2 Dead

Every year is similar. It doesn't shock me at all. The same old "fast roads" and no doubt in weeks to come there'll be posts about what twats traffic cops are for doing bikers. :rolleyes:
 
Every year is similar. It doesn't shock me at all. The same old "fast roads" and no doubt in weeks to come there'll be posts about what twats traffic cops are for doing bikers. :rolleyes:

2 on a Sunday though, it'll make it more draconian for us all
 
The one at Lockton was right on the junction...proper mess...saw air ambulance landing...ended up going stape road....very few bikes out yesterday n still carnage.... :confused:
 
Dreadful news!

I have been riding since I was 15 and have now just turned 50 two weeks ago. I don't consider myself a "Biker" in the true sense of the word, but a rider or motorcyclist if you want to sound posher. My bikes are a daliance, I don't ride every day to work and back, my bike is not my only mode of transport, but a hobby which I love.

But unfortunately some bikers / riders are their own worse enemies. I ride a lot in N'Wales and you her about traffic cops pulling in bikes, harassment, etc I can honestly say I have never been stopped whilst riding a bike or a car for that matter. I have been overtaken at stupid speeds with bends approaching far too fast or with poor visibility ahead, lack of judgement, usually by sports bikes but not always.

I am deeply saddened by the loss of life and for the turmoil that the families, friends and loved ones will be going through.

We owe it to ourselves to take heed from this, to slow down a little, be a little more observant, not take too many risks, and hopefully live a little longer. At least thats what I intend on doing.
 
47 year old and 51 years old :nenau

They're not kids ... correction, they weren't kids

JB ... as we rode south towards Stang on Sunday a twerp on a RiceRocket coming towards Magnet, I was behind her ... came round a, what was to him a left hand bend, on the wrong side of the road, straight towards her :blast

He managed to get back to his own side, he was clearly fiddling with a GPS, camera, or trip ... I don't think it was excess speed!

I have it on video :D
 
47 year old and 51 years old :nenau

They're not kids ... correction, they weren't kids

JB ... as we rode south towards Stang on Sunday a twerp on a RiceRocket coming towards Magnet, I was behind her ... came round a, what was to him a left hand bend, on the wrong side of the road, straight towards her :blast

He managed to get back to his own side, he was clearly fiddling with a GPS, camera, or trip ... I don't think it was excess speed!

I have it on video :D

I saw that, i think.....the white one ??

It was the Police 4wd coming into blanchland that nearly got me as he was on my side of the bend, he quickly corrected his driving error :(
 
Sad to hear the all too familiar news shouldn't pre judge stuff though wait till the facts come out I agree some bikers are their own worst enemy but on the other hand (I didn't see you mate ) can be the cause . We just have to try and ride allowing for our own and others limitations
 
Sad to hear the all too familiar news shouldn't pre judge stuff though wait till the facts come out I agree some bikers are their own worst enemy but on the other hand (I didn't see you mate ) can be the cause . We just have to try and ride allowing for our own and others limitations

Without knowing what went on here, too many people hide behind that one I think. You just have to take extra care out there and try not to put yourself into a position which you can't control.

No matter what the cause, the police in that area will come down hard on bikers from now on.
 
To be honest I rarely go out for a ride at weekends owing to the risk from other bikers some of whom ride like utter prats and leave no margin for safety

We don't know the facts for these fatalities so don't know whether it was rider error or not so I'm not putting these riders into that category btw

The age of a lot of these fatalities lately seems to lend credence to the 'born again' biker group being most at risk
 
Without knowing what went on here, too many people hide behind that one I think. You just have to take extra care out there and try not to put yourself into a position which you can't control.

No matter what the cause, the police in that area will come down hard on bikers from now on.

That's what I was saying allowing for your own and others limitations you are also correct the Police will come down hard on Bikers in that area regardless of fault
 
I was young once

and immortal, a little non conformist and enjoyed the thrill of speed, luck got me through i'm sure. I'm 50 next year and a lot wiser than i was back then but it would be hypocritical to criticise the yoof of today for their risk taking lifestyles, so i don't, i enjoy their exuberance on youtube regularly.
I do struggle to understand folk of my age who think they're proving how quick they are on the streets but it's their choice, I value my life too much to go crazy on the roads but love riding too much to stop, so thats my point of compromise, so i ride with care on my 1150GSA :thumb2
A trackday bike is sometimes a very good investment.
Spare a thought for the innocents caught up in these events, the wives, children, grandchildren etc, all bereaved and struggling to come to terms with it.
 
47 and 51.....I am 48.
I don`t get it:confused:
I too, seldom ride at the weekend, too dangerous in my opinion.....I can work around cars, trucks etc, but knobbers on bikes are a law unto themselves.

