Mad_Accountant
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Buy a BMW C1 - get to work safe, dry, smiling and emitting at 66 gms
(I also have an r100r and an Adventure)
(I also have an r100r and an Adventure)
What are the CO2 emissions for a 1200 GS?
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I know its what governments want, IE to reduce emissions.
But now we have to pay to go to work. The dole looks even more attractive now. Just got to think of a way to get on that gravy train.
You know work all your life and pay taxes. When you get old pay £4000 per month for an old peoples home and those scroungers that have never worked get it all for free. Welcome to fair Britain. The land of paying taxes to support the feckless and workshy.
Doesn't help you with your problem. Is it safe to park your bike outside work somewhere? And therefore pay no tax.
But now we have to pay to go to work. The dole looks even more attractive now. Just got to think of a way to get on that gravy train.
You know work all your life and pay taxes. When you get old pay £4000 per month for an old peoples home and those scroungers that have never worked get it all for free. Welcome to fair Britain. The land of paying taxes to support the feckless and workshy.
Doesn't help you with your problem. Is it safe to park your bike outside work somewhere? And therefore pay no tax.
jpooch00
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In the US, the CO for a 2012 is 1.1 and the standard is 12, so it's very low.
It is indeed a sad day and/or a sad employer if we have to pay to park at work. I also see special parking spaces for multi occupancy vehicles and "storks". I'm OK with that. And still a few bike spaces though I don't have the opportunity.
As a matter of interest, what does the employer do with cash he raises?
The money raised from increased charging is to pay for the maintenance of the car parking facilities which, apparently, have been running at a loss. But I get the feeling that there’s also a green agenda because car sharing is being encouraged and they’ll even help plan your journey on public transport which for me would be 90minutes by bus (or 17 minutes on the bike!).
I’ve got no option other than to park at work but I think I’ve found a chink in their armour because my employer is having to seek advice on my challenge. If they really are using cc to estimate CO2 emissions for bikes because no published data exists, that’s not accurate and would be unfair.
In the meantime, I’ve already quoted the website that gives emissions for the 1200 GS as 99.8g/km (http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/bmw_r_1200_gs_2012.php) which is ideal because parking is free if the emissions are below 100g/km. But, just in-case other members of the forum end up in a similar predicament, if anyone has any official looking data for the bike's emissions, please post the link so we can use it in our defence.
I’ve got no option other than to park at work but I think I’ve found a chink in their armour because my employer is having to seek advice on my challenge. If they really are using cc to estimate CO2 emissions for bikes because no published data exists, that’s not accurate and would be unfair.
In the meantime, I’ve already quoted the website that gives emissions for the 1200 GS as 99.8g/km (http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/bmw_r_1200_gs_2012.php) which is ideal because parking is free if the emissions are below 100g/km. But, just in-case other members of the forum end up in a similar predicament, if anyone has any official looking data for the bike's emissions, please post the link so we can use it in our defence.
You are already doing your bit for the environment by avoiding congestion through riding a motorcycle in a fuel-efficiet manner whilst others sit in traffic causing pollution and wasting fuel.
Tell them that, if they have a green agenda.
Tell them that, if they have a green agenda.
WindyChuffer
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I can just about understanding charging for parking at work, but it should be on a per space basis, just like any other car park.
Driving in and out and parking wears out the facilities. CO2 emissions don't.
What the fuck have CO2 emissions got to do with it? No councils charge for parking on this basis as it is quite simply, unreasonable.
WindyChuffer
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A 1200gs is not a fuel efficient means of transport. Some cars use less fuel!
itspilsbury
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I might be talking rubbish but just a thought. Would it be of assistance to go to your local garage and get them to do an emissions test and give you a printout (as they do on a car MOT)? What I'm thinking is you already have found some data that says the 1200GS is less than 100, if you could produce a printout from an emissions test that showed it was less than 100 wouldn't it strengthen the argument even more!
Now thats a good idea. Lets hope it supports the Data we already have.
Not for parking, maybe.
But they charge (quite heavily in London's case) for DRIVING vehicles with a higher CO2 output.
Give it time and they will apply the same basic provision to parking, too. Using the same 'smart' recognition or ANPR.
AberdeenAngus
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Pretty sure the emmissions test doesn't show CO2.
People (several million) who take public transport to work also pay, out of their net (after tax) wages.
Try telling a 17 year old bank clerk who has to commute by train into central
London from Southend that they are getting a good deal.
Oh, and if they take up driving in they will inevitably hit the Congestion Charge, of £8 a day with no doubt a parking fee to pay on top. If they bike in and park in Westminster, it's a pound a day.
Who is your employer and how much are they proposing to charge you?
Thats where I am coming from, at what stage does it become pointless to work. IE outgoings and the trouble don't make it worthwhile.
Try £10 a day, the fee went up ages ago.
I wasn't quoting MPG figures.
Even my "EcoDynamic" diesel will not be as fuel efficient as my GSA through the congested streets of London. Doing an average 5 mph by car from West Hill to and from Central London doesn't compare with an almost continuous ride up the A3, stopping only for traffic lights and pedestrians. If I could commute by bike I would, but I can't carry a car full of specialist tools on a GSA so I'm stuck with a crawl each way to work and a daily £10 Boris Bicycle Tax in the zone, not to mention paying around £25 average to park for the day (all charged to the customer of course).
That's true.
WindyChuffer
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What the fuck has what you drive to and from work got to do with your employer? Absolutely fuck all. Charge per space sure. But not on emissions.
Btw - Richmond council used to charge for parking based on CO2 emissions but this was abolished a while ago.
