Camille's big rebuild

sycomoto · Apr 15, 2010

Well today i've started the strip down on Camille

So far the tank and rear bodywork are off, the bevel box is off and i'm trying to fathom how the swingarm comes apart. It looks like the job may be a big un but i'm sure when its done she'll look splendid. I'll try to get some photos on later so you can see where i'm upto :thumb2

DevonianScotsman · Apr 15, 2010

Photos photos photos!

sycomoto · Apr 15, 2010

a few photos

here you go.

sycomoto · Apr 15, 2010

some pics of how she should look

from what i can see is there are different versions of the 84 bike, so here are a selection.

sycomoto · Apr 15, 2010

bugger......

and again.... This is what i want to return her too. just need a tank and water tank now :blast

MikeP · Apr 15, 2010

sycomoto said:
i'm trying to fathom how the swingarm comes apart.

Is that because you've not removed one before or because this one is somehow different?

I think that you've made life more difficult for yourself by removing the rear wheel and FD before undoing the gearbox output-flange to shaft UJ bolts (I'm only saying that as it looks as though the gaiter is undisturbed. My apologies in advance if that isn't the case).

sycomoto · Apr 15, 2010

you may be right

:blast

MikeP said:
Is that because you've not removed one before or because this one is somehow different?

I think that you've made life more difficult for yourself by removing the rear wheel and FD before undoing the gearbox output-flange to shaft UJ bolts (I'm only saying that as it looks as though the gaiter is undisturbed. My apologies in advance if that isn't the case).

i've sussed it now. i think its the standard type arrangment where its pins that lock the swinger in place. now i've just got to undo the shaft :eek

Rob Farmer · Apr 15, 2010

You can take the shaft out if you have a large vice and a bearing splitter (or a plate with a few holes in it). But it's probably easier to take it to a BMW dealer. Pidcocks chearged me £10 the last time they did one for me.

sycomoto · Apr 15, 2010

ah.....

doesn't just pull out then :augie

i guess a drive over to birmingham to clarks is in the offing then...

Sgt Bilco · Apr 15, 2010

You are going to need a grown up to help you with that I reckon

sycomoto · Apr 15, 2010

swing arm is out and

Rob Farmer said:
You can take the shaft out if you have a large vice and a bearing splitter (or a plate with a few holes in it). But it's probably easier to take it to a BMW dealer. Pidcocks chearged me £10 the last time they did one for me.

it looks like the shaft is easy to remove. Its fitted with the special hpn jobbie so all i need to do is grip it from the gearbox end and remove the 17mm nut at the other end and hey presto out it will come. it has none of the preload spring arrangment of the original.
next step is to remove the engine, can this be done with the gearbox in situe.

(RIP) pastyman · Apr 16, 2010

Si, get a manual, It will save you lots of time even though camile is different most of the way it is put together will be the same.

Mutley · Apr 16, 2010

If you are coming over here don't forget to drop in for a cup of tea and a piss take of the Shovel :thumb2

sycomoto · Apr 17, 2010

today i shall be mostly

re :confused:

moving the electrics, gearbox and engine. the frame will be off for stripping and powdercoating next week and the forks will be sent to a friend in crewe for a full rebuild next weekend. I'm going to give the engine and box the bicarb treatment to see if we can bring it all back like new so you never know she may be ready for a big unvailing at the wee-kend :thumb2

sycomoto · Apr 17, 2010

well she's just a bunch of bits now

been busy today, got the gearbox out this morning then engine out (not easy on yer own :eek

) then it was just a case of stripping bits off the frame, forks and yokes out and bobs yer uncle Ican now start delivering bits about the country for removation :clap

Rob Farmer · Apr 17, 2010

Absolute bitch of a job to get the engine out on your own with the starter motor, timing cover and cylinders all in place. I'm impressed. I bet your back aching now :comfort

sycomoto · Apr 17, 2010

naar not to bad

Rob Farmer said:
Absolute bitch of a job to get the engine out on your own with the starter motor, timing cover and cylinders all in place. I'm impressed. I bet your back aching now

just could have done with another pair of hands to steady the frame as i lifted, had one point where the engine was going one way, frame and forks going the other

used a spare leg to get it all back in line, musta looked like a wierd joga move

(RIP) pastyman · Apr 17, 2010

Rob Farmer said:
Absolute bitch of a job to get the engine out on your own with the starter motor, timing cover and cylinders all in place. I'm impressed. I bet your back aching now

I forgot to tell him that bit :blast

Rob Farmer · Apr 17, 2010

pastyman said:
I forgot to tell him that bit

Good to see he can rely on his Dad

sycomoto · Apr 19, 2010

All the bits went off today

loads of bits went to be stripped today :thumb2

so we can get on with the cleaning of the motor and gearbox now :clap

the only issue i've had and maybe someone of wisdom on here can help. The HPN cardon shaft is being a right royal pain in the arse. the top nut that holds the drive spline came off with no real issues but can i seperate the spline piece, like hell can i. i'm guessing its threaded not sure which way but i think its a clock wise cos that would make sense. The issue is gripping the bloody thing, with the UG in a vice i have no way of gripping the splined end with enough grip to turn it. Any ideas. :nenau

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