Considering a GS....read this

gs v blade

well I just got a gs adventure and my other bike is a repsol blade,I feel more safe on the gs on cornering than my blade also I can go around rounderbouts better too.How come -why I ask myself,a big bulky bike better than a race developed road bike,lovin it..:)
 
Because .....

(And you've alluded to it already..) Blades, RSV's, R1's ..... they are all born from the track. The Blade you buy today was winning races in WSB six or seven years ago. Race replica bikes are a far far closer relative to their on track brothers than, say, any touring car is, benefiting from technology that is fed straight down from the track to the highstreet in only a few years. Modern highstreet bikes now have push button engine management software, electronic suspension settings; look at the technology dripping in BM's S1000RR. These bikes have a pure race pedigree.

So does that make them good road bikes? What makes a good road bike? How does road riding differ from track riding? Every year The TT is won on a Jap litre super bike, so to sit here and say they don't make good road bikes would be plain daft.

But for us mere pleasure riders (what ever our skill level and ability), we ride a public road that is shared with a whole host of other road users. It has side roads, junctions, driveways, oily roundabouts, slower moving traffic we want to overtake, roads we've never ridden on before, speedlimits....

A good roadbike lets you see. It gives you the ability to scan the terrain. Followed a really good road rider? He will have really good vision, he'll see further than you, he'll be constantly planning and searching for a view, you'll see his head always looking and scanning. His ride will flow in a smoth seamless style. He can see!!

A good road bike will have slightly softer suspension. Blades and Gixxers are blinding, blinding bikes on smooth, flowing, A roads, but for a lot of the time they are, literally a pain in the arse. (I had a zx6, predominantly for track use, but was road legal. On the road it was brill for twenty per cent of the time, bloody hard work for the rest!).

Good road bikes have usable power. Twins make great road bikes. On the road, usable power means punch out of corners, midrange grunt for overtakes, massive engine braking that makes for that seamless flowing ride. Bm's HP2 is a brilliant road bike ..

And a good road bike will involve you. Do I want a 180mph bike on the road? (Yes!! If I lived on the isle of Man - 1198 please ...!), These bikes don't even break sweat at 120's but at that speed I'm already doubling the speed limit and if I'm caught I'm going to loose my licence. I want a bike that I can hoon in a national speed limit, feel like I'm working it hard, but safe in the knowledge that I'm unlikely to go to jail if i'm caught. (Who last rode a two stroke 250? You want fun for an hour or so??!!!).

For many of us, we don't have the luxury of a garage full of different bikes. Most of us make do with one, do it all bike, on which we play, tour and maybe commute.

Is the GS the bike that does all this, and is it the bike we should all own? Of course not, there are dozens of cracking bikes on the market - not least the Multistrada that is another quite brilliant road bike. But is the GS a cracking road bike, does it do all of the above and more? Yes. Does it give you confidence when you're riding? Yes. Is it an easier bike to ride on a public road than a litre sports bike? Yes, unquestionably Yes, and thats why you enjoy it, are more confident on it, and prefer it over your race bred, thoroughbred, Fireblade. :thumb
 
What a very well put post.

I cant for the life of me wonder why anyone would want to buy a sportsbike (ZX Gixxer etc) for the road only.
Yesterday I rode my friends newish crossplane R1, with pipe filters and PC. He rode my bike.
The yam is absolutely ridiculously unuseable on public roads. 3rd gear will double the speed limit, 4-6th is a complete waste of time (200mph?). Rock hard suspension, ver poor vision, ok brilliant brakes but why all this power?
My Multi felt like my best armchair when I got back on it and the power it has is perfectly useable for our roads like the GS. I can ride it way faster on our roads even after getting used to his R1. Its just that its the perfect bike for the average UK roads, not that I am claiming to be a better rider like some other stupid posts I see...
Soaks up our potholes, very very forgiving round shitty corners and brilliant vision over cars, around corners and the road ahead in general.
GS's, multis, tigers etc. These are the bikes that suit our roads and conditions and I would urge anyone reading this thread to buy one rather than a sportsbike. I dont think you will ever go back. :thumb
 
What a spritely forum I have just found, will look up the official intro page soon, but for now:

Hi everyone
 
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This is where I start, 25 years of Sportsbikes, latest is a ZZR1400 with a grands worth of suspension, it is by far the best bike I have ever ridden, £2k on luggage and other mods to make it more distant friendly have created a grand machine.

It has stacks of speed, grunt from £2k to redline, 170+HP at the wheel and the best feedback of any bike I have ever ridden (Thanks MCT)

On a smooth road and over 70mph I am sure gonna be quicker on this bike, however that is the problem, it hits 150 in ten sconds, cruises effortlessly at 130+ and feels slow and frustrating at anything below 3 figures.

It is hard to find good open roads, especially without loads of traffic going half your speed, when you do there is the fear of a licence losing bust ruining my life (no licence = no job = no house etc) or just a tractor being around that bend I can carve through at 130.

When I go to the Alps a GS or similar would be more comfy for the two day motorway run down there, on them mountain roads I would say 50% of the roads would be much better on the GS, 25% maybe a draw and the other 25% marginally better on the ZZR.

At home a GS would be fun to ride at lower speeds, I would spend less time braking up behind cars frustrated about how they ruined my bend, in fact I can turn off onto little lanes and enjoy myself, this opens up far more routes, all of which are less congested.

Sports bikes are great, hard to use in the UK and most riders cannot get the max out of them.

The "I beat a Fireblade" arguement is pointless, a few years back me and my partner embarrased some R1 / Blades two-up on my 10 year old ex-track hack Thundercat.

