2020 KTM 1290 Superduke vs 2019 1250 GS-HP

Arsey - Run what you brung ! Look forward to see you...:thumb2
AS for the 1260 MS being shit - I'm with Stick ! The saddle is like a banana and forces you in a single position.Not good if you like to hang-off...As for the new Volkswagen V-4 Multistada which is an all new beast I like 170hp and 60K ilometres valve adjustment intervals :thumb2 But why only 125 nm torque as also still the bloody bicycle chain and stone age fork...:( But at least the De$mo B.S. as also belt driven cams costing high maintenance bills are gone...
All the GS needs is 170 hp which is easy for BMW while it is much harder for KTM and Ducati to convert their bikes to proper front-ends and drive-shafts....:D
2 more years and we get the M1300GS that will take care of all of it...:thumby:
 
Arsey - Run what you brung ! Look forward to see you...:thumb2
AS for the 1260 MS being shit - I'm with Stick ! The saddle is like a banana and forces you in a single position.Not good if you like to hang-off...As for the new Volkswagen V-4 Multistada which is an all new beast I like 170hp and 60K ilometres valve adjustment intervals :thumb2 But why only 125 nm torque as also still the bloody bicycle chain and stone age fork...:( But at least the De$mo B.S. as also belt driven cams costing high maintenance bills are gone...
All the GS needs is 170 hp which is easy for BMW while it is much harder for KTM and Ducati to convert their bikes to proper front-ends and drive-shafts....:D
2 more years and we get the M1300GS that will take care of all of it...:thumby:

I’ll be on this.

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1250 cc and 110bhp of P O W E R and exotica.
Hide now ! :-)
 
Arsey I thought you are a man of taste,wisdom,wealth,universal knowledge & character...;)But what is this ? I don't even know and I claim to know bikes...Some chinese made Benelli ? Even Joe Biden who is faker than a 3 $ George Washington would say...Arsey , come on...Are you taking cocaine...:D They probably quarantine that thing for 3 month before hey let it into te country when they see the Wuan0virus/made in china sticker...
Italian exotica going to Baja I thought you get the new VW Multistrada or a tractor like the MG V85 TT but what is this ? Clue me in...
B.t.w. if you really want to go there is a place in Tijuana where they rent out proper motorcycles as in GS-ADV for reasonable rates ! Only 1200 not 1254 though...But still faster than the Afrika Tween...:D
 
Arsey I thought you are a man of taste,wisdom,wealth,universal knowledge & character...;)But what is this ? I don't even know and I claim to know bikes...Some chinese made Benelli ? Even Joe Biden who is faker than a 3 $ George Washington would say...Arsey , come on...Are you taking cocaine...:D They probably quarantine that thing for 3 month before hey let it into te country when they see the Wuan0virus/made in china sticker...
Italian exotica going to Baja I thought you get the new VW Multistrada or a tractor like the MG V85 TT but what is this ? Clue me in...
B.t.w. if you really want to go there is a place in Tijuana where they rent out proper motorcycles as in GS-ADV for reasonable rates ! Only 1200 not 1254 though...But still faster than the Afrika Tween...:D

Sorry I had a typing error.It’s not 1250 cc and 110 bhp.
I meant to say 125cc and 11bhp :-)
Less is more,yanky doodle dandy :-)
You will never get it,ever.Which is a shame.
 
Arsey what is it ? Looking at the pipes it could even be a fake chinese made 2 cylinder NV Argosta...:D I hope you did not pay more than 2995 for it...;) Long time ago I paid $100 for a fake chinese Rolex and wore it until a chick told me how come your second hand does stop...I told her I had converted it to a japanese quartz for more accuracy...Needles to say I went home alone that night...;)
 
Less is more I agree with you Arsey...That is why I like simple german things like BMW-boxers,S1000RRs,Walthers,Leicas,Weihenstephaner Hefeweizen,Porsche 911 or Camaros with 6,2 L pushrod V-8's and 3 pedals on the floor...;)
 
How low can you go...From a shit 1290SDR to a fake 125 cc chinese made "Benelli"...What is the world coming too ?
But I guess even Harleys and Triumphs are made in Thailand...The 1% parties while 90% try to get by...:( Sounds like 1933 when Germany freed itself for 12 short years...:D Arsey you better bring your Honda to A-T otherwise by the time you get to C.S.L. there will be no Tequila,coca cola or hohos left for you...;)
Take the mask off a it is only a scamdemic toenrich the big pharma companies making billion$$$ of vaccinations that will kill us come retirement age to give additional billion$$$ to the banksters...:(
Brexit can't come early enough to have the Brits lead the way out of this mess...:thumb2
I hope you have deloused your fake Benelli...I don't you to get the wuan-flu Arsey !
If not for reasons of killing jobs and low wages they should not allow chinese imports to protect us from Covid...:D
 
How low can you go...From a shit 1290SDR to a fake 125 cc chinese made "Benelli"...What is the world coming too ?
But I guess even Harleys and Triumphs are made in Thailand...The 1% parties while 90% try to get by...:( Sounds like 1933 when Germany freed itself for 12 short years...:D Arsey you better bring your Honda to A-T otherwise by the time you get to C.S.L. there will be no Tequila,coca cola or hohos left for you...;)
Take the mask off a it is only a scamdemic toenrich the big pharma companies making billion$$$ of vaccinations that will kill us come retirement age to give additional billion$$$ to the banksters...:(
Brexit can't come early enough to have the Brits lead the way out of this mess...:thumb2
I hope you have deloused your fake Benelli...I don't you to get the wuan-flu Arsey !
If not for reasons of killing jobs and low wages they should not allow chinese imports to protect us from Covid...:D

