2024 Himalayan 450
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Subscribed. Lets see what he can do. He's started well because I really don't know how to use a sewing machineJust come across this. It’ll be interesting to see how it compares to his other cold weather (extremely so) trips on his 1100 GS.
A good channel IMHO.
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I think I would have been on the bike heading South not North.Just come across this. It’ll be interesting to see how it compares to his other cold weather (extremely so
A good channel IMHO.
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Just to give the heads up on some deals on the Himmy 450. QB Motorcycles in Brierley Hill, West Mids, selling Kaza Brown for £5000 on the road and the Tubeless white for £5500. Bikes are brand new but will be registered 31st Dec 2024. Full 3 yr warranty.
Big savings that will help offset depreciation.
Big savings that will help offset depreciation.
friend in spain had a 411 and he trails it he liked it but has a 450 now with 7000 kms
i had a go on the 411 and while the weight was ok handled fine and the seat was good
the brakes and the oomph disapointed - we did 50 miles on mixture of roads
had a go on the 450 over the weekend and brakes are excellent did 80 ish miles this time - west from elche then turn right up the mountain if ya know it
but
when its on the side stand it seems to lean over quite a lot and that takes a lot to get upright - i have nc 750 and it doesnt seem as heavy even tho its a heavier bike
im 6 ft and 14.5 stone
friend happened to be on a 750x
riding position is fine although the front of the seat is narrow and makes me feel im sitting on a crosser - i feel sat on the bike rather than in it - nc doesnt do that
goes ok - forgot all about the no pull from high gears at slow speeds
but was sat on a dual carriageway behind at 85 and pinned it and it got to 105 110 quickly
got as far as 115 but its not the bike for that - werent sat cruising too much but it was f windy so werent going fast anyway (not on a foreign bike) although col asked after when we were watching barca real on tv did ya pin it
want to have a go on a guerilla now just to see how different it might be
650/750 might be good if its the twin not bored out single
edit: oh the clutch is light only had a few false netutrals in higher gears and the throttle was a bit light for me
i had a go on the 411 and while the weight was ok handled fine and the seat was good
the brakes and the oomph disapointed - we did 50 miles on mixture of roads
had a go on the 450 over the weekend and brakes are excellent did 80 ish miles this time - west from elche then turn right up the mountain if ya know it
but
when its on the side stand it seems to lean over quite a lot and that takes a lot to get upright - i have nc 750 and it doesnt seem as heavy even tho its a heavier bike
im 6 ft and 14.5 stone
friend happened to be on a 750x
riding position is fine although the front of the seat is narrow and makes me feel im sitting on a crosser - i feel sat on the bike rather than in it - nc doesnt do that
goes ok - forgot all about the no pull from high gears at slow speeds
but was sat on a dual carriageway behind at 85 and pinned it and it got to 105 110 quickly
got as far as 115 but its not the bike for that - werent sat cruising too much but it was f windy so werent going fast anyway (not on a foreign bike) although col asked after when we were watching barca real on tv did ya pin it
want to have a go on a guerilla now just to see how different it might be
650/750 might be good if its the twin not bored out single
edit: oh the clutch is light only had a few false netutrals in higher gears and the throttle was a bit light for me
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18 inch rear wheel ... hmmmmm? Fitting an 18 inch tubeless rim might make some sense even for touring?
The yanks were late to the 450 party but here’s my fav red neck vloggers take
I’ve just read through 34 pages of Himmy discussions and watched a lot of YouTube vids including comparisons with the CF Moto 450.
My mate is keen on the MT while I prefer the Enfield, we both have 1200 and 1300 gs’s and will be keeping them but like a lot of bods on here we’re tempted to get a couple of lighter bikes for farting around on.
Can some of you give an update on what you think of the bike after a year or more of real world ownership warts and all.
Cheers.
My mate is keen on the MT while I prefer the Enfield, we both have 1200 and 1300 gs’s and will be keeping them but like a lot of bods on here we’re tempted to get a couple of lighter bikes for farting around on.
