What I did to someone else's bike today

Enjoying this thread,keep it up:thumb2
it,s like having the pleasure of seeing my bike I ve just cleaned with out the pain:augie


How/what are you using to clean the castings etc?
 
There's three things I've learnt from following this magnificent thread...

  1. The previous owner of this bike looked after this bike no better than I look after mine, they just never used it.
  2. MikeP actually has a library of 'K' photos and is posting them in sequence whilst actually out ragging the arse of this bike and will leave no a scrap of evidence to that effect.
  3. If I was a cherisher and polisher (phat chance of that) I'd never let Mike near my pride and joy as he would cruelly expose everything I thought I'd looked after but not to his standards!

Great thread Mike, its destined I'm sure for an air bubble when its 'done' so keep spinning its wheels I reckon :D
 
How/what are you using to clean the castings etc?

A variety of brass-bristled wire brushes (brass because they're less aggressive than steel).

A slow speed drill (to maintain control of the brush).

A light oil as a surface lubricant to avoid heat build-up and to prevent scratching/scarring the cast surfaces (the only worthwhile use of WD40 I've yet found).

Then use more light oil and a rag to clean away the dirt as you go with a final wipe over before using a decent detergent to remove the oily film.

On bare aluminium the enemy is oil as it attracts grime and then encourages staining. So after the cleaning I always use a good quality polish, not a metal polish like Solvol but a decent wax polish that prevents grime from sticking in the first place. If you search, you can even find polishes that contain aluminium paste/pigment.

I polish every surface (including the stands) on my bikes and always have done. Partly to enhance the look but mainly to protect it. This cleaning won't last forever but decent regular washing and a re-application of a quality polish will mean that it won't need such a radical clean-up for many years.

The fact that this bike has been "protected" by something akin to ACF50 (possibly ACF50 itself) and has done less than 1,600 miles in twenty years, yet the casings, wheels and other parts still need so much effort to clean just reinforces my prejudice against such "wonder" treatments. They may work up to a point but they don't work as well as regular washing and polishing does.

Back in the 80's, BMW used to sell a clear wax that came in an aerosol can. The idea was that for winter protection you sprayed it onto components, warmed the bike-up and it melted slightly to spread a thin film of protective wax.

I bought some with my first R100GS. I vowed never to use it again having learned the hard way that it didn't work. All it did was add a layer of hard to get rid of crud that had to be dealt with before being able to get at the actual surfaces. :blast
 
A deserved No.1 spot

I see that in this weeks MCN, the K1 is at the No.1 spot of the 10 worst daring bike design list. I quote,

"Perhaps it was an angry reaction to taunts over BMW's unbelievably dull bikes of the 1980's.
Perhaps a designer, pushed over the edge thought: "You want exciting ? I'll give you exciting" but in his rage could only lay hands on red and yellow Lego bricks.
Or perhaps it was a sketch of a motorcycle for Bertie Bassett which got mis-addressed. The K1 was gratuitously daring. Like a flasher".

Can't say I disagree. :D


Keep up the good work tho'. I can appreciate the effort being put in. :thumb2
 
MCN opinion is rated on a level with that of a Versey owner - worthless. :P
 
I believe we still live in a free country with free speech, at least we did the last time I looked. :ronno
Last time I looked, no-one is impinging your freedom of speech here. :nenau

I get it Davey. I got it the first time you pointed out that you don't think much of the K1 and I recognise your absolute right to that opinion and to express it, here and elsewhere.

In exchange for acknowledging your right to express that opinion, I'd have hoped that you'd reciprocate. Shit. You can fill this thread with your dislike if you choose but you shouldn't be surprised if I counter it with my own.
 
Last time I looked, no-one is impinging your freedom of speech here. :nenau

I get it Davey. I got it the first time you pointed out that you don't think much of the K1 and I recognise your absolute right to that opinion and to express it, here and elsewhere.

