where= optimus nova?

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That's it really.
Having read tons I have decided this is the one to go for when camping and cooking on bike.
Where is the cheapest place to buy one from, anybody know?

cheers
 
eBay advice

just found above stove from a guy who must be some sort of dealer in the U.S on eBay.
His rating stands at 99% positive so would anyone recommend buying from the U.S?
The above stove seems to be £100 min here but with shipping I can have one for £68 ($125)
I have only ever sold a mobile ph. on eBay so my knowledge is very limited

cheers
 
If he's sold plenty of related equipment and the feedback is good then I'd b inclined to deal. See if he's prepared to send it as a gift and fib about the value thus saving you import duty. If he isn't import duty and handling charge may equate to the cost of a UK item.
 
Does this stove from the US include the fuel bottle, the case and the multi tool you get for your £100 in the UK?
But good choice of stove, I got one 2 years ago and it is fantastic.
 
...try Cotswold outdoor store ...they did have a deal going at £80 with a fuel bottle..

...you can sign up for a 10% discount card to..

Regards Charlie
 
duh!

Don't know about import duty, to be honest didn't give it a thought . Will send an email or maybe ask my american neighbour if his dad will send him one as a gift!

Did a search on cotswold outdoor and they don't seem to sell optimus. Maybe it was a clearence thing?

Thanks all
alan
 
Have you thopught of using the Optimus 8R model? In some countries and/or markets it's sold as the Optimus Hunter.

It packs smaller, weighs about 2 grams more and is in a more robust all steel container that means it can be packed far better in the panniers with almost anything alongside, on top, underneath or wherever!

Most Commando units world wide use this unit as it is according to their own blurbs; The most compact and efficient multi fuel stove in the world.

I've had them since about 1969 and am on my second one after finally rusting out the metal box.

About 5 years ago I bought a new Optimus stove, which is the precursor to the Nova you are thinking about. Sure it's a good stove but it isn't a patch on my 8R (Hunter). I went back to my 8R and my other unit is periodicly lent to my neices and nephews.

Anything I've run my bike on, from leaded to unleaded to Shell Optimax, it has run on. As well as Shellite, kerosene etc, etc, when backpacking.

Try this link:-

http://www.optimus.se/products/hunter/

Mick.
 
Pete, yes you can completely control the output.

Basically you do it like this:- obviously fill the tank up to the bottom of the inlet hole, close the lid.

You then have a few options here, firstly you can carry a small tube of starter paste, sort of like a small toothpaste tube. You place it in the cup or ring around the main burner, or, you can just slosh a bit of whatever fuel you're using and then strike a match. The idea is to heat up the burner section so that as fuel is drawn from the tank it vapourises as it comes out and thens burns cleanly.

There is a third starting method, this is the one I use 90% of the time. Turn the stove on, then hold an ungloved hand on the tank, in about 1½ minutes you'll have enough fuel seep out from the main jet and fill the small bowl. Close the stove, strike a light and ignite the said fuel, as the flames are starting to die you open the main jet and it should alight and burn at a lowish flame level. The expansion of the air and fuel due to the heat generated by your hand forces the fuel out, primitive but extremely effective.

The flame will be at a lowish level, no matter what you do. To correct this, place a container of something to heat up, water billy or a frying pan etc,. This will then radiate heat down to the main tank which will expand the trapped air and force fuel out at a much more rapid rate. Usually after about 2-4 minutes the stove is going like a rocket and will continue full bore for about 40 minutes. If you pull it back a bit it will cook constantly for close to an hour and if you simmer food about another 15 minutes.

For breakfast I boil about 600ml of water then start cooking toast, this usually takes about 20 minutes from go to finish at a leisurely pace.

They are extremely portable and work like a charm. They do have one fault, wind. Wind is a problem with almost any kind of cooking apparatus, don't believe the blurb which states that the lid acts as a wind break, for a tiny billy it might, anything else needs a better wind break. I usually arrange a pannier or the tent or even a bit of cardboard as a shelter and it works like a charm.

You can completely re-build them and spare parts are available pretty much world-wide. Usually after about 20 years the main jet will need replacing. My current one had it's first main jet replaced after 18½ years for a total cost of $22.00. I have also replaced the "O" ring on the filler cap.

The filler cap has a safety valve inbuilt, this will blow before the tank does. This should only occur after extreme heat has been delivered for a long time and one is using a very large frying pan. I know this from experience, made the dinner conversation that evening rather interesting.

The key that you see in the picture has holes in it, these holes fit all of the nuts, jets and those kinds of things. In short, with the key, you can take the thing apart and put it back together again. I would reccommend that you pull it off the stove whilst running, it gets very hot.

If you follow the above link and click on to the schematic diagram, you'll see the fuel bowl and other fancy stuff.

I would conservatively estimate that about 30 or so of my fellow motorcyclists in this country that I personally know, own and use this model stove.

Backpackers for some reason don't use this stove much, even though it is smaller, folds down to the best and most packageable size and is completely self contained.

I occassionally purchase an extreme backpacking magazine called Wild Trekker. In one of their issues they tested 12 liquid fuel stoves, including the Optimus 8R (Hunter). For cooking, ease of use and the important stuff, it was pretty much up there with the others. However it's weight was a bad factor in their opinion. I believe that they made an error of judgement, just as most backpackers do.

The weight of a Nova is listed as 420 g whilst the weight of the Hunter is listed as 650 g however when one adds the weight of a fuel bottle @ 120 g to the Nova it looks quite different with the real difference being 110 g in favour of the Nova. I've just weighed the bag holder for my Optimus Explorer (precursor of the Nova) it weighs 94g ± brings the weight factor pretty much even.

The choice is yours but if you can, try and find one of these little units and compare them side by side with it's bigger sibling.

Let me know which way you eventually go.

Mick.
 
That 8R looks like a bloody nice bit of kit Mick.....haven't seen one before......very nice bit of practical design.

I'm fiond of my Coleman multi-fuel because it's always been the fasted thing for producingh a brew....beats Trangias etc every time.....but it's a lot bigger than that 8r from the looks of it.:)
 
Yes, the Coleman Multifuel is a bigger unit.

I purchased some spare parts in a London store in 1982 for my Optimus, so they have been around your country for at least as long as that.

Mick.
 
got one

Decided that import tax etc etc would prove more hassle than it's worth so found one at Xtreme-Outdoors.com
£95 plus £1.50 p/p everyone else was £100-£120 plus p/p.
Ordered it yesterday afternoon , very friendly staff and it arrived first thing this morning.
It's tiiiiiiiiny!
 
Good choice Alan.

For info we've recently bought a Trangia adaptor which I believe is actually manufactured by Optimus. This converts the Trangia from meths burner to multifuel. Again it's tiny and very well engineered. :bounce1
 


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