exeter_lad
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If I buy a USB2.0 PCI card and install it will Windows 98SE run it at 2.0
Windows 98 and USB2.0
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Ste@SSB
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Should do ... but you will need a driver for the card...
The USB support in anything before windows 2000 is minimal, and flaky. USB 2.0 is about 5 years ahead of the OS and it's very likely not going to work properly. - Get a copy of XP would be the best advice.
guitarman
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Works fine on my old Win98SE PC.
Ste@SSB
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I have fitted 5 or 6 to computers running win98se and Me ... they all worked ok except one that kept blue screening occasionally ... but ... and its a big but ... the biggest problem will be when you try to find a driver for the usb2 things you want to plug in rather than the card itself...
exeter_lad
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Thank You
Thanks for the advice. Have ordered a cardand will see how it goes.
Everyone at work and at homekeeps telling me to get XP. But my experience of developing 8 hours a day on XP software and the horror stories my friends and family have of XP crashing, failing, etc I am content to plod along home with trusty old 98. Does everything I need so far.
Thanks for the advice. Have ordered a cardand will see how it goes.
Everyone at work and at homekeeps telling me to get XP. But my experience of developing 8 hours a day on XP software and the horror stories my friends and family have of XP crashing, failing, etc I am content to plod along home with trusty old 98. Does everything I need so far.
Even so you'll find that as posted above WDM drivers for 2.0 devices are going to be scarce. As a developer, you surely need to keep current with windows releases/development tools/installer/.net/ddk don't you?
Fanum
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exeter_lad said:Thanks for the advice. Have ordered a cardand will see how it goes.
Everyone at work and at homekeeps telling me to get XP. But my experience of developing 8 hours a day on XP software and the horror stories my friends and family have of XP crashing, failing, etc I am content to plod along home with trusty old 98. Does everything I need so far.
I held off geting XP for along time for similar reasons....driver support for gaming kit was bad initially........
XP is bloody good though....way more stable than '98 and for things like networking it's superb.....it does crash from time to time but only (IME ) because of the third party app......and then only if you go poking around inside like I like to do
Don't mess around with 98......it just ain't worth it anymore
exeter_lad said:
not a phrase you hear every day
Ste@SSB
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I hated Xp when it came out of the closet ... terrible OS in my opinion ... still is ... Win2000 will always be my favourite ... no frills and solid...
If it wasn't for the hardware I have and the software I like I would still be running W2k...
98 on the other hand is too old and buggy ... and the time is coming where people are starting to forget how to fix it...
If it wasn't for the hardware I have and the software I like I would still be running W2k...
98 on the other hand is too old and buggy ... and the time is coming where people are starting to forget how to fix it...
Jez D
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IMO all operating systems crash from time to time, usaully 3rd party software, or user error!
What is important, is diasaster recovery, and XP is very easy to repair, with functions like system restore, using repair console from XP OEM disk and (if you know what youre doing) manual registry repairs from hidden back up files. Windows 2000 is a simple solid o/s, but if it breaks, usually its a re-install!
What is important, is diasaster recovery, and XP is very easy to repair, with functions like system restore, using repair console from XP OEM disk and (if you know what youre doing) manual registry repairs from hidden back up files. Windows 2000 is a simple solid o/s, but if it breaks, usually its a re-install!
exeter_lad
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Deafened
Ok, OK - I get the message. Perhaps I'll put an upgrade on my birthday list.
As for being a developer and needing to keep up to date - I get enough of that at work.
At home, the Pc is for leisure. At my age I work to live, not the other way round.
And for the next controversial bit, could I suggest that having worked up the ladders through 1GL to 4(.5?) GL, this .net stuff is like sliding down the snake?
Ok, OK - I get the message. Perhaps I'll put an upgrade on my birthday list.As for being a developer and needing to keep up to date - I get enough of that at work.
At home, the Pc is for leisure. At my age I work to live, not the other way round.
And for the next controversial bit, could I suggest that having worked up the ladders through 1GL to 4(.5?) GL, this .net stuff is like sliding down the snake?
Before checing the operating system support, check the level of the PCI slot on the motherboard into which you will be placing the USB2.0 card. The PCI standards have also moved on. I've forgotton the point at which it occurs, but there is a point in the PCI evolution where you'll find the card has been developed to a more recent PCI standard than the motherboard will support. Thus, if you have an old pc to go with the old release on W98, it may not be the OS that stops it working.
