The dogs cahonnes
Worldbeater panniers.Pre-production clearout
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Thanks Vern
Ready for that trip to erm Sainsbury's
Thor
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Went up to Chester yesterday to pick up my panniers. Vern is an absolute star to deal with, panniers expertly fitted (and he fixed a couple of things on my bike). Filled with fascinating accounts of his travels, GS's and life in general, Vern shows passion and care for his work.
The panniers are incredibly well made, very, very strong, very light (Compared to BM*'s). The fitting kits are again very strong, lightweight but fairly unobtrusive when no panniers fitted to them.
I mulled over which panniers to get for a long time, went through the usual options, but nothing really felt that they were the ones.
Pay money to a faceless organisation?, pay extortionate amounts for 'standard' boxes?..............
No thanks, I'd rather get them 'handmade in the shed'.
Thanks again Vern
Better hurry up, only three sets of his pre-production run left (these are absolutely perfect).
Went up to Chester yesterday to pick up my panniers. Vern is an absolute star to deal with, panniers expertly fitted (and he fixed a couple of things on my bike). Filled with fascinating accounts of his travels, GS's and life in general, Vern shows passion and care for his work.
The panniers are incredibly well made, very, very strong, very light (Compared to BM*'s). The fitting kits are again very strong, lightweight but fairly unobtrusive when no panniers fitted to them.
I mulled over which panniers to get for a long time, went through the usual options, but nothing really felt that they were the ones.
Pay money to a faceless organisation?, pay extortionate amounts for 'standard' boxes?..............
No thanks, I'd rather get them 'handmade in the shed'.
Thanks again Vern
Better hurry up, only three sets of his pre-production run left (these are absolutely perfect).
You never mentioned the big bun that got stuffed in yer face
Glad you're chuffed
Glad you're chuffed
Thor
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You never mentioned the big bun that got stuffed in yer face
Glad you're chuffed
Vern also goes to the trouble of getting you lunch and filling you up with good coffee all afternoon as well........ (and you can also drool over his absolutely pristine 1100GS).
WARNING
Listening to him does fire-up the wanderlust inside you, I spent the whole of the A41 thinking of a Spanish Odessey
Madmountainman
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Thor
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That will never last!!!
I think he spent a long time looking for the right one, it really is very, very nice
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A bit longer review...
Done some Ks with them now, mostly gravel and I can tell more about them.
Waterproofness: they are completely waterproof after hours of riding in the pouring rain. Water didn't get in even when washing with pressure-washer.
Integrity and bombproofness: have done offroad, with some slow and medium speed falls - the corner cutout does the job, just some scratches and dents, unlike ZEGAS that my mate got twisted on fall (the "Achilles heel" corner of the square shaped boxes). Also bike has ticked over couple of times from sidestand onto the tarmac and panniers aren't affected or bent.
No mounting bit or bolt hasn't loosened up or broken on carrying more than 10kg of stuff on each panniers over Estonian potholed and corrugated smaller tar and dirt roads.
Finish: the anodizing quality is absolute top noch compared to the ZEGAs for example that already have it peeling off and corroding on damaged spots, and mate of mine is amazed that after this abuse mine are still mint! So don't be fooled by "anodizing" many manufacturers advertize, it can be seriously crap (just a thin almost non-existant layer on Zegas for example), also painting or varnishing is mostly short-term solution. So IMHO a good quality anodizing is the way to go for long term usage w/o annoying aluminium corrodation inside the panniers making your stuff silver-dirty, your food poisonous or outside the pannier looking old and collecting dirt.
Capacity: haven't calculated precicely but they are more than 40L each. Roughly calculating the r/h side is around 48-50 liters and l/h exhaust-cutout side is around 45 liters. And with that relatively huge volume the width of the bike is down less than a metre - 97.5cm to be precise.
Aerodynamics: fuel consumption has stayed the same. I do around 100-120kph on gravel, which is optimum speed for my GS. While my previous boxes did around +0.1 to +0.3L per 100km fuel consumption rise with those speeds. With Worldbeaters there's no apparent difference whether the boxes are on or off - Vern's wind tunnel tests obviously start to pay off(?) I'll let you know the autobahn tests when I ('m forced to) get there...
Pillon comfort - no restrictions for legs or comfort limits - Kariina rather likes them and feels more secure. Fixing some softer stuff on the panniers will make them nice comfty hand-supports which makes the rear seat rather desirable place to be.
