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I like to see them too, same as seeing a great looking bridge spanning a valley 
Windfarms on my doorstep, What can you do?
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In Denmark they build them just off the coast 
wully
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In Denmark they build them just off the coast
And the government there is trying to stop any more going up onshore as the country is covered in them, mostly community owned.
Which is fine when the wind blows, but when it stops everyone still wants their power..result being that they need full alternative capacity available and that's usually coal powered...so that has to be cranked up fast which is wasteful- and it needs to be running on standby all the time.
There doesn't seem to be any joined up thinking on power generation, here or abroad.
(which isn't surprising given the bunch of hopeless doppos running the country )
'Just interested to know why?'
oh dear ,my turn now !
Our coastline needs the waves to cleanse and aerate the water of all waste material e.g. dead vegetation, dead creatures and now that man walks and squats -sewage.
If you absorb energy from the waves our coastline will stagnate!
Ok it may take a while - even the impact on the hillsides caused by the energy absorption of wind turbines will take some time to show- but it will.
I do not say changes will be for the better in all cases but certainly our coastal areas will suffer the most.
Remove the cleansing, purging, aerating effect of waves and sit back and watch.
I suppose it is the butterfly effect but even moving a stone on the ground impacts the area where it lay.
oh dear ,my turn now !
Our coastline needs the waves to cleanse and aerate the water of all waste material e.g. dead vegetation, dead creatures and now that man walks and squats -sewage.
If you absorb energy from the waves our coastline will stagnate!
Ok it may take a while - even the impact on the hillsides caused by the energy absorption of wind turbines will take some time to show- but it will.
I do not say changes will be for the better in all cases but certainly our coastal areas will suffer the most.
Remove the cleansing, purging, aerating effect of waves and sit back and watch.
I suppose it is the butterfly effect but even moving a stone on the ground impacts the area where it lay.
cunning fox
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huv tae agree wi Raggi on this one, i dont mind wind turbines but WTF would you put them on a place like Dava moor when there are so many other places they could go 
cut the feckers down see what happens then.....
Why are people so unwilling to give wind-turbines a chance? They are the only current power source which you as a generation can put up with, that if proven to be uneconomic - the next generation can remove with little impact.
Stop being so feckin' selfish
Caithness is apparently now self-sufficient in power generation/consumption, and I can't say that the windfarms have been too intrusive in what is, in my opinion - a fairly dull and featureless landscape.
So windpower can't provide the base-load that areas require? So what? If it reduces the reliance on gas/coal/nuclear power - that has to be good.
In power generation/consumption there are no magic solutions - just sensble compromises.
Al
Stop being so feckin' selfish
Caithness is apparently now self-sufficient in power generation/consumption, and I can't say that the windfarms have been too intrusive in what is, in my opinion - a fairly dull and featureless landscape.
So windpower can't provide the base-load that areas require? So what? If it reduces the reliance on gas/coal/nuclear power - that has to be good.
In power generation/consumption there are no magic solutions - just sensble compromises.
Al
Brooner
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Why are people so unwilling to give wind-turbines a chance? They are the only current power source which you as a generation can put up with, that if proven to be uneconomic - the next generation can remove with little impact.
Stop being so feckin' selfish
Caithness is apparently now self-sufficient in power generation/consumption, and I can't say that the windfarms have been too intrusive in what is, in my opinion - a fairly dull and featureless landscape.
So windpower can't provide the base-load that areas require? So what? If it reduces the reliance on gas/coal/nuclear power - that has to be good.
In power generation/consumption there are no magic solutions - just sensble compromises.
Al
each google search uses the same amount of power as boiling a kettle twice, each server buzzing away cumalative effects etc, to save all this demand for power just turn the internet off...
Jobs a carrot
Wind farms look all nice form a distance, I stayed (near) with in 200m a single winder generator in germany they make a hell of a noise. When the wind was in the right direction the bass resonance cut through the house like a hot knife through butter.
After that holiday I needed another holiday as my teef had been ground to dust... I hate'em now
if they're that ineffective nuclear is the way forward after all ET's space ship ain't wind powered is it.
Jobs a carrot
Wind farms look all nice form a distance, I stayed (near) with in 200m a single winder generator in germany they make a hell of a noise. When the wind was in the right direction the bass resonance cut through the house like a hot knife through butter.