Can some of you give an update on what you think of the bike after a year or more of real world ownership warts and all.
Cheers.
Ok. Warts?
1. For me the standard seat is too hard. I've endured it for a year and 7k miles (with a sheepskin) and I've finally contacted someone to sort it via a gel insert and memory foam.
2. There is a bit of tingle at around 5-6k revs. Nothing like as bad as some classic British twins but it's there. Then again you don't buy the bike for long trips at 70mph+. It will do them - I took mine to Berlin last year - but it'll do them a little slower if you want to avoid the tingles. Or just ride through them and grin and bear it.
3. Related to that, they lose the offside hain adjuster. I now keep mine in a tool tube along with chain lube and only use it only when adjusting the chain.
4. Switchgear is less than ideal ergonomically but the quality is ok. A minor irritation imo. The digital dash is overly complicated but there are shortcuts which you get to know. I never or very very rarely use the mapping function as I have my old gps fitted to the front protector bars.
5. Weight? It's not light but like BM boxers, it is well balanced carries it well, once going. The side stand needs lengthening. I used an ice hockey puck and a cheap Chinese "shoe".
That's about it!
Positives?
1. Mine was an early model which I bought as a cancelled order. Other than the issues above, it's not given a moment's concern. Some users complian about various issues which makes me wonder if mine was more carefully chucked together. Or maybe it's just that you never hear from satisfied owners? I tend to think it's the latter.
2. Handling and roadholding are first class.
3. OEM tyres are excellent otr. I don't use mine off road.
4. Petrol consumption is in the high 80s to low 90s mpg.
5. Power is perfectly adequate one up. Fully loaded with camping gear, it will overtake anything (at legal speeds), quite comfortably.
For the money, it's quite a bike and when I pass people on £20k+ GSs, I ask myself - are they getting 3 or 4 x the pleasure I'm getting?
I don't think so!
Thanks Pete, doesn’t sound like any real dramas then, I’m going to nip up to the Perth dealer at the end of the week and organise a test ride as they are nearer to me in Cowdenbeath.
I try to avoid the bridge and Edinburgh bypass as much as possible unless it’s in the middle of the day when things are a little quieter. ( if only they had spent some money on a link road to Newbridge
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I know you bought from a dealer near the borders, who are they?
I try to avoid the bridge and Edinburgh bypass as much as possible unless it’s in the middle of the day when things are a little quieter. ( if only they had spent some money on a link road to Newbridge
)I know you bought from a dealer near the borders, who are they?
Bought my Kamet white one from a subscriber on here.
Goes surprisingly well, much to the amazement of other riders.
Ultimate addons heated grips fit perfectly
Fitted the Enfield rad guard lower crash bars and belly pan.
On my one and only off road venture (on stock tyres) only got a little stuck once.
Fun factor, value make it difficult to beat
Goes surprisingly well, much to the amazement of other riders.
Ultimate addons heated grips fit perfectly
Fitted the Enfield rad guard lower crash bars and belly pan.
On my one and only off road venture (on stock tyres) only got a little stuck once.
Fun factor, value make it difficult to beat
Cowdenbeath!Thanks Pete, doesn’t sound like any real dramas then, I’m going to nip up to the Perth dealer at the end of the week and organise a test ride as they are nearer to me in Cowdenbeath.
I try to avoid the bridge and Edinburgh bypass as much as possible unless it’s in the middle of the day when things are a little quieter. ( if only they had spent some money on a link road to Newbridge
I know you bought from a dealer near the borders, who are they?
I went to Hollywood in Dumfries. Good people.
PS Quite literally, two of my best friends are Fifers.
We might have long spoons, but most of us are quite respectable 
My pal uses the RE dealer in Hollywood near Dumfries. He rates them highly.
I'm not knocking this bike in particular.
But I'll share a view that I've been peddling for the last decade since the invasion of third world adventure bikes.
They're cheap. £5000 ish. Which is always their main compliment.
But they're also built to a budget. With questionable quality control.