In exchange for acknowledging your right to express that opinion, I'd have hoped that you'd reciprocate. Shit. You can fill this thread with your dislike if you choose but you shouldn't be surprised if I counter it with my own.


I'm just having a little fun, give some, take some, but being called worthless because of what I ride is stooping pretty low. Are you related to civil ? :D

However, you're entitled to your opinion too.

Keep up the good work, I'm sure the owner will be very happy.
 
I didn't say you are worthless Davey, just your opinion about the K1.
 
:topicstop all this bitching and let the man get on with the job.:topic

Please work harder and get the next installment up for us:hug
 
:topicstop all this bitching and let the man get on with the job.:topic

Please work harder and get the next installment up for us:hug
I am working on the bike but I'm also in a stroppy sulk. :thedummy

You will just have to wait and see if I get over it. :tears
 
I am working on the bike but I'm also in a stroppy sulk. :thedummy

You will just have to wait and see if I get over it. :tears

Well if You need a change a scenary there is a G/S over here on the bench that needs finishing/putting back together along with all the coffee/tea You can drink :D
 
Thanks but North Devon savages scare me too much. :D

Made a start on the mucky process of cleaning the gearbox casing:

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I stripped this:

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Cleaned and rubbed down the main stand, then put the first coat of paint on:

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While that's drying, I got on with some other stuff.

The side stand and mounting frame just needed a good clean. The bushes, screws, springs and grease nipples stripped out:

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Cleaned the old Loctite from the screws, the old grease from the bushes and cleaned/polished the springs. The side stand reassembled:

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I've just put another coat of paint on the main stand.

Tomorrow I have some parts to collect and to arrange the re-spray of the damaged panels.

All through the past couple of days, I've been struggling with the realisation that I've put my mate onto what's probably one of the best red & yellow livery K1s around and the deal is done. I've never experienced such mixed feelings in my life. On the one hand I'm pleased for my mate and yet I hate the sod with a passion. If only I could have sold a kidney. :D
 
well if he is good and kind like coolcarbon you will get to play with it at some point im sure :beerjug::D:D
 
What? It might get dirty. Wash your mouth out Chad :rolleyes:

So, for the past day and a bit, still at it at 0130 this morning and again first thing, I've been trying to free the clutch cover:

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One dowel pin on the cover is being recalcitrant. After some blood (really), toil, sweat and tears (:tears) and with much, as Arkwright would have said to G-G-Granville, je-je-jiggling, it is starting to come free.

In between je-je-jiggling, I've re-sprayed the radiator mesh grille:

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Re-assembled the stands including the side-stand switch (which appears to be a rear brake switch and an elongated tang that is squeezed by the now redundant, older K-Series side-stand retractor-arm).

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The new and old lower right-hand fairing bracket shows just how bent the older one is:

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A comparison between the old and new exhaust header-to-cylinder head rings:

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I've no doubt that others just re-use the old ones. Had it been my bike I might have been tempted to do so and accept a partial strip down later if they didn't seal properly. At £1.50 each, it just doesn't seem worth it though (and it's not my money :D).

I'm girding my loins, fortifying my frame with another strong espresso and a feg before doing some more je-je-jiggling.



Edit: Bloody hell. Nearly jumped out of my skin when the postie beat on the door. :eek

He's just delivered my new UE monitors (Cheers Andy :thumb2). I may alter my plan and go out on the "Turd" to test them as the weather is so nice (but is forecast to change for the worse very soon).
 
Been a bit distracted for the past few days so apologies to the owner and my loyal reader. :D

I did manage to drop off all the panels that need repairs and re-painting at the place they are to be restored to better than new yesterday first thing. The two new twin pinstripes were also delivered as they are applied before the final lacquer. The timescale is about two weeks as I need to finish the rest of the bike so as to avoid having the panels laying about in danger of getting damaged.

Anyway, before the milkman had even left my pints of full-jism on the doorstep, I was back down in the garage je-je-jiggling the recalcitrant clutch cover.

