Go keyless…..
XT2 - same mount as the XT1?
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Go keyless…..
For a locking mount to be any good it needs to wrap around
the unit ...Then it's a faf to take the gps off
If it uses the original mounting points and just locks the release button
it will be easy to wrench it off
Seconds to remove and put in pocket or helmet like I do
Then you know where it is and like Wapping said you can do a bit of planning
while you have a coffee
the unit ...Then it's a faf to take the gps off
If it uses the original mounting points and just locks the release button
it will be easy to wrench it off
Seconds to remove and put in pocket or helmet like I do
Then you know where it is and like Wapping said you can do a bit of planning
while you have a coffee
But hang on. As you've already said yourself, trying to tear it off will invariably damage 'something'... So I'm not entirely with your logic?
You think one that is 'wrapped' won't have an attempt made to tear it off? Presumably just because you're thinking it's so 'obviously' locked/secured?
You're not going to stop an attempt from the people we're mostly thinking would try and tear it off. But in real life, a lock is better than no lock. And if the lock is obvious, then you've deterred the vast majority - the opportunist.
I've tried your method for a number of years and it's a pita. I want to know that if those bodies who are sniffing around my moto while it's parked up outside a cafe/petrol station/shop etc. then I know it's not easy pickings.
And while I'm at it, I arrived at my solution for myself in the first instance. And what I can tell you is that the lock is accessible from the front unlike all the others, it's not a great heavy weight on the end of the frame/arm/fairing it's mounted to. I've looked at all the others because I wanted a lock. None of them offer the positioning, convenience and low weight of mine, which I find a bit surprising if I'm honest.
You don't have to lock yours. You can carry on detaching it every time. I'm not in any way trying to change what you're doing. But some of us out here would like something to make it more secure, in a convenient way
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When I see entire bikes abandoned to chance in the City, totally unsecured, I have never seen one owner leave their GPS unit in its cradle, whether secured or unsecured. Different priorities, I guess.
I do though see plenty of bods leaving their crash helmet, dangling on a wing mirror or sitting on their seat or hung on their footrest, whilst the owner is enjoying a coffee with likeminds at a cafe. One time, as a joke, I nipped away from a French cafe and ran a thin cable lock through an expensive helmet, left on one of the Wanderer’s bike whilst we had a coffee break. All this was done in plain sight of the owner of the helmet, who was engaged in bikermate banter. On returning to his bike, he couldn’t work out:
a. Whilst he couldn’t lift his helmet
b. How it had become attached by a cable to his bike
I told him that next time I’d just pinch it.
I do though see plenty of bods leaving their crash helmet, dangling on a wing mirror or sitting on their seat or hung on their footrest, whilst the owner is enjoying a coffee with likeminds at a cafe. One time, as a joke, I nipped away from a French cafe and ran a thin cable lock through an expensive helmet, left on one of the Wanderer’s bike whilst we had a coffee break. All this was done in plain sight of the owner of the helmet, who was engaged in bikermate banter. On returning to his bike, he couldn’t work out:
a. Whilst he couldn’t lift his helmet
b. How it had become attached by a cable to his bike
I told him that next time I’d just pinch it.
Not if you just flip the thing off and take it with you.So, a lock is better than no lock
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I don’t necessarily buy into the petrol station thing. Most of the fuel stations I seem to come across these days are card affairs, so you stand next to your bike anyway. Going away from the bike for any length of time, I take my tankbag, so I just lob the device into it. I have put a shoulder strap onto the tank bag, which makes it easier to carry, along with my crash helmet.
Whilst I am all in favour of locking things up, I can’t recall any reports of sat nav’s being pinched. Plenty of bikes, yes.
But hey, each to their own.
Sure. We must suit ourselvesNot if you just flip the thing off and take it with you.
I don’t necessarily buy into the petrol station thing. Most of the fuel stations I seem to come across these days are card affairs, so you stand next to your bike anyway. Going away from the bike for any length of time, I take my tankbag, so I just lob the device into it. I have put a shoulder strap onto the tank bag, which makes it easier to carry, along with my crash helmet.
Whilst I am all in favour of locking things up, I can’t recall any reports of sat nav’s being pinched. Plenty of bikes, yes.
But hey, each to their own.
Once you fit a sunshade to the XT, the "pop it off and put it into your bag" scenario stops being practical....and if the new XT2 is bigger still, then all the more so.
Yea, sure, lots of stations - especially in Europe - you can pay at that pump. But once you've done that but then want a little snack or something, bike gets left on it's own as you saunter into the shop...
For me it has removed one layer of hassle and anxiety. I do agree, I have not heard reports of them being stolen. But as above, it's a peace of mind thing. Something off the flippin list!
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I don’t have the sunshade thing…. Phew!
I don’t have the sunshade thing…. Phew!
Me neither - are they necessary?
They make a difference actually. I was all prepared to tear it off if it turned out to be just 'another piece of plastic'. But it has turned out to be better than I expected. Hence it remains!
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XT2 does not need a sunshade nice and bright ( nor does the XT IMHO )
I think a locking mount is much more of a faf than just taking it off
Another key to carry then you have to lock it on and unlock it ...FAF.. ( you would be a fool to leave it on the bike unattended and well out of sight even with a lock )
But there again i am not trying to sell locking mounts
I think a locking mount is much more of a faf than just taking it off
Another key to carry then you have to lock it on and unlock it ...FAF.. ( you would be a fool to leave it on the bike unattended and well out of sight even with a lock )
But there again i am not trying to sell locking mounts
In thousands of miles, I have never felt the need for one.