The only minor (actually my own) con I've found so far: although I already have 4 tie-downs on each pannier I maybe should have ordered additional ones in the middle, since I often place my tripod on the pannier for short photo-trips out in the weekends and I'm lazy enough to tie it with 2 ties as a lazy bugger. But then again with 2 tie downs fixed it's more scure and my £££ tripod won't fly away when the one belt decides to broke. So maybe I better get used to fixing it with 2 belts Anyways I'd recommend geting decent 4 tiedowns on each pannier. You can put loads of stuff on the pannier whether for very long trips or for just silly-shaped things to transport that are too long to put in the pannier or you can just use soft stuff in waterproof rolls on the panniers for additional comfort for your pillon.
Shortly: love 'em!
Does my bum look big through wide-ange lens?
Actually they're less than 1 metre wide
Front.
The exhaust cutout side of the pannier. Fits me nice sounding Leo-Vince ALU exhaust very nicely, and enhances the all-silver looks
With rider (erm... pillon) placed on the bike, just for the perspective.
Cheers, Margus
Done some Ks with them now, mostly gravel and I can tell more about them.
Waterproofness: they are completely waterproof after hours of riding in the pouring rain. Water didn't get in even when washing with pressure-washer.
Integrity and bombproofness: have done offroad, with some slow and medium speed falls - the corner cutout does the job, just some scratches and dents, unlike ZEGAS that my mate got twisted on fall (the "Achilles heel" corner of the square shaped boxes). Also bike has ticked over couple of times from sidestand onto the tarmac and panniers aren't affected or bent.
No mounting bit or bolt hasn't loosened up or broken on carrying more than 10kg of stuff on each panniers over Estonian potholed and corrugated smaller tar and dirt roads.
Finish: the anodizing quality is absolute top noch compared to the ZEGAs for example that already have it peeling off and corroding on damaged spots, and mate of mine is amazed that after this abuse mine are still mint! So don't be fooled by "anodizing" many manufacturers advertize, it can be seriously crap (just a thin almost non-existant layer on Zegas for example), also painting or varnishing is mostly short-term solution. So IMHO a good quality anodizing is the way to go for long term usage w/o annoying aluminium corrodation inside the panniers making your stuff silver-dirty, your food poisonous or outside the pannier looking old and collecting dirt.
Capacity: haven't calculated precicely but they are more than 40L each. Roughly calculating the r/h side is around 48-50 liters and l/h exhaust-cutout side is around 45 liters. And with that relatively huge volume the width of the bike is down less than a metre - 97.5cm to be precise.
Aerodynamics: fuel consumption has stayed the same. I do around 100-120kph on gravel, which is optimum speed for my GS. While my previous boxes did around +0.1 to +0.3L per 100km fuel consumption rise with those speeds. With Worldbeaters there's no apparent difference whether the boxes are on or off - Vern's wind tunnel tests obviously start to pay off(?) I'll let you know the autobahn tests when I ('m forced to) get there...
Pillon comfort - no restrictions for legs or comfort limits - Kariina rather likes them and feels more secure. Fixing some softer stuff on the panniers will make them nice comfty hand-supports which makes the rear seat rather desirable place to be.
The only minor (actually my own) con I've found so far: although I already have 4 tie-downs on each pannier I maybe should have ordered additional ones in the middle, since I often place my tripod on the pannier for short photo-trips out in the weekends and I'm lazy enough to tie it with 2 ties as a lazy bugger. But then again with 2 tie downs fixed it's more scure and my £££ tripod won't fly away when the one belt decides to broke. So maybe I better get used to fixing it with 2 belts
Anyways I'd recommend geting decent 4 tiedowns on each pannier. You can put loads of stuff on the pannier whether for very long trips or for just silly-shaped things to transport that are too long to put in the pannier or you can just use soft stuff in waterproof rolls on the panniers for additional comfort for your pillon.Shortly: love 'em!
Does my bum look big through wide-ange lens?
Actually they're less than 1 metre wide
Front.
The exhaust cutout side of the pannier. Fits me nice sounding Leo-Vince ALU exhaust very nicely, and enhances the all-silver looks
With rider (erm... pillon) placed on the bike, just for the perspective.