Time to consider hardware and software replacement...
Time to consider hardware and software replacement...
centaur
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Chisurz said:
If it's any help though, my PC is a 6 y.o Gateway machine which came with W98SE, used until late last year when I upgraded to XP Home. I bought a 4 port PCI USB2 card in late 2004 which worked fine with the old OS and MoBo and continues to do so with XP.
Invicta Moto
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exeter_lad said:Thanks for the advice. Have ordered a cardand will see how it goes.
Everyone at work and at homekeeps telling me to get XP. But my experience of developing 8 hours a day on XP software and the horror stories my friends and family have of XP crashing, failing, etc I am content to plod along home with trusty old 98. Does everything I need so far.
We have XP in out 68 schools in the borough I work for, in education IT, and that amounts to about 300 PC's. We have it on all 250 desk and laptops the LEA has and we have yet to have a failure in the OS. It does have some security holes that MS have been plugging. So I'd guess reliability isn't that bad. Then again we only run a schools MIS product using MS SQL plus MS Office, so we may not be finding the limitsof the OS.
exeter_lad
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It works!
Card arrived from China today. Installed it, loaded the drivers that came with it and whoopee. Speed of transferring to my USB2.0 external drive is phenomonal.
Add to that, I connected up my digital camera yesterday so that my daughter could use it as a webcam on MSN. Looks like I'll need a better excuse to upgrade to XP.
Mind you, I would like to access Google Earth and that isn't compatible with XP is it?
As for the XP in schools, my wife works in a school and they are always having problems. And every time a fix is applied, her laptop either works in school or at home - but seldom both. Perhaps it's their contracted engineers?
Card arrived from China today. Installed it, loaded the drivers that came with it and whoopee. Speed of transferring to my USB2.0 external drive is phenomonal.
Add to that, I connected up my digital camera yesterday so that my daughter could use it as a webcam on MSN. Looks like I'll need a better excuse to upgrade to XP.
Mind you, I would like to access Google Earth and that isn't compatible with XP is it?
As for the XP in schools, my wife works in a school and they are always having problems. And every time a fix is applied, her laptop either works in school or at home - but seldom both. Perhaps it's their contracted engineers?
Bigtwin
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Or just get a Mac and forget what these stability discussions etc were all about...
IainMac
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having had the mis fortune of growing up with Windows from 3.1 (managed to miss the first vers) through to current xp (luckily no longer my job to support ;-) I woulds have say time is great for the rose tinted specs ie, I recall NT4 being a revelation after struggling with win95 and win95 was brill compared to 3.1 (3.11) . XP SP2 is as robust as any current O/S , and as long as you dont keep fiddling it will do it day in day out.
I would pick the O/S u use based on the Application support you want, ie MAC if graphic work is your bag. Linux if you like inspecting your navel fluff .
Win98 (not ME!) was probably the best of the old win vers and was used a debugger for a lot of XP code, however it is OLD and will have lots of undisclosed holes (including internet explorer if ur using it and its not on latest version) that a nasty bit of code may stroll straight through so perhaps its best not to online bank etc on it.
I've also worked with a significant section of MAC history up to on v7.x and they weren't without issues. though as stated by others with all (current) O/S its what apps u load that usually screw it rather than the core these days. PS mac OS ver X aint without grief too , sis works in graphics and has managed to borrox her G5, usuall crap in crap out.
That said ur win98 box will probably run on less memory than that needed for current XP , u pays ur money and takes ur choice.
I would pick the O/S u use based on the Application support you want, ie MAC if graphic work is your bag. Linux if you like inspecting your navel fluff
.Win98 (not ME!) was probably the best of the old win vers and was used a debugger for a lot of XP code, however it is OLD and will have lots of undisclosed holes (including internet explorer if ur using it and its not on latest version) that a nasty bit of code may stroll straight through so perhaps its best not to online bank etc on it.
I've also worked with a significant section of MAC history up to on v7.x and they weren't without issues. though as stated by others with all (current) O/S its what apps u load that usually screw it rather than the core these days. PS mac OS ver X aint without grief too , sis works in graphics and has managed to borrox her G5, usuall crap in crap out.
That said ur win98 box will probably run on less memory than that needed for current XP , u pays ur money and takes ur choice.
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