A mate of mine won the CB500 cup in '97, he did many track days on this bike, I reckon no more than 2-3 riders got past him, we sent him out round donnington dead last in a fast group once, at the end of the session he had overtaken all but one bike and lapped a few including trick Ducati's and such like, some of them on slicks Vs a wobbly commuter bike on skinny tyres with 51bhp, that does not make the CB500 better than a trick Ducati 955, but does make you wonder if the guy on the Duke would be far happier on the CB.

I lapped faster on the CB500 than my sportsbike of the day as I could just cane it without fear, so I am neither impressed or embarrassed when an "inferior" bike comes past me, maybe he is a better rider, maybe I would be faster on his easier to ride bike....

However, it is jolly good fun when your the one on the inferior bike, especially if the guy on the sportsbike has some sort of ego to destroy.

Both types of bikes are fun, just different kinds of fun, and I think I know which one will provide more smiles per mile judging from the ranting and raving here:thumb2
 
Good o, then welcome!

Like you, Jap bikes for many many years and again a similar story, I was getting quicker and quicker on the road, and constantly worried about loosing my licence / job etc.

This bike has been a revelation. (Got a 2010 Adventure..). There is no beautifully lacquered paint on it, I've relaxed about a gleaming merr finish and an exhaust like a mirror, and it's transformed my enjoyment of riding.

If I want to go for a spank now and really give my brain a work out, I take the tiny B roads. The more moss, gravel and crap down the middle of the road the better. Some times my eyes are on stalks, I am going as quick as I can and that might be seventy or eighty tops. Two of my work mates have 990 adventures, and we do a lot together, (in fact its down to one of them, who badgered me for years that sports bikes were a dying breed..) and we have just such a laugh, and all in the safety of not going to jail anymore! And, to boot, I'm working harder now (mentally) and getting more satisfaction out of my riding, than I have done for years. Gravelly uneven surfaces, the odd byway / farm track, popping the odd wheelie over a slight rise in the road..... Breath of fresh air!!!! I'd still keep a bike for the track if I could afford it, but I wouldn't go back to a road sports bike now .....
Enjoy your new found freedom. You have seen the light!!!!! :thumb2

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I did not too bad bad "adventuring" on the Z, so do wonder where a GS / Tiger may take me, here is a piccy or two for those who never leave there own postcode on there sportsbikes...

Nufenen Pass:

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Splugen Pass - A definate GS Road, would not do it on sportsbike again, but glad I did for views, but give me a GS and I would be straight up as far as the FD would carry me.

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N260 in the Pyrenees - TBH that is more a ZZR road for the most part:

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I want to go here next year, a definite Adventure bike route:

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Nice pics, I love your bike man!

Its a sport tourer tho really TBF, miles are easy on a ZZR. Try a ZX10:eek:
 
what a great post Giles on the sports versus Gs debate - Agree with every word of it.

The roads are getting soaking wet,covered in leaves and acorns etc, the evenings are drawing in. My commute in the lake district could not be more relaxing and enjoyable than on my GS. fantastic visibilty, ABS/Tc to add confidence and so easy and confidence inspiring thought the bends. I also own a triumph street triple which many bike mags rant about as the perfect B road tool but it's not a patch on the GS for cornering smoothly at speed with few sweaky bottom moments. The Gs is ugly, a bit a beast to push around and you need to get used to controlling sudden stops ( which is easy with the right technique) but as a safe, exciting, comfortable and multi use bike the GS is simply superb.

after an initial hiccup from new with an oem cam sensor mine has been totally reliable from 200 to 6200 miles and gets smoother and smoother, regularly returning 57mpg plus and 230 mile tank range. if this sounds like a plug to someone considering a GS I have no regrets. as someone once said there'e non holier than a convert !
 
sorry I have a sports bike too, and my Aprilia V4 will blitz ANY GS in the twisties. (obvoiously not on dirt trax)

TB
 
sorry I have a sports bike too, and my Aprilia V4 will blitz ANY GS in the twisties. (obvoiously not on dirt trax)

TB

I'm old and have done many things! 165 on a 600 around Daytona. Ducatis giving away 50 hp showing the way through twisties and a GS showing the way!
 
Give me a chance, after only three months it will take a bit to get up to the same speed on the twistys on the GS. They certaonly handle amazingly well for the size
TB
 
Give me a chance, after only three months it will take a bit to get up to the same speed on the twistys on the GS. They certaonly handle amazingly well for the size
TB

Oh .... by the way TB, welcome to the land of nutters and tossers, I'm sure you'll fit right in ;)
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Hoses for courses.

Im one of them blacked out sportsmachine riders, but i just bought a GS as well :thumb2
Had and still got an Aprilia rsv r , just bought a 1100gs and love it, hope im never in a position to have to choose if one has to go, they really are chalk and cheese especially as the aprilia is bright yellow and the bm is black, the arsevee will try and chuck you out of the seat on bumpy roads, thats cos its set up quite taute, and im well aware that an old fart can blow poser types off cos ive seen it when i was following an advanced bm rider up to kirby lonsdale , its a case of each to there own and enjoying biking in general.pippip Big Jessie:pissl
 
Just very new to the great GS

Hi,
I'm very new to the idea of the GS in it's various guises, have just put my VStrom 1k up for sale in the hope of getting a GS, had a go on one and really enjoyed it so I'm crossing my fingers now so that I can sell the Strow and get a GS :)
 
:bounce1I traded my Ducati ST2 last weekend for a 1200GS. I can't see any reason in the near or distant future to move away from them. As long as BMW keep building them I thinl I'll keep riding them!:bounce1
 


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