Close shave on the A32

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Last night I had a very close shave, in fact the closest thing I've had since the Ukrainian Death Slide (don't ask) and of equal terrorification.

I ride home along the A32. Near the village of Corhampton there is an often slippery roundabout at which I take the first exit. The road goes left then bends right and just after Bucks Head Hill it goes back left again: http://tinyurl.com/5a5ls2.

It was dark, around 8:00 pm and wet.

I have taken that last corner at some speed, in the dry and both in the daylight and in the dark. Yesterday I was doing around 45, maybe 50, accelerating (not hard) away from the village.

As I entered the corner, I felt all traction go. To be a little more precise, I did not feel the bike slide at all, but the usual feeling of vibration from wheels on road went completely. I became very, very quickly aware that I was crossing the centre line and then suddenly, very very quickly, I was upright and riding along in the gutter / verge, the right hand side of the bike and my right elbow were being whipped by branches and the bike was bouncing around in the ruts of the verge.

And there was an oncoming car. Close.

I saw his lights dipping as he braked like fsck. I daren't brake but had throttled off so was slowing down. I was in 4th so must have been in the 40-50 band when it happened (when commuting I tend to stick to lowish revs in each gear). I think I dropped the bike into 3rd to slow it down, although I'm not 100% on that.

As the car approached, I didn't think I could avoid being hit by his left wing as he was braking but not swerving so I yanked the bike left and back onto the road. I had to head across to the correct lane and near to the other side of the road because at exactly the same moment he decided to swerve :( It felt like I missed him by 5 feet. I have no idea what it really was. 10 yards, perhaps, at a guess.

Thank Ged Above he had good reactions and braked.
Thank Ged Above the GS could easily cope with the broken up road surface.
Thank Ged Above I wasn't accelerating hard.

I went back along the A32 this morning, although I may well take the A3 home tonight. I couldn't see anything on the road, either mud or the rainbow of fuel residue. I didn't stop to see if it was slippery.

I honestly cannot think of how I could have screwed up the bend by taking the wrong line. It's an easy bend that you just tip into. I've done it twice a day for ages. I'm sure I tipped in exactly as much as I usually would and in the same place. The way the lack of grip felt was very weird too - just like I'd stopped being on the road. Both wheels must have given way the same amount 'cos I didn't feel the back coming round or anything, we just went right across the road instead of round on the expected tack.

The conclusions I draw:
- I was taking the corner too fast. I have taken that corner faster than that in the rain before but on that day at that time it was still too fast.
- the only thing I can think of for the sudden loss of grip is that there was something on the road.
- the GS is fecking' good at coping with stuff, despite having done 87k miles and having what must be fairly shagged suspension by now.
- I fscked it up but I wish I could say exactly how.

Scared the living daylights out of me, I can tell you. My wife looks ace in black but not, I suspect, in mourning :-(
 
The conclusions I draw:
- I was taking the corner too fast. I have taken that corner faster than that in the rain before but on that day at that time it was still too fast.
- the only thing I can think of for the sudden loss of grip is that there was something on the road.
- the GS is fecking' good at coping with stuff, despite having done 87k miles and having what must be fairly shagged suspension by now.
- I fscked it up but I wish I could say exactly how.

Nice one - VERY glad you made it. I suspect, with an attitude to a miss like that, you don't have too many of 'em. Most people would be too busy blaming everything else in sight.

In terms of what made you slip... diesel sounds like the main culprit and could have washed away, but has the road been surfaced with stone-mastic asphalt? Seem to be a few issues with it...
 
Nice one - VERY glad you made it.
Me too. And a bit surprised, frankly.

Bet I scared the car driver, too!

I suspect, with an attitude to a miss like that, you don't have too many of 'em. Most people would be too busy blaming everything else in sight.
I try to have none. Inevitably I do have some, but none would be nicer.