The faults are known and tolerated due to the price. Such as poor suspension, excessive weight, low quality components, discomfort and watching them turn ginger in a couple of years rather than decades...etc
So it always blows my mind why people who want a cheaper or second bike don't just buy a superb, refined, high quality, tried and tested used bike for the same money.
Then there are no faults to tolerate for the price point. Just enjoyment.
£5000 buys a five year old Japanese bike that will likely last FOREVER if maintained. Which was built with high standards using quality branded components by experienced companies with great after sales and support.
A five year old Yamaha T7 with feck all miles is the same price. But twice the bike performance wise and five times the quality.
And just consider all the other amazing bikes in the used market for £5000.
It makes zero sense to me...
Just my tuppence worth...
But I'll share a view that I've been peddling for the last decade since the invasion of third world adventure bikes.
They're cheap. £5000 ish. Which is always their main compliment.
But they're also built to a budget. With questionable quality control.
The faults are known and tolerated due to the price. Such as poor suspension, excessive weight, low quality components, discomfort and watching them turn ginger in a couple of years rather than decades...etc
So it always blows my mind why people who want a cheaper or second bike don't just buy a superb, refined, high quality, tried and tested used bike for the same money.
Then there are no faults to tolerate for the price point. Just enjoyment.
£5000 buys a five year old Japanese bike that will likely last FOREVER if maintained. Which was built with high standards using quality branded components by experienced companies with great after sales and support.
A five year old Yamaha T7 with feck all miles is the same price. But twice the bike performance wise and five times the quality.
And just consider all the other amazing bikes in the used market for £5000.
It makes zero sense to me...
Just my tuppence worth...
You’ve not ridden the 450 or too many of the latest offerings from Royal Enfield, I guess?
I’ve all but given up riding my 1600 uber-panzer, in favour of my 450. That’s not to say that a second or third or even fourth hand 1600 is not a very good bike.
I’ve all but given up riding my 1600 uber-panzer, in favour of my 450. That’s not to say that a second or third or even fourth hand 1600 is not a very good bike.
I have to admit that I have not ridden the 450.
Although I've had the displeasure of working on the earlier models.
In my line of work, I come across all sorts of Enfields and all of the new Asian rebrands.
My solid opinion is that you get what you pay for. Or if you can wait a few years, you can get what someone else paid for for half the price
I was tempted to start a new thread based on the above comments but I’ve only got a couple of comments to make:I'm not knocking this bike in particular.
But I'll share a view that I've been peddling for the last decade since the invasion of third world adventure bikes.
They're cheap. £5000 ish. Which is always their main compliment.
But they're also built to a budget. With questionable quality control.
The faults are known and tolerated due to the price. Such as poor suspension, excessive weight, low quality components, discomfort and watching them turn ginger in a couple of years rather than decades...etc
So it always blows my mind why people who want a cheaper or second bike don't just buy a superb, refined, high quality, tried and tested used bike for the same money.
Then there are no faults to tolerate for the price point. Just enjoyment.
£5000 buys a five year old Japanese bike that will likely last FOREVER if maintained. Which was built with high standards using quality branded components by experienced companies with great after sales and support.
A five year old Yamaha T7 with feck all miles is the same price. But twice the bike performance wise and five times the quality.
And just consider all the other amazing bikes in the used market for £5000.
It makes zero sense to me...
Just my tuppence worth...
The Honda CRF 300 may be considered a direct competitor to the Himalayan although the 450 Himmy has a lot more power. No personal experience of either bike but apparently the CRF is very poorly suspended, doesn't weigh significantly less than the Himmy yet still sells for around the same money as a new Himmy after 4 years of being thrown at the countryside.
Chinese made bikes still suffer from variable quality control but this is not a criticism directed at Royal Enfield especially with the more recent models. Even so, non Jap Asian bikes are improving all the time and, whilst they may have been rubbish 10 years ago, they’ve come on to the point that they are serious competitors these days.
I’ve owned a couple of KTMs which are fine when new but I’ve have found to my cost that they’re mostly plastic which is how they keep the weight down, making them very fragile, but like the Hondas still sell for silly money secondhand - buyer beware.
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