple of aggressive overtakes, and the bike performs flawlessly... yieehaa... I come to a 40mph section and I, as usual, grab a big handful of braking to slow me down to 40... only to notice that the ABS kicks in quite a bit extra... maybe it's just the new tyres... no biggie.
I up the speed after the 40-are and again all well...
... UNTILL...
I approach the next roundabout - myself and all cars around me - are slowing down but I am NOT SLOWING DOWN the roundabout is approaching... the cars in front are getting too close... NO BRAKES - NO F%¤&%ING BRAKES!!! The bike just "glides" on ABS... I can feel a few small pulses of braking kicking in - NO WARNING LIGHTS ON THE DASH...
... somehow I manage to scrub off enough speed and slot in between a few cars to make the roundabout. *pheeww*
I stop at the next safe place and do a quick inspection - I can't see any hoses broke, no fluid nothing..
I continue my journey carefully
A few miles later I get the same lack of braking power, luckily I was going slowly. Again I stop, this time for a more thorough inspection - and I find the problem.
It's a very simple problem. The thin ABS sensor cable for the front wheel has been positioned so that it has touched the brake disk and thus the brake disk has eaten through the (ridiculously) thin plastic on the cable.
The Sherlock in me is quick to draw the conclusions:
- The disk has caused the computer to recieve "strange" signals from the sensor.
- Probably trying to save my *rse from a spill, the ABS "brain" has decided that my front wheel wasn't turning and thus released the braking pressure rendering my bike without any sort of brakes!!!
- The "brain" on my computer didn't figure this out in some 4 - 8 miles or so I rode without brakes.
- When the "brain" finally figured that the signals coming from the wheel is "out of bounds" - it turned the ABS system off and flashed the "Brake Failure" warning light. - Way too late IMO!
Now, before you all start loading up your shotguns, fetch your tar-n-feathers, let's reflect why this happened.
- My garage is not a BMW garage, but they've serviced thousands and thousands of bikes - my GSX-R1000 previously - these guys aren't novices. They've seen bikes and they've changed tyres before. But the obviously refit the ABS cable in the wrong place
- BMW has made a braking system that relies heavily on one little thin cable and a single sensor. Not only that, the cable does not come with any warning texts, no protection, no clips at the crucial locations, etc.
In my opinion these two points have to happen together for this incident to occurr. And while I reckon that my garage could have made a bit of effort dealing with the refitting, I reckon the bigges problem here is the design by BMW. On cars you have 4 sensors and 4 wheels, on bikes 2 sensors and two wheels. On a car the other sides wheels act as a back-up for the system. On a bike you don't have a back-up wheel. Despite this BMW hasn't installed any form of assurance that the signals coming from the sensor (or my brake disk) are 100% accurate.
Nor have they installed any sort of shielding or protection for this simple cable, especially dangerous on a bike that's intended to spend time off-road.
Bad design IMO.
I hope this little "scare" story has brought this to your attention. I'm sure that this issue will never be a problem for more than 99% of all 1200 riders, but I do wish for all of you to check which way your cable has been routed. And when you take your bike to your non-BMW garage, please show them the attached PDF with pictures of how the cable should be fitted (and how it should not be fitted). Please find attached PDF and redistribute it as necessary. Thank you!
For what it's worth, I've spoken to my non-BMW garage and they, without any hesitation, agreed to replace the cable (ca £50 + ca £50 for labour) at my BMW garage. No fuss, no problems. I will continue to use them.
Happy Riding!
A completely serious post from me for a change.
Let me tell me what happened to me. I had my bike in to my local (non-BMW) shop to fit a set of new tyres onto ye ole' tractah, and I was really pleased. Rode the bike back quietly in the rain (new tyres + rain = slow). Parked the bike in the garage, and left it there till Monday morning when I took her out to ride to work.
All happy and dandy I do a couple of aggressive overtakes, and the bike performs flawlessly... yieehaa... I come to a 40mph section and I, as usual, grab a big handful of braking to slow me down to 40... only to notice that the ABS kicks in quite a bit extra... maybe it's just the new tyres... no biggie.
I up the speed after the 40-are and again all well...
... UNTILL...
I approach the next roundabout - myself and all cars around me - are slowing down but I am NOT SLOWING DOWN the roundabout is approaching... the cars in front are getting too close... NO BRAKES - NO F%¤&%ING BRAKES!!! The bike just "glides" on ABS... I can feel a few small pulses of braking kicking in - NO WARNING LIGHTS ON THE DASH...
... somehow I manage to scrub off enough speed and slot in between a few cars to make the roundabout. *pheeww*
I stop at the next safe place and do a quick inspection - I can't see any hoses broke, no fluid nothing..
I continue my journey carefully
A few miles later I get the same lack of braking power, luckily I was going slowly. Again I stop, this time for a more thorough inspection - and I find the problem.
It's a very simple problem. The thin ABS sensor cable for the front wheel has been positioned so that it has touched the brake disk and thus the brake disk has eaten through the (ridiculously) thin plastic on the cable.
The Sherlock in me is quick to draw the conclusions:
- The disk has caused the computer to recieve "strange" signals from the sensor.
- Probably trying to save my *rse from a spill, the ABS "brain" has decided that my front wheel wasn't turning and thus released the braking pressure rendering my bike without any sort of brakes!!!
- The "brain" on my computer didn't figure this out in some 4 - 8 miles or so I rode without brakes.
- When the "brain" finally figured that the signals coming from the wheel is "out of bounds" - it turned the ABS system off and flashed the "Brake Failure" warning light. - Way too late IMO!
Now, before you all start loading up your shotguns, fetch your tar-n-feathers, let's reflect why this happened.
- My garage is not a BMW garage, but they've serviced thousands and thousands of bikes - my GSX-R1000 previously - these guys aren't novices. They've seen bikes and they've changed tyres before. But the obviously refit the ABS cable in the wrong place
- BMW has made a braking system that relies heavily on one little thin cable and a single sensor. Not only that, the cable does not come with any warning texts, no protection, no clips at the crucial locations, etc.
In my opinion these two points have to happen together for this incident to occurr. And while I reckon that my garage could have made a bit of effort dealing with the refitting, I reckon the bigges problem here is the design by BMW. On cars you have 4 sensors and 4 wheels, on bikes 2 sensors and two wheels. On a car the other sides wheels act as a back-up for the system. On a bike you don't have a back-up wheel. Despite this BMW hasn't installed any form of assurance that the signals coming from the sensor (or my brake disk) are 100% accurate.
Nor have they installed any sort of shielding or protection for this simple cable, especially dangerous on a bike that's intended to spend time off-road.
Bad design IMO.
I hope this little "scare" story has brought this to your attention. I'm sure that this issue will never be a problem for more than 99% of all 1200 riders, but I do wish for all of you to check which way your cable has been routed. And when you take your bike to your non-BMW garage, please show them the attached PDF with pictures of how the cable should be fitted (and how it should not be fitted). Please find attached PDF and redistribute it as necessary. Thank you!
For what it's worth, I've spoken to my non-BMW garage and they, without any hesitation, agreed to replace the cable (ca £50 + ca £50 for labour) at my BMW garage. No fuss, no problems. I will continue to use them.
Happy Riding!


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