mickyp28
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Wonering if anyones used one of these 1080p helmet camera's just seen one on ebay in the uk for £260 and don't know if they're any good.
Dave The Driver
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Wonering if anyones used one of these 1080p helmet camera's just seen one on ebay in the uk for £260 and don't know if they're any good.
LO-IQ will be along soon
(Carl is the man
)saw these at their stand at TT this year, i was not impressed. Average picture quality, no real improvement on my £9.99 eBay special!
Heavy, and very overpriced in my opinion. To be fair, it did feel well made.
Heavy, and very overpriced in my opinion. To be fair, it did feel well made.
Stevie73
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to be honest with you, if you're going to use it for riding footage, at full HD it only records at 30 frames per second, meaning the faster you are travelling, the less detail it is recording. Reducing the pixels gains higher frame rates which are better for high speed recording.
I had one. It was OK I suppose, but I wasn't keen on the lens angle TBH. It was a tad too wide. Basically, unless you can find a cam that'll record full HD at 50plus FPS......then the HD is a waste of money.
For all the footage I seen of helmet cams, I think the POV cameras are amongst the best results.....
As mentioned, Lo-Iq is the man...
I had one. It was OK I suppose, but I wasn't keen on the lens angle TBH. It was a tad too wide. Basically, unless you can find a cam that'll record full HD at 50plus FPS......then the HD is a waste of money.
For all the footage I seen of helmet cams, I think the POV cameras are amongst the best results.....
As mentioned, Lo-Iq is the man...
I think it's a cameraman's camera if that makes sense, I would say the 720P is cheaper and for webbased stuff could actually be better as the maths works smoother when your converting the files. Plus you get more footage on the card.
you can over crank the 1080p which means slowmotion looking shots but you need to know when to use the effect. 60fps at 1280x720p which is still very good quality.
What do you want to know? specifically?
We also use the GoproHD, the Kodak Z1, the flip, a jvc clone of the flip.
each has benifits each has faults....
they all have wide angle lenses, they all shoot at 30fps... some have extra mic inputs I think that a good feature. they all record MP4 files some have funny codec, we use them with FCP and Avid Media composer or a Nitrous and get pretty good results.
but you can buy quicktime pro for about £50 and use that as an editing package and it's cross platform....
PC or mac
anything else?
you can over crank the 1080p which means slowmotion looking shots but you need to know when to use the effect. 60fps at 1280x720p which is still very good quality.
What do you want to know? specifically?
We also use the GoproHD, the Kodak Z1, the flip, a jvc clone of the flip.
each has benifits each has faults....
they all have wide angle lenses, they all shoot at 30fps... some have extra mic inputs I think that a good feature. they all record MP4 files some have funny codec, we use them with FCP and Avid Media composer or a Nitrous and get pretty good results.
but you can buy quicktime pro for about £50 and use that as an editing package and it's cross platform....
PC or mac anything else?
Stevie73
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Yes. What is the square root of the square root of 89?
Don El Eee
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3.07147866 I think.
can't help with that my school didn't believe in teaching maths or any of that fangled new stuff....
Dave The Driver
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F.F.S. hes good :cool
RCH
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I have the Contour 720P and like it. I have not settled on any editing software yet.
http://www.r1200gs.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2428
http://www.r1200gs.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2428
the problem with becoming an expert you actually know more and more about less and less...
I have Steve's old one and like it a lot. I like the wide variety of mounting options plus I have made some more. I find it easy to operate on the bike and battery life is good. However the built in microphone is useless for on bike stuff as it picks up so much wind noise. There are tips on the internet about how to add an external mic but for the moment I have just taped some microphone foam around the mic hole and that has helped reduce the wind noise.
While on holiday I currently use mine set to Fast SD WVGA (848x480 @ 60fps) and find this works well for the stuff I am doing (on bike, on helmet, theme park rides, Tobbogan run etc). I get just over 30 mins per GB at this setting, which also imports and and is viewable on my iPad. I find the angle of view is fine for me and today I was able to see deep down into steep valleys while on the Stelvio and Timmelsjock passes.
I have still a lot of experimenting to do with the camera but apart from the mic, I like it a lot.
While on holiday I currently use mine set to Fast SD WVGA (848x480 @ 60fps) and find this works well for the stuff I am doing (on bike, on helmet, theme park rides, Tobbogan run etc). I get just over 30 mins per GB at this setting, which also imports and and is viewable on my iPad. I find the angle of view is fine for me and today I was able to see deep down into steep valleys while on the Stelvio and Timmelsjock passes.
