Anyone using a Lithium battery?

[Slipperyeel]

A little scary how quick the time flies but I'm reading the above posts and realising I'm now into 5yrs with a lithium battery, which I would describe as having been really great. At this current time, it's doing its job exactly as it did from new.

The foible mentioned above ref they cold/low temperature is true - though 12°??!! Since when was 12° low temperature? Minus temperature yes, not 22°+

Anyway, my message is, they work. Since fitting - bar minus temperatures - it starts with a punch every time. I've never yet looked at the starter motor, though as a part of general maintenance, I probably should.

I still don't get people poo pooing the weight saving

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[Mark Hooton]

Hi there, been running a LiPo for a few years now (NN very kindly asked me to do some reviwing work on it - I think I even did a YouTube post on it?).

Anyhoo - can throughy recommend one along wth a correct charger (!). Much lighter, I did have my worries over the `lack of substance` but been running my 2014 GSA on one for ages now.

I did buy one a few years ago tho and it was crap.....................

 

[Billy4fr]

Personally I'd stick with a decent AGM ( Glass matt) battery. The weight saving on a 240Kg+ bike is neither here nor there. I've always found them long lived (5 yrs plus) and never any issues with cold cranking plus doing my bit to ensure one less person dies mining and processing toxic lithium . I think we've become over reliant in Li-Ion Batteries and at an accelerated environmental and human cost which many people conveniently forget. Varta do a good range. Been using them for years on my bikes and no complaints.

Disagree! My GS got a front end and lost its rear end when I took all the crap off. Listen to Chris Birch on tyres alone ... the new Mitas Enduro Trail +.

 

[Morety]

I have no idea what your comment was actually trying to say there in relation to batteries. As far as tyres go, I rely on what I think, not what on others think

 

[GB.]

I have one of those anti gravity type jump starters, I presume you wouldn’t be able to use that on a lithium equipped bike?


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[Berin]

I have one of those anti gravity type jump starters, I presume you wouldn’t be able to use that on a lithium equipped bike?


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I used mine to jump start my lithium battery equipped HP2 at the weekend, it worked the same as for a lead acid. The trick here is to leave the booster battery connected for a few minutes to get a bit of charge in.

There is a possible issue if your Li battery has a discharge protection mode that prevents the battery from scrapping itself with a complete discharge. If the discharge protection has been triggered then it needs to be reset - my Ctek Li charger has a function to do this.


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[GB.]

So it’s just a case now of deciding which one to choose for me now.


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[Santa-2512]

Had a real slooooow crank this morning, i keep forgetting to prod and wait lol

 

[GB.]

Took the plunge and Ordered a JMT.

One question though, I have a bmw charger that I charge the bike through the hella socket that then charges the bike through the canbus etc etc. Now if the battery is being charged by the bikes charging system when riding will charging via the hella/din socket produce the same charge, I don’t use a trickle charger and only ever charge the battery when I know it’s been getting flat from me setting up accessories etc. will the bikes canbus system control how much charge the bike is getting?


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[Popell]

Took the plunge and Ordered a JMT.

One question though, I have a bmw charger that I charge the bike through the hella socket that then charges the bike through the canbus etc etc. Now if the battery is being charged by the bikes charging system when riding will charging via the hella/din socket produce the same charge, I don’t use a trickle charger and only ever charge the battery when I know it’s been getting flat from me setting up accessories etc. will the bikes canbus system control how much charge the bike is getting?


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Interesting thought. I had a lithium battery a few years ago, sold the bike and it went with it. IIRC it may well have been a JMT.
I think the better LI batts have a battery management module on them, not fully sure what the function is but it may control the charge as well as the discharge patterns/parameters.

I have a charger that is not stated to be compatible with Li batts. But it claims to be able to refresh/desulphate Lead acid batts by entering a period of spiking the voltage.

It is this that I understand displeases a Li batt, I did user it a couple of times to get a little charge in my Li batt but only for a short time, stopping before it got to the maintenance phase. Never had a problem.

I would think that a charger designed to plug into the hella socket is unlikely to spike the voltage for fear of frying the canbus.

All speculation, but I think the logic should be sound

 

[Berin]

Took the plunge and Ordered a JMT.

One question though, I have a bmw charger that I charge the bike through the hella socket that then charges the bike through the canbus etc etc. Now if the battery is being charged by the bikes charging system when riding will charging via the hella/din socket produce the same charge, I don’t use a trickle charger and only ever charge the battery when I know it’s been getting flat from me setting up accessories etc. will the bikes canbus system control how much charge the bike is getting?


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Check the charger works with Lithium - they don't like anything that manages voltages. Either bog simple with recovery modes or anything or a specialist Li one like the Ctek