Very true, next time you are at a bike meet have a quick look at what you could remove very quickly without any tools, enough to piss any owner off and perhaps disable the bike. Oil filler cap comes to mind. How many sat nav mounts are properly secured? Think too much about it and you would probably never leave your P&J in a public place.
Warning - Stolen Clocks (Again)
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Very true, next time you are at a bike meet have a quick look at what you could remove very quickly without any tools, enough to piss any owner off and perhaps disable the bike. Oil filler cap comes to mind. How many sat nav mounts are properly secured? Think too much about it and you would probably never leave your P&J in a public place.
JimVonBaden
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If people want the clocks off these bikes, they'll get them, no matter how they are secured. The general public take no notice, so whether it takes 5 seconds or 5 minutes, is irrelevant.
If they were secured better, people would start moaning that their headstocks have been damaged during the thefts, and BMW should be ashamed.
People would complain if they were hung with a new rope! It is just the way of things, and BMW people bitch more than most!
Jim
patzx12
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An alternative solution to the expensive clock surround bracket.
Take one Torx T10 head screw, approx 3mm dia thread, 25mm long
Take one Domed Mirror screw cap, drill a 2.5mm hole in it.
Screw into cap.
Drill (carefully!) a 2.5mm hole in the centre of the post on the back of the clocks where the Circlip goes.
Leave the circlip with the open end upwards and screw the cap assembly into the hole.
It is now impossible to remove the circlip without removing the screen and the air deflector and removing the screw first.
Certainly more than a minute to do.
Where did these bolts come from? I can't find anything like that in 3mm?
Grim Reaper
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I have a collection of torx headed screws and bolts in the garage that I've collected over the years from all manner of things ( screws like this are usually holding electrical items together)
I did find These but can't vouch for the measurement.
I'd expect a no.3 or no.4 screw not a 3mm screw, I don't know if the 3mm is to the edge of the threads or the centre shaft .
Another possibility here though you'd need to buy 200
I did find These but can't vouch for the measurement.
I'd expect a no.3 or no.4 screw not a 3mm screw, I don't know if the 3mm is to the edge of the threads or the centre shaft .
Another possibility here though you'd need to buy 200
patzx12
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The LC locking satnav bracket is the daftest thing on the bike. It offers no protection against theft.
Just grab the exposed RH half of the unit and pull it off.
Also you have to attach it and lock it on with the key, I would think the designers would allow it to click on to a locked bracket and the key only being required to remove.
I suspect Garmin were unwilling to produce a modified satnav housing for BMW with proper lugs that could be used to lock it down.
When i get a chance i will CNC up a aluminum satnav bracket.
Just grab the exposed RH half of the unit and pull it off.
Also you have to attach it and lock it on with the key, I would think the designers would allow it to click on to a locked bracket and the key only being required to remove.
I suspect Garmin were unwilling to produce a modified satnav housing for BMW with proper lugs that could be used to lock it down.
When i get a chance i will CNC up a aluminum satnav bracket.
Looking forward to seeing it.
Good luck!
BB
patzx12
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I like my satnav on the bike all the time the Navigator V is a fantastic piece of kit and part of the bikes info system.
bonnylad
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What about replacing the rubbish circlip with a properly engineered one which needs circlip pliers to get it off?
A mate of mine was sick of his car radio being lifted every time he replace it so he araldited fish hooks round the back where the scroat had to reach round to unscrew the mounting. One morning he found a bloody mess in the footwell but his radio was never touched again.
A mate of mine was sick of his car radio being lifted every time he replace it so he araldited fish hooks round the back where the scroat had to reach round to unscrew the mounting. One morning he found a bloody mess in the footwell but his radio was never touched again.
Y7, A very simple and elegant solution... well done mate!
Brilliant, lucky though that the scrote didn't go to the police. I'm sure that your friend would have been prosecuted for something.
Grim Reaper
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Godzilla
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I noticed that GR lol.
Sooty09
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I have made an alternative clock circlip guard.
Prototype 1 (Which means it will probably be like this for the life of the bike)
Its made out of an old BMW indicator stalk cut and filed to shape. It dose not look as rough on the bike???. Be careful under the alloy bracket, cables run close under. I have a dome head nut so no sharp edges.
If you do nothing at all for security at least rotate the circlip so the tab is at the bottom, it cannot then be removed by a finger.
Prototype 1 (Which means it will probably be like this for the life of the bike)
Its made out of an old BMW indicator stalk cut and filed to shape. It dose not look as rough on the bike???. Be careful under the alloy bracket, cables run close under. I have a dome head nut so no sharp edges.
If you do nothing at all for security at least rotate the circlip so the tab is at the bottom, it cannot then be removed by a finger.
If all the parts on new bikes have been coded with Datatag, does this not make them less desirable to thieving scumbags because they're traceable?
Not really. Datatag is a bit of a white elephant to be honest. It's good at actually identifying something as being nicked, but it doesn't really stop it getting nicked in the first place.
The time it comes into it's own is when say the cops say do a warrant on a lock up that's suspected of being used to break / clone .. stolen bikes. Then, they can specifically identify nicked frames, wheels, seats etc. But the risk of that happening is not high enough to the bike thief to think 'whoaaaa ... that's data tagged ... I aint touching that ... '
Sooty09
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Not really, I'm off to Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria for a few weeks. Some will have seen GS clocks on E bay for £500+, sod any dots or DNA , once sold overseas who will prosecute them.
Godzilla
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I may be having a serious blonde moment, but I don't understand why there is such a big market for stolen clocks.
Easy , sell them back to the poor sod thats had them nicked.
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