I’ve never had a 1290SDR.
Is you on drugz, boy ? :-)
 
Arsey what I meant was that the whole thread went from how shit the 1290SDR is to the fake chinese made Benelli...;)
Fine italian machinery I thought you bought at least the new Aprilia RS660 or as a Honda lover the new Grom or at least the chinese knock-off called Gnom made by Londa....:D
You meet the nicest people on a Londa...:thumb
Drugz ? My drug is speed...White-line fever baby...:thumb
 
Arsey what I meant was that the whole thread went from how shit the 1290SDR is to the fake chinese made Benelli...;)
Fine italian machinery I thought you bought at least the new Aprilia RS660 or as a Honda lover the new Grom or at least the chinese knock-off called Gnom made by Londa....:D
You meet the nicest people on a Londa...:thumb
Drugz ? My drug is speed...White-line fever baby...:thumb

I was tempted by the RS660 but want to get g/f back on 2 wheels and she wouldn’t want to ride the Aprilia as too new and worried she drop it.
The Benelli is just cheap shit for me to fuck about on and hopefully for her to get her confidence on 2 wheels back.
I’m not a Honda lover.
I happen to own one,but I have 4 other bikes of various brands.I’ll buy what I feel like buying. No brand loyalty at all,which I guess you don’t understand,having bought the BMW blinkers and swallowed the pill.
 
No Arsey I did not have swallowed any pill but the 1250GS is the best bike for the road period as the S/M 1000RR the best for the track...I love boxers and S1000RR's for the track I admit and like BMW as it is a traditional german manufacturer that brought the fight back to the japanese and beat them in their own game...:thumby:
I also will say the R18 is fake and won't be a success because Harley guys will only buy Harleys and BMW guys will never buy Harleys that are heavy and underperforming but will buy them now because the cylinders stick out to the side and the belt is replaced by a driveshaft...As also a F750/850/900 with a chinese made motor is never a BMW but an embarrassment for a brand that starts with a B as in bayerische or berliner Motoren Werke...At least call that p.o.s C MW!
But I guess people will even buy fake Triumphs that are made in Thailand because it means more profit for the owners or stock owners.I would never buy a fake Thai-umph as a fake BMW with a taiwanese made engine.
As also I think BMW needs to get their heads out of their asses and bring us another sport-boxer in tradition of the R90S and later R1100S as the R1250RS with fork instead of Telelever sucks...If you ride a GS and then switch to a RS you know what I mean and then switch back visa versa on a test-ride you knew what I mean...
As also the new S1000R and XR should have 1100 or 1200 ccm to have more power and torque compared to their predecessors...See Arsey critique is were critique is due and even the GS is not perfect and should get 160 hp to have a more fun top-end as also the exhaust under the seat for 2 same size bags...Then it would be close to perfect...:thumby:
As also the R Nine T as nice as it looks and sounds the old R1200R was a much better bike with Telelever,factory luggage and centerstand...:thumb2
See Arsey you can accuse me of a lot of things but not of being a blind brand-centric fanboy as a lot of these Harley,Ducati and KTM clowns on their boutique brands who even tattoo the marketing B.S. and propaganda on their skin...
I just pegged you wrong that you were on of these Honda-Fanboys from the heydays when Honda build the best bikes and had the best quality and then you can see it is Marquez and not the bike that is the best as the same Honda under brother Marquez or Bradl who actually beat Marquez in Moto2 days is only good for last places...:D
While if you don't win on a GS you can only be a shit rider...;)
 
I admit and like BMW as it is a traditional german manufacturer that brought the fight back to the japanese and beat them in their own game...:thumby:

I guess people will even buy fake Triumphs that are made in Thailand because it means more profit for the owners or stock owners.I would never buy a fake Thai-umph as a fake BMW with a taiwanese made engine.
...;)

Bmw is far from traditional now and you do realise 75% of the components on your new GS are manufactured in China. Bmw like many other companies outsource and buy volume there assembly plant is the only German part in the process.
 
It's like an O.U. modual.

He's not the Messiah.
 
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Ding-Dong I realize a lot of components come from China unfortunately...But 75% it way to high as engines,frame,exhaust,electronics as fuel-injection/ABS/TC are sourced in Germany or europe...As far as I know the wheels come from China hence the recall with loose spokes...But the U.S. sourced Hayes calipers which feel better than the Brembos as in firmness/less freeplay can leak and I hear get replaced by Brembos on the 2021 recall...I just don't like stuff from China as it means lower wages for all of us.No CMW F750/850/900 for me...But Triumph is already in Thailand,as Harley produces there too which is a joke considering the prices they ask...Globalism...buy low sell high...:( I don't care if a japanese brand produces their lower cc bikes in Thailand as they are cheap bikes...But so called premium brands should produce in their homelands ! Everything else is fake...And I don't care if BMW makes their car engines in Austria or the U.K. even if I would prefer Germany because they are called Bavarian and not Austrian or British Motor Works but at least they are still made in europe and not some third world country to make a quick buck on the back of the workers for a few fat shareholders...It is time that the pendulum swings back in favor of the working man !
 
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You’ve changed your tune/stuck record !!!
I thought you wanted 170bhp and 17” wheels ?
Now 160bhp will make it perfect ? Are you lowering your expectations ?
 


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