Africa Twin is coming

[Rob Farmer]

How do you know that then?

I think it's got huge potential. Dct is brilliant on and off road if you go for that option and 93bhp is more than enough power for a usable bike add in the 270 crank and there's a lot of potential for a nice bike.

Strangely I'm considering buying one of these but wouldn't entertain a BMW or Ktm. I will wait to have a test ride first though.

 

[Melch]

I don't ....just a hunch

A few bods will rush out & spunk £11k on it because it's the emperor 's new clothes

Realise it's just another parallel twin & hasn't lived up to the hype (remember vfr1200?)

Then realise that a f800gs is better parallel twin at £2k cheaper or the 1050 KTM is a proper Vtwin (in the spirit of the original AT) and again £2k cheaper

I am failing to see anything radical in the new AT whatsoever - all the other manufacturers have already done it & have been for the last 2-5 years

The new AT has sucked a few in, just to have their ego's stroked because it's a new model to be seen riding & that is the square root of it - vanity

Blimey...it's only a motorbike

 

[Wrinkly]

It's going to have to be good to beat the KTM 1050...IMHO of course

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

Blimey...it's only a motorbike

True - but the way people are talking it's being hailed as the new Messiah of fucking Adv bikes

Get over it, it ain't

 

[Melch]

True - but the way people are talking it's being hailed as the new Messiah of fucking Adv bikes

Get over it, it ain't

Oh I am over it, really I am.

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

Oh I am over it, really I am.

I knew you would be

It's the rest that are feting it

Xrv forum is creaming it

 

[Neil W]

Old AT was never powerful or on paper the best in class but it was cracking to use on the road , same as the the r1150gs was always a porker with 85 bhp and again a superb bike to run so how can the new AT be slagged off for only having 93 bhp.

As for Honda UK holding back on detailed information , the sceptic in me thinks perhaps they are going to wait as long as possible to judge the level of demand before fixing the final price

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

The original AT was a heavy slow slug, whose suspension was dire & which had the worst seat on any bike I have ever owned

In 1996 the 1100 GS I bought new to replace it, totally & utterly eclipsed it in every way

Plus the paint finish & build quality on the BMW was far superior to the Honda of the same era

 

[Captain Black]

The original AT was a heavy slow slug, whose suspension was dire & which had the worst seat on any bike I have ever owned

The 1100 GS I bought new to replace it, eclipsed it in every way & the paint finish & build quality on the BMW was far superior to the Honda of the same era

Yeah but it's analogue man ... analogue .

I'm just not getting the high tech biker these days. More buttons on handlebars these days than on flight deck of Ark Royal.

My AT ( 2003 ) in red, white and blue only has 2.3 k miles from new.

I love it , just can't ride it cos the seat hurts my bot. But hey who gives a shit its brill.

If I were to use it anything like regular I'd change the seat, beef up the suspension .. Then heck what a great bike.

I like old school. Even though 2003 is that long ago really.,

I'm sure the new AT will be nice, but I'm betting big money ie circa 12k

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

Yeah but it's analogue man ... analogue .

I'm just not getting the high tech biker these days. More buttons on handlebars these days than on flight deck of Ark Royal.

My AT ( 2003 ) in red, white and blue only has 2.3 k miles from new.

I love it , just can't ride it cos the seat hurts my bot. But hey who gives a shit its brill.

If I were to use it anything like regular I'd change the seat, beef up the suspension .. Then heck what a great bike.

I like old school. Even though 2003 is that long ago really.,

I'm sure the new AT will be nice, but I'm betting big money ie circa 12k

You're right CB, they have a charm for sure as do all older bikes

Hell - I ride 1150's bought at a time when you could only choose abs or heated grips as a factory extra & that was your lot

Life was much simpler

 

[Rob Farmer]

You're right CB, they have a charm for sure as do all older bikes

Hell - I ride 1150's bought at a time when you could only choose abs or heated grips as a factory extra & that was your lot

Life was much simpler

The 1150 is a high tech nightmare of electronics compared to most bikes I ride

 

[enabb]

The original AT was a heavy slow slug, whose suspension was dire & which had the worst seat on any bike I have ever owned

In 1996 the 1100 GS I bought new to replace it, totally & utterly eclipsed it in every way, once I,d fitted Ohlins and a Corbin seat.

Plus the paint finish & build quality on the BMW was far superior to the Honda of the same era

Fixed FOC .....

 

[strod]

I really wanted this new AT to wow me, just as another potential option, but I can't help agreeing with the earlier post that on paper it's nothing new, all been done before. Perhaps it will be better in the flesh, but only at the right price. It sounds like a sub £10k bike on paper to me, but I bet it's not that in reality, for the UK market anyway...

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

Fixed FOC .....

Ian you're not quite correct...............I never fitted one extra to my 1100GS, no Ohlins or Corbin.......................just rode it stock

The 1150's are a different story

 

[Madmountainman]

Nope the 'final edition' stood unsold in 2002/3 in showrooms, for months as did the Varadero last models

Can't understand the original AT hype, I had one in 1996 new and it was heavy/vague and dived liked a hooker giving a blowjob, totally underpowered at 60bhp and that seat - it should have been in a KGB interrogation room

Once anyone had a test ride on a 1100GS, it was light years better, in all quarters

I never bought one as, when I sat on it, the seat was hopeless and I couldn't get my knees in behind the tank. It looked nice - at the time - but then, as JB says, MBW launched the 1100. On to the new one and Honda had every opportunity to launch something more radical than the generic crap that's currently out there. Had they taken the CRF Rally bike and put a non-race engine in, added comfy seats and the usual legal road requirements, they'd have been on to a winner IMHO. KTM could've done the same with the 690 Rallye and didn't. They pulled the old 640 with no replacement for a good few years to 'focus more on road/sport bikes' at the time and then had to play catch-up massively. Now they've gone OTT and they only produce a generic looking Adv Bike to suit the masses. When the revised Adventure came out I reckoned it looked very much like the Kawasaki KLV which never sold well, but then… it didn't have KTM written on it.

 

[Davy F]

Xrv forum is creaming it

You want to read what they're saying on the Advrider forum, or rather, you probably don't....

I can't at the moment as I've just been banned.......

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

You want to read what they're saying on the Advrider forum, or rather, you probably don't....

I can't at the moment as I've just been banned.......

What did you do?

In reality, i'm looking forward to it, anything from Honda is pretty good & never radical

I have 2 Honda's in the garage, drive a Honda - so I like what they do

Pity the original AT, didn't float my boat

 

[cookie]

i'm looking forward to it, anything from Honda is pretty good & never radical

you make it sound so exciting

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

you make it sound so exciting

I don't do radical................as well you know

 

[Davy F]

I know the hype (from Honda) is all about a game-changer. The only game-changer I see is DCT adapted for off-road riding. Ultimately, it's just another large(ish) Adventure style trailie which will come with the perceived Hondaness of reliability/quality. I think it's the best looking Adv styled bike to come to the market for some time and I'm sure it'll do everything it says on the Honda tin.