Workaround for faltering GS

[Zardoz]

I’ve posted earlier about the misfire and hesitation I’ve been having with my new water cooled GS. Whenever I try to maintain a steady speed the engine begins faltering and hesitating. It starts slowly and gradually increases until it’s like running on fouled plugs. In addition, when releasing the throttle or coasting on a slight downward incline the engine clearly misfires or falters. At the present time BMW is not able to provide a satisfactory solution to my problem.

After some consideration, I decided to purchase the Booster Plug to try to compensate for the lousy mapping of fuel during a steady throttle. While the Booster Plug is no magic bullet it still resolves about 90% of my issues.

Due to exorbitant taxes based on horsepower in Norway, this bike costs NOK 270,000 (USD 46,000, £29,000). For that kind of money I get a little irritated when the engine misfires. The problem is that I was a car mechanic for 25 years and I know when an engine is misfiring. On a bike though there is the added problem of road surface transmitting through the handlebar, wind noise and wind buffeting. This makes differentiating a misfire difficult and ends up relying on feel to determine what is misfire and what is false hesitation.

While my bike has a definitive misfire, the Booster Plug takes care of most of the problem. I can recommend it for anyone having similar problems with their wc GS. Just take the additional cost as necessary bling.

The occasional halting and stumbling is something I can live with. In the meantime, I’ll have to wait for BMW to get off its ass and get this sorted.

http://www.boosterplug.com/shop/frontpage.html

Search words: misfire surge surging faltering

 

[Captain Black]

29 k

Fuck me!

I feel for you I really do.

Having read the many threads of issues, problems, faults etc etc call them what you will, I'd be mighty pissed off at spending 15k on what would seem a test bed first edition bike.
It's a new fault thread every day on here.
I would seriously struggle to keep patient with BMW especially as the wankers don't seem to even have a spare parts strategy with these new models. Mind you they probably ship that many fault related spares that the stocks are seriously depleted.
But stone the crows 29,000.00 for a potentially nice bike is crazy in the extreme.
I really hope you get
Some satisfaction from BMW .

 

[Box 12]

Query re booster plug

On reading this thread I wonder if my issue is also solvable?

I find that I stall the bike frequently? This is my 6th boxer since 2007. Two r12r's one HP2 and 3 GS's. I've done over 200,000 Kim's in that time.

I have stalled my WC more in the last 6 weeks (since new) than all the others collectively over 6 years. I love the bike and am sure whatever the issue is it can be sorted. I'm not complaining, just looking for a solution.

Is a booster plug likely to improve the stalling issue?

 

[alp]

Approx 6% extra fuel @ say 50mpg that's 3 mpg or 12 less miles per 200 miles. Not too bad if you have a problem. I wonder how much power we'd get? Must read the info. again.

 

[alp]

I find that I stall the bike frequently?

I think it's mainly due to the rotating mass of the new engine being less than before (the engine revs up and stops quicker) and this could show up under very low throttle openings at low engine revs since there is less mass rotating to keep it from stalling. The booster plug looks interesting since it should/may give you a little extra torque at these low revs if you can't get used to it.

 

[iandavid]

29 k

Fuck me!

I feel for you I really do.

Having read the many threads of issues, problems, faults etc etc call them what you will, I'd be mighty pissed off at spending 15k on what would seem a test bed first edition bike.
It's a new fault thread every day on here.
I would seriously struggle to keep patient with BMW especially as the wankers don't seem to even have a spare parts strategy with these new models. Mind you they probably ship that many fault related spares that the stocks are seriously depleted.
But stone the crows 29,000.00 for a potentially nice bike is crazy in the extreme.
I really hope you get
Some satisfaction from BMW .

Dear Captain Cnut

Why don't you shut the fuck up until you can contribute something useful to the debate instead of the tireless crap you spout about how bad the bike, BMW and everyone else is. The fact is the majority of the bikes are fine and BMW will sort out the few problem bikes. They always have.