Cheers, Margus
The cats pyjamas
Just purchased one of the last pre production sets today, fantastic quality, solid kit and fitted free by a very nice man, cheers Vern. Will post a few pictures as soon as I can find the camera
Beaker
Just purchased one of the last pre production sets today, fantastic quality, solid kit and fitted free by a very nice man, cheers Vern
. Will post a few pictures as soon as I can find the cameraBeaker
WAREGS
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08 GSA
Does anyone have these on a 08 GSA? i'd like to see some pics?
also what the costs are roughly and do they include the fixings for the bikes and locks etc
they do look fantastic and everybody has praise for them?
Does anyone have these on a 08 GSA? i'd like to see some pics?
also what the costs are roughly and do they include the fixings for the bikes and locks etc
they do look fantastic and everybody has praise for them?
vernon
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Worldbeaters
Just got back from France with my new luggage 10/10 if you want inner bags
go to boots large cotton bag £4.00 fits like a glove. By the way Vern i had to go to a BMW Dealer they were Amazed by the workmanship. See you at Lumb Park.
Just got back from France with my new luggage 10/10 if you want inner bags
go to boots large cotton bag £4.00 fits like a glove. By the way Vern i had to go to a BMW Dealer they were Amazed by the workmanship. See you at Lumb Park.
There is a seperate thread somewhere with a set on an 08ADV,they've done their proving and sholud be breaking cover soon,and you get everything you need to ride away with
Vern
I'm now of the orange persuasion. Will you make some to fit the TT frames on my 640 adventure?
Simon
I'm now of the orange persuasion. Will you make some to fit the TT frames on my 640 adventure?
Simon
MrIFan
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WAREGS
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There is a seperate thread somewhere with a set on an 08ADV,they've done their proving and sholud be breaking cover soon,and you get everything you need to ride away with
this may take a while to find!
WAREGS
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Judge your a search Genius!
i blame the other threads being to interesting to find the one u want! still so many to read!
i blame the other threads being to interesting to find the one u want! still so many to read!
Got the Worldbeater panniers for my 1100 specifically for a trip across the USA. Shipped the bike out and unfortunately, the shippers had a slight accident whilst getting the bike off the boat
The guy rode off the boat no problem but then gunned the bike across the port, hit some gravel and crashed at around 35mph according to other people. The bike slid for about 100ft before coming to a halt almost upside down. The guy was in hospital for 4 days...... Anway, a claim is in progress but luckliy the damage to the bike was cosmetic and didn`t stop me doing the trip.
Point of this is, in mine, the shippers and the local BMW dealers opinion the only thing that stopped the bike being totalled were the strengh of the panniers and specifically the frame. The pannier suffered with obvious scrape damage and the frame was slighted buckled with LHS touching the exhaust. The BMW agent reckoned any other frames would have buckled completley and the panniers totalled with the possibility of bike frame damage. Also, the way bike landed, the panniers stopped more damage to save the tank. In fact, everyone was amazed the bike was good to go and I rode away!!
It doesn`t look like a lot of damage on the pics but that was dropped on tarmac at 35mph so proves the strength. Even with the damage, there was no warping so the lids worked OK and there was no leaks despite Hurricane Fays best efforts.
I also had a few moments on the Trans America Trail where the bike "rested" on the panniers with absolutely no damage, not even a scratch.
If you are in the market for panniers and want REAL strength and durability, you have to get these......no doubt
The guy rode off the boat no problem but then gunned the bike across the port, hit some gravel and crashed at around 35mph according to other people. The bike slid for about 100ft before coming to a halt almost upside down. The guy was in hospital for 4 days......
Anway, a claim is in progress but luckliy the damage to the bike was cosmetic and didn`t stop me doing the trip. Point of this is, in mine, the shippers and the local BMW dealers opinion the only thing that stopped the bike being totalled were the strengh of the panniers and specifically the frame. The pannier suffered with obvious scrape damage and the frame was slighted buckled with LHS touching the exhaust. The BMW agent reckoned any other frames would have buckled completley and the panniers totalled with the possibility of bike frame damage. Also, the way bike landed, the panniers stopped more damage to save the tank. In fact, everyone was amazed the bike was good to go and I rode away!!
It doesn`t look like a lot of damage on the pics but that was dropped on tarmac at 35mph so proves the strength. Even with the damage, there was no warping so the lids worked OK and there was no leaks despite Hurricane Fays best efforts.
I also had a few moments on the Trans America Trail where the bike "rested" on the panniers with absolutely no damage, not even a scratch.
If you are in the market for panniers and want REAL strength and durability, you have to get these......no doubt
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