In between bouts of jiggling and to maintain an even temper, I found other little things to sort out.

The rear seat-cover (hump thingy) has a plastic bracket lined with rubber that locates the hump on the passenger grab-rail. The rubber had become detached at some stage early in the life of the bike and a previous owner had just taped it to the grab-rail.

After scraping away the old adhesive on both parts;

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I cleaned both with meths and then gave them a squirt of new glue:

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Before encouragement to bond was applied:

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Back to the clutch cover and after another hour of repetitive jiggling and cursing, the bloody thing finally gave-in to my ministrations:

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:JB

So now the clutch carrier is exposed:

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I can undo that retaining nut, remove it and the spacer:

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To expose the next awkward little sod of a job, getting at and removing the O-Ring on the output shaft that's buried inside the clutch carrier:

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Haynes says to pick it out and helpfully shows the O-Ring being very nice and co-operative by apparently leaping onto the proffered jewellers screwdriver of its own volition. The BMW manual says to cut it out.

Having learned from my K75 journey of discovery and after a panic-stricken call to the god-of-all-things-BMW-bikes, I found that the output shaft, once freed from the clutch-carrier retaining nut, has an alarming (if you didn't know it was designed that way) amount of end-play.

After being reassured by Neil "that sounds about right" :thumb2, I carried on with the K75 O-Ring change by using this end-play to my advantage (if you are going to do a similar job, this may help as it isn't mentioned in the 'helpful' manuals):

By pulling the clutch-carrier away from the output-shaft, the O-Ring comes with it up the shaft a little. Now because the O-Ring's job is as an oil seal, things are a bit slippery and when you push the clutch-carrier back towards the engine it may take the O-Ring back down the "pipe". Persevere and you should be rewarded by it sticking at the top of the shaft near the threaded section - eventually. :rolleyes:

Forget cutting it, there isn't enough room really and forget popping it out with a jewellers screwdriver because the shaft of the screwdriver doesn't flex. Either use a craft knife with a flexible blade or an old feeler gauge (from the thicker end of the assorted blades) and gently prise the O-Ring out enough to get something more robust hooked under it.

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I'll bet a pound to a pinch of shit that it will slip back before you can get to this stage:

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Many times too. ;)

Don't lose heart, just swear a great deal, kick something (preferably inanimate as kicking the cat, dog or wife and kids is still frowned upon among the unenlightened who have never attempted to remove one of these O-Rings) and gird your loins for another stoical attempt. It's what chaps do.

You will be rewarded (eventually) with a pile of redundant bits (seen here with the new bits and the tools I find work for me plus some that don't):

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Now it's off with the clutch-carrier:

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And have a butchers at the output-shaft seal:

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That small amount of engine oil on the bottom of the seal came from the splines of the clutch-carrier as I yanked it off. You can have a butchers at the clutch-carrier splines if you're interested at this point:

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Then with the bell-housing cleaned and the clutch-carrier cleaned, I popped it back and slipped the new O-Ring over the shaft:

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Before chucking them away, I used the old spacer and lock nut to seat the O-Ring:

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With them whipped off and before using the new ones, I had a peer at the O-Ring to make certain that its nice and snug in its new home.

Right that's the state of play so far today. I stopped for a coffee and to check the torque setting of the lock nut so thought I'd update this before getting back down to it.

Oh yes, it's 140 Nm plus or minus 5 Nm, slacken off and re-torque to 100 Nm (for this model, others vary so check if you are doing the job yourself).
 
After cleaning up the parts, the clutch is reassembled, centred and the cover screws torqued-up

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Right. Back to cleaning the gearbox casing then the back-end can start to be put back together.
 
Finished cleaning the gearbox casing and whacked it back on:

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Re-fitted the stands:

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And the forward exhaust heat-shield (as the rear mounting uses one of the gearbox mounting bolts):

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