Where to put a security chain?

I use a Pragmasis chain, Pragmasis anti pinch pin, Squire lock and ground anchor....

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If you want a removable post, I use the Rhino posts from Marshalls Street Furniture (who are paving stones etc) to secure my Land Rover. One is a telescopic heavy duty galvanised post with hydraulic lift assist, the other is a lighter version that lifts out...

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I also use Pragmasis chains, one a 16mm and the other a 19mm they are best available. Great big heavy bu66ers, and they are guaranteed unable to be cropped.

The downside is that if determined bastids want your bike, they'll get it.

Cordless angle grinders make short change of any chain, even a 19mm pragmasis one, it takes about a minute and a half to cut through as opposed to something like 25 secs for other chains.


You can only deter them by making it as hard as possible.

"Let's be careful out there"
 
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Most important is a top of the range chain. you're up against professional who earn their living by stealing. They'll have good kit and they'll know what they're doing. And yes ... they don't give a fuck about trashing your frame or your drive shaft 'cos your bike will probably be broken for parts ....
 
They'll cut through anything with a bolt cropper if it's on or close to the floor, put the chain in the jaws, one handle goes on the floor two of them lean on the top handle and it's break anything. Angle grinders are a nightmare but at least they are noisy, as said try to make it as hard as possible, something mounted on the wall so they can't get to it behind the bike maybe? Nice looking bike too, well done!

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Most important is a top of the range chain. you're up against professional who earn their living by stealing. They'll have good kit and they'll know what they're doing. And yes ... they don't give a fuck about trashing your frame or your drive shaft 'cos your bike will probably be broken for parts ....

How does one go about protecting there clocks :nenau
 
They'll cut through anything with a bolt cropper if it's on or close to the floor, put the chain in the jaws, one handle goes on the floor two of them lean on the top handle and it's break anything. Angle grinders are a nightmare but at least they are noisy, as said try to make it as hard as possible, something mounted on the wall so they can't get to it behind the bike maybe? Nice looking bike too, well done!

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No denying it's a strong chain but there were flaws in their technique. It's all about making it impossible for scrotes and difficult for professionals

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The biggest threat will come from the cordless angle grinder, and Giles should know , as he's in the business so to speak. Also as Yoyo has said, if you can get the chain up against the wall behind the bike, so that they can't get the grinder at it, it should help. Be a right fiddly job to lock it up though. Given the recent history of having two bikes nicked, you are sure to get a visit. Just have to make it to hard for them, so they go elsewhere.
 
I'd also consider covering it too.
I regularly drive past a mates very expensive W/C Beemer in Cambridge, kept parked in his front garden on a busy through road and it's never been touched. Maybe because it lives under a crappy dirty old Oxford cover.
 
I'd also consider covering it too.
I regularly drive past a mates very expensive W/C Beemer in Cambridge, kept parked in his front garden on a busy through road and it's never been touched. Maybe because it lives under a crappy dirty old Oxford cover.

Yes ...

Most teams that nick bikes, don't break them themselves. The whole organised crime series if you like is sort of pigeon holed into expertise. One team will steal it, one team will break it, one team will sell it and so on. And they all take their cut. Whilst bikes are not 'stolen to order' as such, the feed back from the seller to the breaker to the stealer may well be something like 'Go for GS's if you can - they're holding their value in parts.. if you can bring me those there's more money in it for you'.
So to that extent, the teams that steal are actively looking for the best bang for their buck. If you advertise that you have a gleaming new GS on your driveway (Sunday mornings giving it a good clean and leaving it out all day ... ) then you're putting a fuck off flag up . 'GS Lives here' !!
Even being followed home? Not to be robbed there and then, simply to establish where a bike lives.

So if you can, keep the whole 'Bike lives at this house' under the radar. Clean and fettle it round the back, don't be paranoid about being followed home but if there's a transit with three shit bags in hoodies on the bench seat behind you as you approach home, go past and round the block. If your bike lives out the front, put a motion sensitive security light up, and cover it with two or three covers, the top one being the dirtiest shittiest tarpaulin like cover you can find.

Under the radar. That's your first defence. :thumb2
 
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The off road bikes are slightly different. They are often not broken but have all their ID ground off and used on MX circuits and the like. That dodgy transit with three EXC's in the back? definitely worth checking for chassis numbers!

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Somebodies pride and joy here that was nicked about a year ago. Engine number and chassis number still visible with a lot of effort despite a bad job of trying to grind it out ....
 
Seems they've started wearing Hi Vis to reduce suspicion..
 
This is a screenshot of my bike. Im at work and I've just logged in to see its tucked up nicely. The wifi camera cost £25 and sends a notification to my phone when motion is sensed. This is instant and occurs when the door is opened. You can also listen and talk through it. God forbid any one in there you can tell them the police are on there way. You can do this from anywhere in the world. No doubt they will smash it but would be in their toes. Mine is tucked high up in the rafters so they wouldn't see it on entering. It's called Clever Dog and are available on Amazon. Well worth it for the cost.
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