It's the same old story every year, sadly......the chances are pretty high that these two are born again summer bikers and were on machines that bite......after a long winter lay up, a 140+BHP machine can be a very unforgiving toy. :(

Pure guesswork obviously, but it's an annual event
 
My thoughts are with those left to pick up the pieces (emotionally and physically).


Stay frosty you lot
 
Speed kills?

I've seen a lot of bad stuff over the years, and (as a life long biker) the incidents and images that impacted at the time, and now are most readily recalled are those where no blame could be attributed to the rider, or an indiscretion or minor lack of judgement resulted in a life changing injury to a motorcyclist, which in a car would have been a "Prang" discussed over a pint. One such incident was a (rush hour) RTA car v motorbike, of all places in the queue of traffic embarking onto The (Thames)Woolwich Ferry, the young sports bike rider braked so reflexively hard actually "Stoppied" and received full force to his spine.
The motorist was jumping the queue, the thud I actually felt, it was all at low speed, and the images are burnt into my brain from the CCTV I viewed many times at the site. The last event I nearly witnessed, I literally was the first bike on scene, smoke in the air wheels still spinning close. I had my hands full and was wondering what the group of people were doing in the hedgerow 30 metres up the road? This turned out to be his female pillion passenger, who survived him, but sadly lost her unborn baby. Rider not to blame. Most of the fatal or serious motorcycle accidents I was involved in often involved a lone rider who ran out of talent, and killed himself with little inconvenience to anyone, other than his Mum. My view is probably biased, but I have never liked the bad press motorcyclist have had over many years now, which has gelled into the public psyche, and unfortunately many Policemen who have grown up in this culture have now ascended on promotion to a "Policy Maker". Historically using sledgehammer to crack a nut strategies, and targeting a group of society, which would cause questions to be asked in The House, if say, owners of sports cars were treated equally. However, I'm pleased to see the Think Bike campaigns, and rider education, Bike Safe et al, but those most at risk are still in denial, and that little fat Twat (yeah you) who did my 80 year old Father in law on his trike for 36 in a 30! Other than insult you I'm lost for words. Except, maybe Use your power wisely Young-bloods and Old Plods and Old Tossers take a newbie under your wing, and show him how to have fun and make progress, SAFELY (watch out for that fat Twat of course). Fly the flag proudly for those who ride, don't be a Dick, lets try to change attitudes before the Eurocrats castrate us with motorcycle legislation, and young men will have to find other ways to kill themselves (and fat Twat get an erection). Speed (doesn't always) kill.
 
I've seen a lot of bad stuff over the years, and (as a life long biker) the incidents and images that impacted at the time, and now are most readily recalled are those where no blame could be attributed to the rider, or an indiscretion or minor lack of judgement resulted in a life changing injury to a motorcyclist, which in a car would have been a "Prang" discussed over a pint. One such incident was a (rush hour) RTA car v motorbike, of all places in the queue of traffic embarking onto The (Thames)Woolwich Ferry, the young sports bike rider braked so reflexively hard actually "Stoppied" and received full force to his spine.
The motorist was jumping the queue, the thud I actually felt, it was all at low speed, and the images are burnt into my brain from the CCTV I viewed many times at the site. The last event I nearly witnessed, I literally was the first bike on scene, smoke in the air wheels still spinning close. I had my hands full and was wondering what the group of people were doing in the hedgerow 30 metres up the road? This turned out to be his female pillion passenger, who survived him, but sadly lost her unborn baby. Rider not to blame. Most of the fatal or serious motorcycle accidents I was involved in often involved a lone rider who ran out of talent, and killed himself with little inconvenience to anyone, other than his Mum. My view is probably biased, but I have never liked the bad press motorcyclist have had over many years now, which has gelled into the public psyche, and unfortunately many Policemen who have grown up in this culture have now ascended on promotion to a "Policy Maker". Historically using sledgehammer to crack a nut strategies, and targeting a group of society, which would cause questions to be asked in The House, if say, owners of sports cars were treated equally. However, I'm pleased to see the Think Bike campaigns, and rider education, Bike Safe et al, but those most at risk are still in denial, and that little fat Twat (yeah you) who did my 80 year old Father in law on his trike for 36 in a 30! Other than insult you I'm lost for words. Except, maybe Use your power wisely Young-bloods and Old Plods and Old Tossers take a newbie under your wing, and show him how to have fun and make progress, SAFELY (watch out for that fat Twat of course). Fly the flag proudly for those who ride, don't be a Dick, lets try to change attitudes before the Eurocrats castrate us with motorcycle legislation, and young men will have to find other ways to kill themselves (and fat Twat get an erection). Speed (doesn't always) kill.

You'll never get on with an attitude like that ^^^^^^^. :augie

It is somewhat dispiriting to see how some of our own seemed to have assumed it was the fault of the bikers involved. As you say, repeat the message enough & it enters the National Psyche. Not just 'Idiot bikers' but so many other things as well.

The truth is, I can't say I've not been guilty of making the same assumption myself on occasion.
 


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