I have still a lot of experimenting to do with the camera but apart from the mic, I like it a lot.
mickyp28
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Thanks a lot for all your input guys i have been sifting through youtube and to be honest i think the footage looks quite good, plus the fact i have been told that youtube scales down the quality a bit. Anyway Ive bit the bullet and bought the 1080 version on ebay as i like the idea of having the extra modes. Should hopefully arrive tomorow ill let you know how i get on and post some videos when it arrives
cheers
Michael
cheers
Michael
to be honest with you, if you're going to use it for riding footage, at full HD it only records at 30 frames per second, meaning the faster you are travelling, the less detail it is recording. Reducing the pixels gains higher frame rates which are better for high speed recording.
I had one. It was OK I suppose, but I wasn't keen on the lens angle TBH. It was a tad too wide. Basically, unless you can find a cam that'll record full HD at 50plus FPS......then the HD is a waste of money.
For all the footage I seen of helmet cams, I think the POV cameras are amongst the best results.....
As mentioned, Lo-Iq is the man...
Hey chap
I took a look at the POV cameras - they do look good but they seem limited to only 30fps. How does it manage better footage??
PS: see you tomorrow, gonna bring a trailer
GunZenBomZ
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Got two ContourHD1080p units & waterproof mounts.
Used all the time for my Europe trip (ride-report section). I will be posting my vid's on my youtube account. Linkage below; I prefer using 720@60fps mode for daytime, 720@30fps for low light/evening light.
Plenty of threads on here about this kit. Its the bllks imo & I've gone through plenty of cameras.
Used all the time for my Europe trip (ride-report section). I will be posting my vid's on my youtube account. Linkage below; I prefer using 720@60fps mode for daytime, 720@30fps for low light/evening light.
Plenty of threads on here about this kit. Its the bllks imo & I've gone through plenty of cameras.
GunZenBomZ
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It's all good, I'll play devils advocate as such.
3 things 2 know.
Youtube limits videos to 30fps. So my brilliant clear sharp 60fps footage is ruined by halving the frame rate.
Vimeo, doe's not limit fps.
Or even better try the main ContourHD video site prehaps ..http://www.vholdr.com/
not exactly true the algorythmic codec causes a few problems yes but if you convert to a H.264 compliant codec youtube is fine nobody will ever know, the problems of mixing sources becomes more of an issue if you mix any bullet camera with regular camcorder footage as it'll look like it's strobing. (even if you do the conversion) however cut agressively in late out early make the footage the best it can be rather than the longest most boring crap on the planet.
the conversion is futher compromised as it's not really 30 fps it's actually 29.97 fps but let's not split hairs on that issue it does make a difference. take my word for it, you could use pro-coder to drop it all to a standard frame rate before the edit. But will anyone really give a monkey's...
these camera's allow you to get footage that a few years ago was impossible, use them with care and creativity and you have a hell of a cool toy....
the conversion is futher compromised as it's not really 30 fps it's actually 29.97 fps but let's not split hairs on that issue it does make a difference. take my word for it, you could use pro-coder to drop it all to a standard frame rate before the edit. But will anyone really give a monkey's...
these camera's allow you to get footage that a few years ago was impossible, use them with care and creativity and you have a hell of a cool toy....
mickyp28
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Arrived this morning and so far so good havent tested it on the bike yet but tested out the different modes around the house looks really good when i upload it on to my laptop. ill post some videos later today when i have had a go on the bike.
Riders Rest
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you must have the first prototype 720i (interlace) that came off the production line then.... they only make'em in p (progressive)
the footage does look good by the way!
the benifits of the higher frame rate means two things you get more stable images (less camera shake) you can also use some cool software to add effects which will look better on 1280x720. It's almost if the manufacturers added some upscale algorythm to make it 1920x1080 which causes more faults later down the line. When you want to change resolution when mastering files.
they only make'em in p (progressive)the footage does look good by the way!
the benifits of the higher frame rate means two things you get more stable images (less camera shake) you can also use some cool software to add effects which will look better on 1280x720. It's almost if the manufacturers added some upscale algorythm to make it 1920x1080 which causes more faults later down the line. When you want to change resolution when mastering files.
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