You don’t spend all day looking at the magenta line; a glance to tell you that the next significant alteration in the route is X miles is generally sufficient. The auto-zoom feature catches your eye, when the screen changes. This is all then enhanced by the voice instruction. For years I ran my GPS devices without voice instructions. However, the Bluetooth connections are now so good, that I have taken up using voice prompts. On the odd occasion that the sun does catch the device’s screen, I simply and briefly, shift my body position.
Bods’ home made solution to the sun hitting their screens, seems to be to make the screen’s resolution brighter and brighter. Whilst I have no proof of this, it seems to me that, making the screen ever brighter only leads to more bleaching out, when the sun does actually hit it, which is not that often.
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Same here on the sunshade. Never felt the need for one. The only case where the XT is unreadable is when there is full sun behind you pointing at the screen. But in that case the sunshade would be useless as it wouldn't block the sun at all.
Regarding the locking mounts... my two cents:
as said multiple times, I did quite a lot of offroading with the XT on its original mount and it doesn't move an inch. I also did quite a decent crash, still offroad, and the XT did stay on its mount. The entire mount moved (RAM ball) forward on impact. No damage whatsoever. Rearranged and went on my way.
Service stations: if there is no dodgy people around and I know I can be fast I just leave it... otherwise it takes a split second to remove it from the mount and chuck it inside the helmet as I go in the shop to pay.
Also, should be mentioned that most countries but the UK have "pay at pump facilities", so there is no need to abandon the bike.
I dream of the moment this will be adopted over here as well, so I don't have to wait in the queue for the bloke doing his weekly groceries in a fucking gas station, when I am in a rush and have to pay 20 quid of petrol and get on my way
Regarding the locking mounts... my two cents:
as said multiple times, I did quite a lot of offroading with the XT on its original mount and it doesn't move an inch. I also did quite a decent crash, still offroad, and the XT did stay on its mount. The entire mount moved (RAM ball) forward on impact. No damage whatsoever. Rearranged and went on my way.
Service stations: if there is no dodgy people around and I know I can be fast I just leave it... otherwise it takes a split second to remove it from the mount and chuck it inside the helmet as I go in the shop to pay.
Also, should be mentioned that most countries but the UK have "pay at pump facilities", so there is no need to abandon the bike.
I dream of the moment this will be adopted over here as well, so I don't have to wait in the queue for the bloke doing his weekly groceries in a fucking gas station, when I am in a rush and have to pay 20 quid of petrol and get on my way
On the later point, the dimwits (selfish pricks) of England will use the card pump to fill their vehicle. Then they’ll leave it at the pump to go to do their weekly shop.
I can go on for days complaining about UK petrol stations. But I’ll be benevolent and will spare you guys
And by the end of it all, that pancake will be so thick, that one will be able to add waypoints with one’s nose, whilst riding his awesome on the M25 enroute to the obligatory weekly Starbucks pilgrimage session.Well if it helps you can get an adapter to make it fit
You guys are all obviously up there in some league I didn't know existed 
. You must ask have bigger pockets than me 
Each to their own.
For the sun shade - probably not needed in the UK
. But for my cent's worth, the screen is too shiny...hence I thought I'd try a shade. But you lot wouldn't know about this cos you've never tried one. So, I'm just saying, they do a job...
As for the lock. It's not too hold it on during an off. It's to stop an opportunist and get one anxiety off my list. It works very well in this latter point.
I travel alone mostly. I don't have a whole posse around me. These little security details are important. Personally, I can't (don't want to) discover the hard way...it only needs to happen once. And there are quite a few other people who share my thinking. I don't share most of the thinking mentioned above ref locking the unit.
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. You must ask have bigger pockets than me 
Each to their own.
For the sun shade - probably not needed in the UK
. But for my cent's worth, the screen is too shiny...hence I thought I'd try a shade. But you lot wouldn't know about this cos you've never tried one. So, I'm just saying, they do a job...As for the lock. It's not too hold it on during an off
. It's to stop an opportunist and get one anxiety off my list. It works very well in this latter point. I travel alone mostly. I don't have a whole posse around me. These little security details are important. Personally, I can't (don't want to) discover the hard way...it only needs to happen once. And there are quite a few other people who share my thinking. I don't share most of the thinking mentioned above ref locking the unit.
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Bigger than wizards sleve and deeper than Santas sack...You guys are all obviously up there in some league I didn't know existed
Have you though about adjusting the angle of the mount, so that you do not get hassled by the sun?For the sun shade - probably not needed in the UK
As for the lock. It's not too hold it on during an off
You are referring to someones deeper pockets, which does imply, that you are poorer than a church mouse, yet you want to farkle up your awesome by means of splashing more cash...
, on top of that, you want to add even more weight, to an already excessively heavy steed, with the rest of the shite bolted on to it and a pile of clobber (assuming that you are a globetrotting type) that probably will never get worn, but just in case......I can't fathom your logic in either case.What about removing the XT from your bike, whilst you meander the streets of a chosen town, and shoving it into a chest pocket within your jacket, tank bag, or fannypack and hey presto, weigh saving on the bike and money saved for few more evening energy drinks.
You must have a safe place on your person for the phone, passport, bike docs, wallet keys.... or do you keep them on the bike whilst strolling the streets of a sleepy French village?
Go Figure!
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