Your ISP Address?

[Banger]

Hi

My daughter has had some trouble on the web with security. It seems to be sorted now but what i would like to ask for the future is can a website like this one know your ISP address if you are not logged in?
I am just thinking as then logged into the site or not they always no your ISP address.Or perhaps you just have to be on the web ?Sorry its probably a basic question but a security important one.

 

[LiquidLAN]

yes the web site will always know your IP (ISP is the person/company that provides the service) address so that they can send the pages back to you...

think of it like a letter, if you dont include your return address you will never get a reply.

 

[Fanum]

Any site you're visiting can tell what your IP address is Banger, whether you're just visiting (not actually logged in) or if you're fully logged in under your user name. (it has to, or it wouldn't know it was 'talking' to your PC)

A site cannot see your IP address unless you go to it though, however there are ways people can find it if they look for you, as long as the PC is connected to t'internet.

People on Broadband are particularly at risk, because they tend to be permanently logged into their ISP.....Broadband providers have ranges of numbers, and because of this, people or programmes 'looking' for 'on' computers will often focus on these ranges specifically.

It's not as bad as it sounds though....as long as you have a firewall, it should stop anyone 'getting in' , and if you're running Anti virus software, you shouldn't be at risk of programmes that contain code that would otherwise make your own computer tell the baddies where it is (ie giving away its IP address)


On top of that, there's a limited amount that 'they' can do with just an IP address.....particularly if you're on Broadband, the chances are all someone will be able to do it track you to the Internet provider and a rough area...for example, all mine gives away is that I'm with NTL and it's based in their Bromley area (I'm actually in Dartford)



Just make sure you're running a firewall (if you're not, go HERE
and get the free version of Zone Alarm and install it right away.......and if you're not running anti virus software, get some right away as well
(THIS ONE is free and very good.)

The above is rather over-simplified, but hopefully it makes sense.....

The reality is, as long as you're sensible, you're pretty safe.......and there are enough unprotected PC's out there that if you have a firewall and it's set up properly, they'll piss off and go after an easier target


Just as a matter of interest, what where these 'security issues' ??

 

[Daithi]

Hi

My daughter has had some trouble on the web with security. It seems to be sorted now but what i would like to ask for the future is can a website like this one know your ISP address if you are not logged in?
I am just thinking as then logged into the site or not they always no your ISP address.Or perhaps you just have to be on the web ?Sorry its probably a basic question but a security important one.

I use Zone Alarm which has a Free-ware version here, I find it very good.
I wouldn't doubt for a second that sites you visit can see the IP address
but if you are assigned a new IP address each time by your service provider
automatically (DHCP) then I don't think it matters. Someone a lot more expert
will correct where I'm wrong.



(Edit): Will have to learn to type faster,BTW: IP-Lookup

 

[judge]

Just as a matter of interest, what where these 'security issues' ??

The Scandinavian teenage girl at your IP address has been exchanging fashion and music interests and desires to be a 'pen friend' with the teenage girl at Banger's IP address

 

[Fanum]

The Scandinavian teenage girl at your IP address has been exchanging fashion and music interests and desires to be a 'pen friend' with the teenage girl at Banger's IP address

Dammit, rumbled again

 

[Banger]

You no me to well Mr Judge from the old skool

The only picture of a scandanavian woman i have is of Freda out of Abba ......Just can't get over those Thighs...Like too....Stop there Banger this is a family site now not that seedy site when judge and paul where nippers

So you sussed me...OK well does that mean that the Abba fan club site can only see my ISP address only if i am logged on to their site as because i have only been there once or does it mean they have it noted in memory so it makes no difference whether i (sorry my daughter) am on their records.

On a serious note it is a problem because if they have her ISP address then it makes no difference if she logs onto that site or not but if they only get her ISP address when she logs on then she just won't.
There are some right tossers out there who are just hell bent on distroying peoples lives for the fun of it...What has happened to our society

 

[judge]

Right Mr Banger lets get this straight.

ISP = Internet Service Provider

The people who provide you the service of using the Internet, your broadband supplier.

IP Address = Internet Protocol Address

The address allocated to you to allow you to carry out your Internet business, data sent out from your machine identifies your IP address so the data you want to receive comes back to the right place.

Chances are your ISP (see above for definition) allocates your IP address (see above for definition) dynamically, usually a different one each time you connect to your broadband connection but from a pool of IP Addresses, so whenever you connect your IP address will be one of a range, yes different each time but always from the same range of IP addresses.

More importantly I can set up my website to extract from your PC all sorts of information which might be helpful to me in addition to the IP address, I can determine your operating system, your web browser, how you arrived at my site, how long you visited for, where you looked when you did visit and that when you visited you were sitting in front of the PC wearing Ally's undies.

I can also leave a calling card known as a Cookie on your machine and this helps me track your involvement with my site, now I may use this information to genuinely enhance your web browsing experience but I could do far worse if I desired.

Follow Fanum's general advice given earlier in the thread but if you have specific concerns then PM me rather than reveal too much publicly.

 

[Banger]

Ally is spelt Alli Mr Judge and i can tell your old skool as Knickers are only worn if your marriage is over.
Thongs are what they are called Mr Judge OAP.
Now for the record thongs really are not my thing as castration has a real danger of happening plus they dissapear up where the sun does not shine.

The only advantage to them is visiting the Khasi as its quick and cuts down (in more meanings than one) time on getting back to your pint but be careful as you may never be able to go again if rushed to much.

This is what i have only heard offcoarse.

Do you still meet at Eynesford as i pass the pub most days.Not had a BMW or any bike since my accident but i am building up courage again and hopefully next year i will be back on one after all its the only bike to have in my view and i miss it very much

 

[judge]

You're going to an awful lot of trouble to reinforce the understanding it is Alli who wears the thong and not yourself, so much so you've completely forgot why you started this thread, something else troubling you now?

We've been de-camped at the Pied Bull for the last few months while the Plough is closed for renovation. Same night, same time as always.

We do though these days seem beset by the no-shows of 'promisers' more so than we ever did when you were one

 

[Bigtwin]

...for example, all mine gives away is that I'm with NTL and it's based in their Bromley area (I'm actually in Dartford)

Tells me you are actually in SE Dartford, which is unusual for a Virgo of your age actually. Oh - and you need to pay that visa bill tomorrow or it's £36 of interest.

 

[Fanum]

Tells me you are actually in SE Dartford, which is unusual for a Virgo of your age actually. Oh - and you need to pay that visa bill tomorrow or it's £36 of interest.

You'd be averagely good at running dodgy seances you would

 

[Banger]

You're going to an awful lot of trouble to reinforce the understanding it is Alli who wears the thong and not yourself, so much so you've completely forgot why you started this thread, something else troubling you now?

We've been de-camped at the Pied Bull for the last few months while the Plough is closed for renovation. Same night, same time as always.

We do though these days seem beset by the no-shows of 'promisers' more so than we ever did when you were one

Now you have delved into the murky vaults of the forum i was thinking i actually signed up in 2002 but due to a techinical error i started again in 2004.
I remember just 3 sections in which my idea was 'Two packets of crisps and a fruit juice for the lady'.
Its amazing how much its grown in 5 years . What about Big nige and the Prof are they still about?

What was all this post about

 

[Dickieboy]

You no me to well Mr Judge from the old skool

The only picture of a scandanavian woman i have is of Freda out of Abba ......Just can't get over those Thighs...

I couldn't get between them either