 

[rattler]

Dear Captain Cnut

Why don't you shut the fuck up until you can contribute something useful to the debate instead of the tireless crap you spout about how bad the bike, BMW and everyone else is. The fact is the majority of the bikes are fine and BMW will sort out the few problem bikes. They always have.

 

[KevG]

29 k

Fuck me!

I feel for you I really do.

Having read the many threads of issues, problems, faults etc etc call them what you will, I'd be mighty pissed off at spending 15k on what would seem a test bed first edition bike.
It's a new fault thread every day on here.
I would seriously struggle to keep patient with BMW especially as the wankers don't seem to even have a spare parts strategy with these new models. Mind you they probably ship that many fault related spares that the stocks are seriously depleted.
But stone the crows 29,000.00 for a potentially nice bike is crazy in the extreme.
I really hope you get
Some satisfaction from BMW .

Its ONE bike!!!

Honestly Jealousy is a terrible thing isn't it!
Spare part,s Flood , Ring any bells?
If you don't like water cooled GS's don't read this part of the forum!
If you don't like BMW's why have you got one !!!

 

[telbenj]

sticky plaster

I’ve posted earlier about the misfire and hesitation I’ve been having with my new water cooled GS. Whenever I try to maintain a steady speed the engine begins faltering and hesitating. It starts slowly and gradually increases until it’s like running on fouled plugs. In addition, when releasing the throttle or coasting on a slight downward incline the engine clearly misfires or falters. At the present time BMW is not able to provide a satisfactory solution to my problem.

After some consideration, I decided to purchase the Booster Plug to try to compensate for the lousy mapping of fuel during a steady throttle. While the Booster Plug is no magic bullet it still resolves about 90% of my issues.

Due to exorbitant taxes based on horsepower in Norway, this bike costs NOK 270,000 (USD 46,000, £29,000). For that kind of money I get a little irritated when the engine misfires. The problem is that I was a car mechanic for 25 years and I know when an engine is misfiring. On a bike though there is the added problem of road surface transmitting through the handlebar, wind noise and wind buffeting. This makes differentiating a misfire difficult and ends up relying on feel to determine what is misfire and what is false hesitation.

While my bike has a definitive misfire, the Booster Plug takes care of most of the problem. I can recommend it for anyone having similar problems with their wc GS. Just take the additional cost as necessary bling.

The occasional halting and stumbling is something I can live with. In the meantime, I’ll have to wait for BMW to get off its ass and get this sorted.

http://www.boosterplug.com/shop/frontpage.html

Search words: misfire surge surging faltering

not sure using the boosterplug is the right answer after all it is just a sticky plaster masking the real issue, I would want it confirmed at the dealers and and real fix found, the booster should be a performance aid nothing else.

Terry

 

[Chris Terry]

Dear Captain Cnut

Why don't you shut the fuck up until you can contribute something useful to the debate instead of the tireless crap you spout about how bad the bike, BMW and everyone else is. The fact is the majority of the bikes are fine and BMW will sort out the few problem bikes. They always have.

Don't waffle, tell him straight .....

 

[Gossy]

Dear Captain Cnut

Why don't you shut the fuck up until you can contribute something useful to the debate instead of the tireless crap you spout about how bad the bike, BMW and everyone else is. The fact is the majority of the bikes are fine and BMW will sort out the few problem bikes. They always have.

That's a very refreshing view, as long as the majority of bikes are fine you're at at one with the world.

I bought a X3 waited 7 months for delivery from the new plant in the USA, it's nearly 2 years old with about 30k on it, if I'm not riding I'm driving, it hasn't even blown a bulb and was one of the first in the UK, the technology is sound.

I didn't cross my fingers on a totally new model, I had faith in the brand, it's not my first car from BMW, but BMW Motorrad aren't quite the same are they.

Yes you are being baited, and yes you do bite, but I wonder how long it will be before you're brainwashed into believing that all of the niggles are part of the new character of the bike.

There's a fair few of you with issues, why don't you collectively have a discussion and ride down to Reading and get some publicity to move matters forward, get organised

 

[Neil W]

In the same vein a mate bought a brand new X5 when they first came out, week one gearbox blew up, numerous suspension faults etc, off the road for 17 weeks in the first year, BMW bought it back and paid compensation to its full original cost.