In terms of what made you slip... diesel sounds like the main culprit and could have washed away
I wondered if it was my tyres, to be honest. They're still well legal but have done 13k or so. They are surprisingly unsquare, but I bet the point between 'upright' and 'over' is well iffy.

has the road been surfaced with stone-mastic asphalt? Seem to be a few issues with it...
No, bog standard tarmac as far as I know. It certainly hasn't been resurfaced in a while.
 
Well done

Must have been scary! 3rd gear would have been the right gear for that speed, which may not have prevented the skid but would have slowed you down quicker once offroading and would have provided better response when avoiding the car. Have you read Roadcraft?
 
I went back along the A32 this morning, although I may well take the A3 home tonight. I couldn't see anything on the road, either mud or the rainbow of fuel residue. I didn't stop to see if it was slippery.

:-(

I suspect there may be some long brown streaks that originated at that point.

However, I would check the suspension on the bike very carefully to see if it is all still connected and tickety boo for if it was not oil or heavy frost or mud on the road, the departure of the vibration from the wheels indicates that the connection between your ars and the road became disconnected. That combined with the uncontrolled change of direction and no slide = suspension not doing its job.:eek:

Pleased to hear your ok though as it sounds a tad scary:thumb2
 
I suspect there may be some long brown streaks that originated at that point.
No no. I wear salopettes and so was able to contain all brown stuff until i got home and could hose it out ;-)

I would check the suspension on the bike very carefully to see if it is all still connected and tickety boo
Good idea, I will. Mind you, it all worked fine on the journey in this morning.
 
perhaps diesel i thought - but suspension - yes, worth investigating.

investigating;
you should live a long and happy life because you want to know WHY it happened. :thumb2

i had a rear tyre blowout last saturday. on me Guzzi. on a motorway. at 120Kmh (honestly officer :rolleyes:).
:eek: <- was my first reaction.
but i got it under control and to the hard shoulder.
last time this happened i nearly did...but did NOT. :blast
low speed highside - brief flying lesson - landed on face and slid....
(open face lid / 3 ops on my nose / lost loadsa teeth - they were fecked anyway - but i was seriously lucky to even survive.)

my Son was on the back - he was seven.

he was fine. i would never have forgiven myself if it were any other way.
- he actually griped that although he got a tiny graze on his knee "i wont even need stitches - nothing to show in school!" :mad:
i love the way kids think. :D

anyhow - the point is i spent ages working out how / why/ what could i have done better?

this time around - i dealt well with a potentially lethal situation and am luckily here to retell it.
mainly i think because i investigated the cause. thought long and hard about how to cope if it happened again and be better prepared next time.

Live long and prosper mate!:thumb
 
Glad ur ok Mike, I've had similar on the 1100 with BT020's and am very gingerly running in the Tourances now!

:thumb2
 
Glad you got away with it

And that the driver had some skill and awareness about him too.

I'm running that way to Bahnstormers today for a service so I'll go careful, but like you I've taken that corner regularly at speed as you leave the roundabout - its a strange mix of undulating corners and cambers that's interesting to ride.

Appreciate the local heads-up but more pleased to hear the episode is more a 'whoops' memory rather than anything else. And a reminder that a good check over the bike is probably due even if the culprit was diesel.

Ride safe.
 
I once had a similar experience though only the back let go and nowhere near as scary.

I even went back to have a look at the road surface. I never did find out what caused it and it still bugs me. (Known road, goodish surface, conditions OK, not pushing it).

Probably completely unfairly, I have never used Tourances since even though I have done many miles on them and they are a fine tyre. But in the absence of any other explanation, it was all I could put it down to.
 
Slippage

My mate and i had a similar experience recently, not as bad but both our bikes slipped a good inch and half front and rear, the road had recently been gritted and when we checked over the next couple of days there was a build up on the centre line of the corner of the aforementioned grit. It was barely visible unless you slowed right down to have a good look and it looked wet even though the road was dry (diesel?). Bring on the summer!:Motomartin
 


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