After that holiday I needed another holiday as my teef had been ground to dust... I hate'em now
if they're that ineffective nuclear is the way forward after all ET's space ship ain't wind powered is it.
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I'm pretty sure that a wind turbine wouldn't be allowed to be sited within 200m of a dwelling in the UK. Unless it was privately owned by the house owner, which is irrelevant to whats being discussed here.
Mr K
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There's a couple near Hesket Newmarket within 20 metres of a farm house and the road.
They're big feckers close-up an'all.
Mr K
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In Denmark they build them just off the coast
They did at Blyth, up here too. Cables to them got damaged by anchors and 3 were out of service for months.
They're okay in industrial locations, like Nissan at Washington, but not our beautiful countryside.
I mean they are bloody huge and do actually make a noise....maybe pretty in pictures...
good point please strike my last comment from the register
(still hate the kin things)
Gents
This has sparked
off people on both sides of the debate BUT no one has answered my original questions.I am not only a nimby but if I can get these things stopped elsewhere just show me where you want me to sign.
They may be pretty in some peoples eyes and I would not dare to dictate to anyone what to like or dislike, I do find it offensive when something is pushed in my face without so much as a by your leave (Fer Christs sake dont talk about religin).
As far as the enviromental question is concerned have a look at this.
http://www.power-technology.com/news/news2654.html
Looks to me that if the money grabing B******ds invested in this kind of thing everyone would be happy.
Maybe yes, maybe no, I am sure the noggies are not doing this kind of thing for the crack and they seem to have there heads screwed on when it comes to looking after its people (See oil revenue) so either way NOT IN MY BACK YARD if I can help it.
Raggi
Myke Rocks
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Just found out that three of the estates are proposing windfarms on the Dava moor. This will devastate the scenery and spoil a great ride over Dava Grantown road.
What the feck is going on? This is one of the beautiful untouched areas in Scotland nay Europe. How can the B******s sleep at night?
I'm sure most of you guys have been down this road, both sides of Lochindorb are great fun.
I went to a meeting in Cawdor which the local resistance movement
Has anybody gone up against this kind of thing before?
What can be done?
Raggi
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How exactly will they spoil a good ride?
First couple of lines:
The clue is in the word scenery
or if you drive all the way around your circuit without stopping or looking at the scenery you might want to consider mounting your bike on a tred mill & sticking a picture of something in your visor.
Corse you could save the enviroment as well if you didnt switch the engine on and just made broom broom noises in your helmet.
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First couple of lines:
The clue is in the word scenery
or if you drive all the way around your circuit without stopping or looking at the scenery you might want to consider mounting your bike on a tred mill & sticking a picture of something in your visor.
Corse you could save the enviroment as well if you didnt switch the engine on and just made broom broom noises in your helmet.
Game Set and Match, Mr Raggistash
Myke Rocks
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Spoiling a good ride
So the ride is only for the scenery?
The road and it's undulations are irrelevant.
There are many motorways which fit this bill!
No. It take your point though, but:
When in the Pyrenees, I took a photo with a pylon in it, just because the pylon gave a scale to the overall grandeur, and the sheer difficulty of installation. (See photo)
No, it's not that I think either pylons or turbines are beautiful, it is just the sheer size of wind turbines which awes me.
Drive towards one, it does not appear to be very big, until you get to the base. Then it is just startling!
Myke
So the ride is only for the scenery?
The road and it's undulations are irrelevant.
There are many motorways which fit this bill!
No. It take your point though, but:
When in the Pyrenees, I took a photo with a pylon in it, just because the pylon gave a scale to the overall grandeur, and the sheer difficulty of installation. (See photo)
No, it's not that I think either pylons or turbines are beautiful, it is just the sheer size of wind turbines which awes me.
Drive towards one, it does not appear to be very big, until you get to the base. Then it is just startling!
Myke
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Broko
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Are wind turbines really that green??
As far as I am aware, the wind turbines are largely made of aluminium, and that needs huge amounts of electricity to refine....what powers the smelters....etc....
Bottom line, whatever you do, has a negative effect of some description
We have one where I work in Hull and the build payback is less than 3 years. That is the energy used in manufacture.
Its fantastic and everyone says so.
Then it is in the middle of Hull the arsehole of Yorkshire so its not likely to affect the scenery.
Broko