 

[Gossy]

In the same vein a mate bought a brand new X5 when they first came out, week one gearbox blew up, numerous suspension faults etc, off the road for 17 weeks in the first year, BMW bought it back and paid compensation to its full original cost.

And how many bikes are waiting to get sorted, with no chance of a refund or compo?

I'm genuinely sorry for all of the new WC owners who have problems, BMW shouldn't be designing fixes at this stage. I'm just hoping that before the GSA is launched the motor will be sorted.

 

[Chris Terry]

And how many bikes are waiting to get sorted, with no chance of a refund or compo?

I'm genuinely sorry for all of the new WC owners who have problems, BMW shouldn't be designing fixes at this stage. I'm just hoping that before the GSA is launched the motor will be sorted.

The motor is "sorted".. well mine is anyway !
Are you one of these Nobs who just cant stand having an obsolete model ?. Get a grip, save up and trade up or shut up.

 

[Gossy]

The motor is "sorted".. well mine is anyway !
Are you one of these Nobs who just cant stand having an obsolete model ?. Get a grip, save up and trade up or shut up.

It's far from being obsolete Terry, and incidentally I'm fortunate enough to buy one but would rather keep my GSA and wait a year for most of the issues on the bikes other than yours to be addressed - makes sense to me.

I'll check back in a year on you and see how youve faired, my point dear fucktard, is that the Motorrad side of the business is not run with the same desire for customer satisfaction.

 

[autogs]

The motor is "sorted".. well mine is anyway !
Are you one of these Nobs who just cant stand having an obsolete model ?. Get a grip, save up and trade up or shut up.

why oh why when someone criticises the wc is it because they are deemed to be green eyed?

your comment of save up and trade up or shut up makes you as big a nob as you think everyone else is.

btw i have roadtested the wc twice now and i still dont like it and yes i could afford it thanks very much

 

[Chris Terry]

It's far from being obsolete Terry, and incidentally I'm fortunate enough to buy one but would rather keep my GSA and wait a year for most of the issues on the bikes other than yours to be addressed - makes sense to me.

I'll check back in a year on you and see how youve faired, my point dear fucktard, is that the Motorrad side of the business is not run with the same desire for customer satisfaction.

Do you know what obsolete means? It means not made anymore my dear flossy. When you check back in a year I'll be riding something else and so will you (R1200GSA LC). As for BMW customer satisfaction, they sold you your current clunker with it's problems didn't they...

 

[Chris Terry]

why oh why when someone criticises the wc is it because they are deemed to be green eyed?

your comment of save up and trade up or shut up makes you as big a nob as you think everyone else is.

btw i have roadtested the wc twice now and i still dont like it and yes i could afford it thanks very much

I don't think everyone else is a nob, just the ones who slag off other peoples new toys like you and gay boy.

 

[Gossy]

Do you know what obsolete means? It means not made anymore my dear flossy. When you check back in a year I'll be riding something else and so will you (R1200GSA LC). As for BMW customer satisfaction, they sold you your current clunker with it's problems didn't they...

... its true, but maybe ive been like you and fault free!

As for the GSA LC.........xxx

 

[knucklemoto]

Due to exorbitant taxes based on horsepower in Norway, this bike costs NOK 270,000 (USD 46,000, £29,000).

I'd forgotten how lucky we are (for now) here in the UK. I went across europe in 2008 on my '06 1200RT and stopped for directions and tea at a roadside truckers cafe in Switzerland. He was polite and helpful but couldn't stop staring at the bike...

"That is my favourite moto. I want one but to me it is 20,000 euros... you are so lucky..."

I hope you get support from your dealer and BMW. I'm guessing that BMW provide different cam / timing / injection set ups for each country according to local laws / hp limits. Could it be yours is grossly underdeveloped?

Good luck. But that is so much money for a bike, let alone one that you need to alter fresh out of the box...