Where to put a security chain?

[KP100]

Hi. Great forum..

I am soon about to join the ranks . I am after a GS 1200 . I have my eye on a 04 r1200gs.

But before I bring one home I have to sort out a problem. Without

a bike I dont know what to order. I had a KTM stolen from my home and dont want to have it happen again. I was quite devastated.

So I installed a very secure ground anchor last year .

Can an anti pinch pin be fitted to the front wheel? With a 19mm 1.5m chain. Or is there a place for a big 19mm chain to go through the frame near the front of the bike?
http://securityforbikes.com/products.php?cat=Anti-Pinch+Pin With a 19mm 1.5m chain.

Thanks

 

[GADGET]

Use a pinch pin through the hollow rear axle

 

[Rockred]

Use a pinch pin through the hollow rear axle

Plus one, much safer. Front wheel can be taken off, through the back you have the drive shaft. Sorry to hear about the KTM.


And welcome to the forum.

 

[KP100]

Thanks. Sounds like this place could be quite useful The KTM was my second nicked bike. That feeling of a stone in my stomach took a long time to fade.

I think maybe a 1.5 chain would be enough to reach the back wheel. The bike will be backed into that space with the rear at the window. What do ya think?

I had two oxford chains on each wheel of the KTM , tied to those small anchors. The robbers cut through them in less than a few mins with a large set of croppers. those cheaper chains are a complete waste of money,,

 

[Magwych]

If you reverse it in you can use the rear footrest hangar to loop the chain through.

I have just fitted the same Y anchor as you, and use an ALMAX SeriesIII chain. I can get one link up through the triangle by the rear foot rest, then the loop from the other end goes through and the padlock to lock it.

An advanatge of this is that the padlock is off the ground, and the chain cannot be slipped around to move the padlock.

 

[KP100]

Thanks .. I was just about to ask the same question. Excuse the MS paint . But do you think I would get away with a 1.5m series 4 Almax 19mm chain through this part.

Im thinking they could just cut the rear foot rest hanger off . But if it went through the rear sub frame they would have to damage to the bike to make it worth the risk.
I have no bike to measure it of which .. Yet..

 

[thebuyer]

When I go traveling

This is my old chain ... Through back wheel and a lamp post ... Sorted ( or at least it will slow thieves down a little )

 

[KP100]

Im going to order this bad boy today.

http://www.almax-security-chains.co...s-IV--Uber--Squire-SS65CS-Lock__p-70-129.aspx

Looks like an animal of a chain.

 

[kurienp]

KP100, a few key things
a) the Anti Pinch Pin is the best that I've found.
b) try and keep the chain off the ground and through the rear wheel is the best option. If possible do the rear wheel and the frame (separate chains).

Sorry to hear about your KTM - and all the best with the new steed.

 

[Magwych]

Thanks .. I was just about to ask the same question. Excuse the MS paint . But do you think I would get away with a 1.5m series 4 Almax 19mm chain through this part.

Im thinking they could just cut the rear foot rest hanger off . But if it went through the rear sub frame they would have to damage to the bike to make it worth the risk.
I have no bike to measure it of which .. Yet..

I tried this last night, it was a bit more fiddly, but would be much easier on the left hand side:

I assume you have the Y-anchor MAX ? If not you may have issues with an ALMAX Series1V, check the link size against what Y-anchor recommend !

 

[KP100]

I think the Y anchor is ok.. I made it from 5"x4" 1/4 thick box iron . Its sunk nearly 2 feet into the concrete. I can fit my arm into it. .. I was thinking of welding another bit of steel over the top of the Y where you have filled in with cement. Chain ordered . Came to £230. Wife does not know yet.

I think maybe a bit of white PVC pipeing to make a sleeve to protect the frame from that monster chain will be the next project.

I think the links on the series 4 are even bigger than the blue almax. Tis going to leave a mark..

Listen guys. Thanks so much for your help so far. Very welcoming place.

I will subscribe as soon as get the wheels..

 

[Gardham67]

Try a Bumpstop they are thatcham approved. I have one you ride into it and bike stays stood up. With your set up you could then chain front and back


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[Gardham67]

Www.bumpstop.co.uk


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[hughguzzi]

Good advice from all the above on Locks/chains etc but looking at your open parking location and that you have skills (ref ground anchor) I think you could easily provide more deterrent. If it was me, I would install a lockable/removeable vertical post into a ground socket , which at its top goes horizontal back to the rhs wall again into a lockable socket. (Or if your bike is too long to fit in the porch, do an upside down U shape so two locked legs are in the ground.) This gives a physical barrier to moving the bike and has to be overcome before even bothering to attack the chains. Obviously leave enough room for normal access to the front door but not enough for the bike to get around and at a height it cant be lifted over/pulled under. Use decent thick wall steel and guarded decent padlocks. Then I would use a bike cover and install a movement sensitive light/cctv/(and alarm on bike).
If youve had 2 bikes nicked i expect they are on the lookout for the next instalment so you gotta really put them off bothering. Oh and a big noisy dog helps!
Good luck !

 

[hughguzzi]

accidentally posted twice and cant seem to delete this !!

 

[Rockred]

Good advice from all the above on Locks/chains etc but looking at your open parking location and that you have skills (ref ground anchor) I think you could easily provide more deterrent. If it was me, I would install a lockable/removeable vertical post into a ground socket , which at its top goes horizontal back to the rhs wall again into a lockable socket. (Or if your bike is too long to fit in the porch, do an upside down U shape so two locked legs are in the ground.) This gives a physical barrier to moving the bike and has to be overcome before even bothering to attack the chains. Obviously leave enough room for normal access to the front door but not enough for the bike to get around and at a height it cant be lifted over/pulled under. Use decent thick wall steel and guarded decent padlocks. Then I would use a bike cover and install a movement sensitive light/cctv/(and alarm on bike).
If youve had 2 bikes nicked i expect they are on the lookout for the next instalment so you gotta really put them off bothering. Oh and a big noisy dog helps!
Good luck !

All good sound advice. Especially when 2 bikes have gone already, and portable angle grinders are being used.

 

[KP100]

Thanks. Lads.. I got my new to me machine today. Excuse the dirt. Was a rotton day to ride. Got an extra chain in Halford with a big loop end. Goes through the rear axle nicely. I also fitted a security cam and bought the oxford screamer disc lock. All that and the big Almax chain should make the thiefs look elsewhere . Hopefully.

Im now looking into a removable post and how I could fit one to physically jamming the bike against the wall.

http://www.workplacestuff.co.uk/product/lockable-folding-parking-posts/

I cant create a trip hazard as that is a public path at the end of the cobbles.

 

[Gardham67]

You could always put in some French doors and ride it right into the living room


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[Bendy toy]

They often steal to sell the bike in parts so wont be bothered about bolt cropping the frame. Best option is through the back wheel hub or between the fork ABOVE the swing arm. A half decent 18W Li-ion angle grinder with slitting disc will take out a hardened chain in about 1 minute. So you need alternative security as well as the lock.

 

[Stevie4scoops]

I'd like to electrify bikes so any scumbags would get fried