You all told me.....

[Arsey]

Not busted at all. I put the picture on here, taking the piss out of myself. Not something that you or Arsey would be able to do.

And nothing at all to do with keeping your attention-seeking thread going !!

What’s next ? New forks ? Change the frame ?? Trigger’s Cube !!!

 

[Deleted account 220319001]

Will do. I’ll take the shock pump with me when I got out today, and have a play.

You'll soon bore of that, set it, forget it.

 

[Udders]

You'll soon bore of that, set it, forget it.

You can’t do that with a heavier emtb. Riding on gravel tracks and paths etc you need a certain pair of pressures but If you’re going to be more adventurous with a few smallish jumps and drop offs you have to up the pressures to accommodate the extra weight. All depends on the terrain you’re tackling.
Just chuck a shock pump in your rucksack and adjust it on the go. It only takes a few seconds and makes a huge difference to how the bike performs.

 

[stonehenge]

I have a Specialized Pump that is a tyre and shock pump in one.

 

[Nutty]

You can’t do that with a heavier emtb. Riding on gravel tracks and paths etc you need a certain pair of pressures but If you’re going to be more adventurous with a few smallish jumps and drop offs you have to up the pressures to accommodate the extra weight. All depends on the terrain you’re tackling.
Just chuck a shock pump in your rucksack and adjust it on the go. It only takes a few seconds and makes a huge difference to how the bike performs.

Agreed. I made the mistake of listening to Cabby, and left the pump at home.

It’s in the bag ready for tomorrow now, so I’ll have a play with the settings when I’m out.

 

[Walowiz]

Agreed. I made the mistake of listening to Cabby, and left the pump at home.

It’s in the bag ready for tomorrow now, so I’ll have a play with the settings when I’m out.

I used to take the shock pump when a group of us would go out to the hills, but only if one of us had a new bike, or we were having a play. Otherwise it’s just wasted weight & space in the rucksack that could be better used for energy jelly sweets

 

[Deleted account 220319001]

I used to take the shock pump when a group of us would go out to the hills, but only if one of us had a new bike, or we were having a play. Otherwise it’s just wasted weight & space in the rucksack that could be better used for energy sweets

Yup, pretty much my experience.

 

[DC]

i have a 625 Reaction cube eMTB/ Hybrid but a hardtail , no rear suspension, ( no shock pump to worry about), Couldn't really justify to extra £1000 + for the full suspension model for what i do on the bike. Its mainly used on gravel path and flat woodlands, no jumps or stunts. Its also only used once or twice a week ,due to using my Carbon road bike alot , And now Boris has said we can go further on them, it will be back to 100 pls mile rides on this. Really enjoy the e bike though as a leisure / lazy ride. Also very good into the headwind

local woodlands on the coastal path

 

[Udders]

i have a 625 Reaction cube eMTB/ Hybrid but a hardtail , no rear suspension, ( no shock pump to worry about), Couldn't really justify to extra £1000 + for the full suspension model for what i do on the bike. Its mainly used on gravel path and flat woodlands, no jumps or stunts. Its also only used once or twice a week ,due to using my Carbon road bike alot , And now Boris has said we can go further on them, it will be back to 100 pls mile rides on this. Really enjoy the e bike though as a leisure / lazy ride. Also very good into the headwind

local woodlands on the coastal path

Nice bike.
I’m guessing you don’t alter the pressure in the forks then?

 

[deksawyer]

I'm waiting on one of these?

https://www.bikeinn.com/bike/ergon-...GKnFpu0AA3WFVeUXMFjIyaNdEBc6JUvBoCnMIQAvD_BwE

I had the GF measure my sit bones (it was a right laugh, I then measured hers a bit later) and they're 11cm give or take a couple of mm.

 

[Wreford Miles]

I’m interested in the long ranges being quoted for these cube bikes, the latest being DC suggesting a 100 mile ride.

My Levo is 500 W so would be down a little but I’d say c50 miles would be my limit. You could make it go further through setting the assistance lower but there comes a point IMO when the joy of the bike is lost.

Is it to do with the new 2020 Bosch motor


Re shock pumps, change a little at a time and write it down - Do the same with tyre pressures.

I’m with Cabby it’s not something for the trail - Assuming it’s nearly right make your changes at home ride a few yards bouncing and getting the feel for it so you can gauge if the subtle change has had the change you were looking for and leave it.

 

[DC]

I’m interested in the long ranges being quoted for these cube bikes, the latest being DC suggesting a 100 mile ride.

My Levo is 500 W so would be down a little but I’d say c50 miles would be my limit. You could make it go further through setting the assistance lower but there comes a point IMO when the joy of the bike is lost.

Is it to do with the new 2020 Bosch motor


Re shock pumps, change a little at a time and write it down - Do the same with tyre pressures.

I’m with Cabby it’s not something for the trail - Assuming it’s nearly right make your changes at home ride a few yards bouncing and getting the feel for it so you can gauge if the subtle change has had the change you were looking for and leave it.

Hi Wexford. I was quoting I ride 100+ miles on my carbon road bike not the ebike.

I do have the latest gen 4 motor on the cube e bike and they do give good mileage though ..that depends what mode you ride in , I’m told in turbo I will get around 60 miles and in eco ( low setting ) I will get 80/90 miles.

 

[Nutty]

I’m interested in the long ranges being quoted for these cube bikes, the latest being DC suggesting a 100 mile ride.

My Levo is 500 W so would be down a little but I’d say c50 miles would be my limit. You could make it go further through setting the assistance lower but there comes a point IMO when the joy of the bike is lost.

Is it to do with the new 2020 Bosch motor


Re shock pumps, change a little at a time and write it down - Do the same with tyre pressures.

