What oil in the shaft drive

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Does anyone know what oil is in the shaft drive on a GSA LC, cannot find it listed in the owners manual.
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Syntrax 75w-90

I'm sure it's listed in the rear of the manual ! Piddy's sell it £17:95 a bottle, 2 washers to replace for the bungs, i reused them on my wc, but just replaced these on another bike when I did a diff oil change today.
 
Anyone know where you can get an empty squeezy bottle (180ml) and pipe to fill the final drive from?
Less mess and you're certain you put the right amount in
 
Anyone know where you can get an empty squeezy bottle (180ml) and pipe to fill the final drive from?
Less mess and you're certain you put the right amount in

I bought a large syringe and tube from Amazon, I'm guessing Halfords or EuroCarParts would do the same.
 
SAF-XO vs. Syntrax.

Hi all!

Just so everyone's on the same page, Castrol SAF-XO and Castrol Syntrax Long-life 75W-90 are exactly the same fluid. There has been no change in fluid specification - only the name has changed.

It's a fully-synthetic 75W-90 GL-5 (i.e. extreme-pressure rating for hypoid bevel gearing) fluid. Basically the same stuff you'd get in the rear axle of a common-or-garden HGV - expect much, much higher-quality.
It needs to be that good to cope with the heat and pressure BMW Motorrad compact final drives are capable of handing out. You could use ordinary GL-5 fluid if you wanted to, but it would break down into sludge very quickly.

One other thing: I've known some BMW service desks (especially car service desks) to try and sell customers SAF-XJ when they can't find SAF-XO on their shelves. BEWARE! It is not the same thing - SAF-XJ is a 75W-140 oil designed for limited-slip differentials.
Very occcasionally, and depending which dealers you're in contact with, you might also run across SAF-XA. This is an 80W-140 oil, also designed for limited-slip differentials.
 
Does the Wasser have needle rollers in the Paralever bearings as on the hex heads?

If it does, they would benefit from being turned though a big angle to redistribute the grease. On the early hexheads and 1150s, This is done to change the oil. These bikes seem to suffer less with worn pivot bearings than later models with drain plugs in the FD.
 
Is this the same stuff?
Halfords 75W-90 Fully Synthetic Gear Oil 1L (GL4)

£10.99
(Unit price: £10.99 per litre)

Whats the diff between GL4 and GL5?

They also do Comma in GL5
OMMA SX75W90 GEAR OIL GL5 1L

The Comma SX75W90 GEAR OIL GL5 1L is suitable for modern five & six speed gear boxes and differentials and is recommended for applications requiring a 75W-90, 80W-90 or 85W-90 API GL-5. This is also suitable for any gearbox/hypoid rear axle where an EP GL4 oil is specified
 
I have a full 1 ltr bottle and one with about 800ml in of Castrol Syntrax left over from my TC days is anyone is local to collect in exchange for a few beer tokens :beerjug:
 
Is this the same stuff?
Halfords 75W-90 Fully Synthetic Gear Oil 1L (GL4)

£10.99
(Unit price: £10.99 per litre)

Whats the diff between GL4 and GL5?

They also do Comma in GL5
OMMA SX75W90 GEAR OIL GL5 1L

The Comma SX75W90 GEAR OIL GL5 1L is suitable for modern five & six speed gear boxes and differentials and is recommended for applications requiring a 75W-90, 80W-90 or 85W-90 API GL-5. This is also suitable for any gearbox/hypoid rear axle where an EP GL4 oil is specified

In a nutshell, No, it isn't.
If you use non-synthetic GL-5 fluids in any BMW final drive made from 2005 onward, you will eventually destroy the drive. The full-synth Castrol oils are higher spec because they contain additives that stop the oil breaking down too rapidly under heat and pressure.

GL-5 contains extreme-pressure additives for applications in which there is a much higher frictional loading on gears (like in hypoid final drives). They usually also contain reactive sulphur- and phosphorus-bearing compounds. These are designed to react with the iron in the gears under heat, forming very tough surface layers of iron sulphide and iron phosphide.

GL-4 fluids are designed for much lower loadings (like manual car transmissions) and do not have these additives. If anyone wants to use GL-4 oils in their BMW final drive, go ahead - but brace yourself. The results will not be pretty (or cheap).
 
Anyone know where you can get an empty squeezy bottle (180ml) and pipe to fill the final drive from?
Less mess and you're certain you put the right amount in

The best solution for me has usually been a large veterinary syringe (use the ones marked 'Latex-free' for best results) connected to a length of clear plastic hose. :thumb
 
Dr Rich, just try your local chemist and ask for a 200ml syringe. I buy them from my local chemist, as a mechanic they have many uses.
 
Anyone got or seen an idiot's guide to doing this on a hex head or preferably a cam head?
 


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