Brake Pads lasted less than 4000 miles

In 2005 around 22 GS's rode around the Baltic States in very wet conditions, after a couple of thousand miles 5 of us had worn the pads down to the metal from new, the pins had all been lubed beforehand and I always clean the crud out of the disc drillings.

And I was one of them.

I'd also checked my pads before I left and they had plenty of meat on them. On my OE set of rear pads I got over 20k miles before they were near the limit, but the replacements - genuine BMW items - lasted as far as Warsaw on this trip, only about 5k miles after they were fitted.

I remain convinced that one of the part numbers for rear GS pads (and the GS12 pads fit the 1150 and 1100) is for pads made out of papier maché.

Greg
 
... and when I replace what's in there now, it'll be with a pair of sintered pads for sure!

:hammer

Greg
 
I'd normally expect to squeeze a bit more than 30K miles out of a frame.:D
 
My 6 month old 6500 mile 12GSA needed new rear pads at its service last week. (it had done 4k miles with its first owner)

I've done 2500 miles and thought the rear brake was poor from day 1 (mid November) so I'll be keep an eye on them from now on.

BTW the rear brake is quite good now!:thumb
 
i've found a fair bit of drag on my rear wheel caused by the rear caliper. no wonder the pads only lasted 1900 miles :rolleyes:

all pistons, pins etc. free & moving :confused:
 
I've heard comments about rear brake drag before. Bit cynical myself, Should imagine it's just the drag of the FD compared to a chain???

Comments anyone. More mass to rotate?
 
I've heard comments about rear brake drag before. Bit cynical myself, Should imagine it's just the drag of the FD compared to a chain???

Comments anyone. More mass to rotate?

if i press the caliper in so the pads are clear of the disc, the drag disappears. it's definitely the brake.

i discovered this morning that the rear disc gets pretty hot in normal use too. much hotter than the fronts. i'm not sure what conclusion to draw from this, as the rear disc is smaller & shielded by a hot drive box. also, i don't fully understand how the linked braking works. i assumed it was mechanical, but it only works when the ignition's on. there's a delay after pulling the front lever, a solenoid/pump noise from under the tank, and the rear comes on. dunno if it's just a diverter valve or how the braking force is distributed. it might rpessure the rear brake far more than i would consider normal :confused:
 
Well I had a good look over the rear caliper earlier. It had been dragging a bit before I fitted the HH pads and this was after a long run, so no final drive drag. Anyway, I took the bike for a run, washed it then dried it on the move ;) When I got back home I let everything cool for a few hours, gave the back wheel a spin and it now seems OK . Points I noted over the last few weeks, the HH pads dont make anywhere near the mess of the OE organic pads (obviouisly) and hence dont attract the same amount of road crud (this point alone must help reduce wear), also no appreciable wear that I can detect after about 1000 miles of heavy use. Oh, and the bikes still stops like nothing else :thumb2

cookie, i think the rear brake gets a 40% split when using the front.
 
Oh, and I should have mentioned, I binned the rear 'mud guard' when I changed the pads. POS crap catcher and the bike is all the cleaner now it's gone :mcgun :D
 
When I got back home I let everything cool for a few hours, gave the back wheel a spin and it now seems OK . .

You should have not used the rear brake, or not used the brakes hard the last couple of miles before getting home.

Then felt the rear disc, to see how hot it was.
That would have told you more about the rear brake dragging, then any visual method. ;)

Also HH pads are very aggressive on the discs .
 
On my prevouis 05 R1200GS I did 24000miles and the rear pads were only changed once at 14000miles.

On my latest 06 R1200GS the rear pads were changed for the first time at 12000miles during the service by the dealer. My bike has now done 15000miles and the rear pads are gone down to metal! I will be talking about this with my dealer as they have also scored the disc.

If I dont get any joy with the dealer replacing this under warrantee how do I stand if I fit EBC or non BMW pads with the remaining warrantee?

Ian
 
You should have not used the rear brake, or not used the brakes hard the last couple of miles before getting home.

Then felt the rear disc, to see how hot it was.
That would have told you more about the rear brake dragging, then any visual method. ;)

Also HH pads are very aggressive on the discs .

I would have, if they werent linked ;) I did feel the disc when I stopped at the garage and it was merely warm and spinning freely.

I realise HH pads will wear the disc more than the OE pads, but it's either that or change the pads every month :)
 
On my prevouis 05 R1200GS I did 24000miles and the rear pads were only changed once at 14000miles.

On my latest 06 R1200GS the rear pads were changed for the first time at 12000miles during the service by the dealer. My bike has now done 15000miles and the rear pads are gone down to metal! I will be talking about this with my dealer as they have also scored the disc.

If I dont get any joy with the dealer replacing this under warrantee how do I stand if I fit EBC or non BMW pads with the remaining warrantee?

Ian

15000 miles from the rears, a luxury :)
 
After seeing this thread I checked my rear brake pads, and sure enough I was down to about a millimetre left on each pad after 14 000 kilometres (9000 miles or so). I’m sure they would not have made it to my next service due at 20 000km. When I rang the local BMW dealer to check price and immediate availability of new pads, I was offered standard pads or pads ‘for off-road use’ for about 30% more. Does anyone know anything about off-road pads? What would be the difference?

Anyway, I went for the standard pads, and found fitting them to be no trouble at all.
 


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