I’m with Cabby it’s not something for the trail - Assuming it’s nearly right make your changes at home ride a few yards bouncing and getting the feel for it so you can gauge if the subtle change has had the change you were looking for and leave it.

Do you ride with the assistance on all the time? If so, you’d get around 100 in Eco, 75 in Tour and 60-70 in eMTB. I don’t bother with Turbo much, as it doesn’t give me anything over eMTB. if you rode 50/50 assisted like I do generally, you should see 100 miles with eMTB mode.

 

[Wreford Miles]

Do you ride with the assistance on all the time? If so, you’d get around 100 in Eco, 75 in Tour and 60-70 in eMTB. I don’t bother with Turbo much, as it doesn’t give me anything over eMTB. if you rode 50/50 assisted like I do generally, you should see 100 miles with eMTB mode.

The Levo is not a bike to be ridden without assistance, you can set the assistance very low. This can be right down to a level where it just counters out the weight but before you get that low you pass the why am I doing this point.

The Levo is great as an EMTB it’s not as a normal bike.

I do most of my riding with it set at 35% which is a factory setting which I find gives me the buzz of an EMTB but still requires me to put effort in keeping my heart and lungs working.

If I’m doing a c25/30 Miles loop on good trails that I want to hammer around I’ll use a 35%-100% mode that matches my effort - With that I get a real buzz that’s up there with the EXC on green lanes

Turbo I’ll use for the odd step technical climb when again my goal is to fly up it - Those same climbs can just as easily be tackled in the 35% mode, it’s just some times the point of an EMTB is to wizz

So in short the only unassisted riding I do on the Levo is once I’m above the assistance level which on my Levo is about 18.5MPH

 

[Nutty]

The Levo is not a bike to be ridden without assistance, you can set the assistance very low. This can be right down to a level where it just counters out the weight but before you get that low you pass the why am I doing this point.

The Levo is great as an EMTB it’s not as a normal bike.

I do most of my riding with it set at 35% which is a factory setting which I find gives me the buzz of an EMTB but still requires me to put effort in keeping my heart and lungs working.

If I’m doing a c25/30 Miles loop on good trails that I want to hammer around I’ll use a 35%-100% mode that matches my effort - With that I get a real buzz that’s up there with the EXC on green lanes

Turbo I’ll use for the odd step technical climb when again my goal is to fly up it - Those same climbs can just as easily be tackled in the 35% mode, it’s just some times the point of an EMTB is to wizz

So in short the only unassisted riding I do on the Levo is once I’m above the assistance level which on my Levo is about 18.5MPH

I didn’t realise the Levo had to be on all the time. The great thing with the Cube is you can switch it off completely, and ride it like a normal MTB. A heavy one, but it’s doable! If I want a tough workout, I try and keep it switched off as much as possible, which is reflected in the calories burned stats.

 

[Davey B]

I can't believe Cube have only been going for 27 yrs. Daughter has a front susp from about 8 years ago and spec for spec it was way better value than anything else around....and they still seem to be doing that.

The company was founded 1993 by the former student Marcus Pürner, who began with an area of 50 m² in his father's furniture factory in Waldershof, Germany. The company has expanded its production area to 55,000 m² and sells to more than 60 countries all over the world

 

[(RIP) willstatt]

The Levo is not a bike to be ridden without assistance, you can set the assistance very low. This can be right down to a level where it just counters out the weight but before you get that low you pass the why am I doing this point.

The Levo is great as an EMTB it’s not as a normal bike.

I do most of my riding with it set at 35% which is a factory setting which I find gives me the buzz of an EMTB but still requires me to put effort in keeping my heart and lungs working.

If I’m doing a c25/30 Miles loop on good trails that I want to hammer around I’ll use a 35%-100% mode that matches my effort - With that I get a real buzz that’s up there with the EXC on green lanes

Turbo I’ll use for the odd step technical climb when again my goal is to fly up it - Those same climbs can just as easily be tackled in the 35% mode, it’s just some times the point of an EMTB is to wizz

So in short the only unassisted riding I do on the Levo is once I’m above the assistance level which on my Levo is about 18.5MPH

My Trek very similar.... no fun riding with the power off as too much hard work.... Depending on how energetic I feel, I tend to ride in Eco.... which shows 80-100 range... (but I've not tested that) If I'm doing some steep rooty climbs I like using turbo 'cos it's like going up on a 'crosser

In turbo mode it only shows about 30 miles range.

 

[Wreford Miles]

I didn’t realise the Levo had to be on all the time. The great thing with the Cube is you can switch it off completely, and ride it like a normal MTB. A heavy one, but it’s doable! If I want a tough workout, I try and keep it switched off as much as possible, which is reflected in the calories burned stats.

Switching the Levo between modes and including power off is very simple - The why you should do this is not strong enough, its not an enjoyable bike with no assistance. If I want to get the heart and lungs going from the off I just go faster from the off.

The Levo is very tuneable so potentially I could set up the three modes to give me say:


15% for road work to get me places

25% for the trails

35% - 75% for technical bits needing more assistance


Something like that might get me c60 miles if it had road work - right now my longest loop which has minimal road work and 2000+ ft plus of climbing is 38 miles and I'm doing the last mile or 2 in the red - A 700W battery would mean that 38 miles could be c55 miles but that's £1100!

Range is defiantly something I plan around

 

[tanneman]

Wreford, did you try the BLEvo app? Loads of settings and customisation but you can tailor the assistance to manage your heart rate. Unfortunately it is made for the Levo, Kenevo bikes, maybe for other Specialized bikes as they use the same motor and stuff.

Have a look. Found it while trawling YouTube looking at E-MBT.

 

[DC]

Nice bike.
I’m guessing you don’t alter the pressure in the forks then?

didn't know you could alter pressure in the forks !!! i can lock them or have them on spring ,then to use them with the forks working.