diy servicing a 2010 GSA ??

[blueboyxyz]

hi all

as the title says, is the 2010 bike diy mechanic friendly i.e valve clearences and the like, or is it something that has to go to the dealer to be done


martin

 

[JJH]

If you are techinably able to do the work it is possiable for the home mechanic to service it. Depends on ones ability. I have to say I would not service my own bike due to my fears on warrenty issues and sometimes dealers do updates when bikes are in. When it goes outside the warrenty period then you can get stuck in or let an indenpendent do it. JJH

 

[elevensies]

yeah right, course it is, if you dont want warranty or replacement parts WHEN it breaks

 

[blueboyxyz]

Hi all
Have I wasted 13k. On an unreliable bike that is definitely going to need to use its warranty

 

[roadrunnert509]

Better safe than sorry..... take advantage of the warranty and get the dealer to service it during this period.

I have also had experiance of "good will" gestures from my local dealer on bikes out of warranty that subsequently required attention.

 

[xjrjason]

Hi all
Have I wasted 13k. On an unreliable bike that is definitely going to need to use its warranty

You haven't wasted your money, but!

The GSA is probably the best all round bike I've even ridden, and I've ridden pretty much every type of bike style you can name, over 22 years.

I'm not overly impressed with the stuff thats dropped off/broken and in such a short amount of time/miles. ('08 10k miles)


Fingers crossed it's one of those, you'll need/use the warranty for them to fix all the problems, hopefully before the warranty runs out.

Then all will be well.

 

[Big Nick]

Hi all
Have I wasted 13k. On an unreliable bike that is definitely going to need to use its warranty

No you haven't but there have been unlucky owners on here who've had more than their fair share of problems early on and needed the warranty back up.

Chances are you won't need the warranty but repairs will sting you big time if you do and you've invalidated it.

Most of the services come in around the £200 mark which works out to under £20 a month if you budget for a service a year. Small price to pay for the peace of mind of the warranty.

 

[andyclift]

Have I wasted 13k. On an unreliable bike that is definitely going to need to use its warranty

Do you only buy insurance when you know you are "definitely" going to make a claim?

The chances are that your new bike will have no problems but it is daft to spend 13k on any car or motorcycle and risk the warranty but not ensuring proper servicing.

The BMW warranty makes it clear that the bike does NOT have to go to a main dealer but if it is not serviced by a main dealer you may have to prove a warranty claim is not due to the failure of an independent or your own failure. Why take the risk of a three figure bill by skimping on the cost of a couple of services.

 

[ChasMill]

Hi all
Have I wasted 13k. On an unreliable bike that is definitely going to need to use its warranty

Yes you have.


















I'll take it off your hands for £5,000 (and I'm doing you a favour).

 

[ducatiparts.110mb]

I do about 12-14k miles a year so I'll be paying for servicing up to 18000 miles. By the time the 24k is due then it'll be close enough to the end of the warranty period not to worry about losing the odd month.

I don't see any real difficulty in it so long as you're reasonably competent.

If you do it yourself I think you could reasonably argue that by not paying for labour from day one, you could save enough to cover any likely failures (unless you're the unlucky 1 in 100 that gets a big bill)

 

[andyclift]

One important point if you do your own servicing is that without those BMW Motorrad stamps in the service book, rightly or wrongly, you have buggered the resale value. Probably by more than the difference between the three services needed in 18,000 miles and the cost of the bits to do it yourself.

If you then add on the possible aggro with a warranty claim, I just don't think its worth the hassle.

 

[original_concept]

One important point if you do your own servicing is that without those BMW Motorrad stamps in the service book, rightly or wrongly, you have buggered the resale value. Probably by more than the difference between the three services needed in 18,000 miles and the cost of the bits to do it yourself.

If you then add on the possible aggro with a warranty claim, I just don't think its worth the hassle.

bbwwwwaaaa - you're joking.... geez.. dealers must love you.

 

[andyclift]

6, 12 and 1800 mile service costs a total of about £800. The cost of oil, oil filters, air filters, etc. costs into three figures so the actual cost of the work is £500 to £600.

The resale value of a bike with a full BMW service history easily exceeds that if there is proof that the bike has been serviced by BMW. Ie. someone who has ben trained to do the job using original factory parts and controlled via the BMW diagnostic software, not someone who may be the best mechanic in the world but cannot back that up with factory approval.

Adding to that is the fact the bike would have any software updates that are available but not subject to recall. All work that becomes apparent as warranty work has been properly completed.

 

[Canuck]

I'd rather buy a bike serviced by someone like steptoe than any main dealer. How many dealer mechanics do you know who have as much experience as someone like steptoe! I just wish I lived closer!

 

[JJH]

every main dealer should have a Steptoe.

 

[mark71]

Well it seems the dealers have done it again!!!

They seem to have you lot running scared back to the main dealers every time it needs servicing (what easy fools you are), I have serviced my 1150 and my 1200 from new and had a couple of warranty claims with no problems.

If you know your rights then you will know that whether they service it of not they have to prove that the failure is down to your servicing or parts used before they refuse to pay you.

Im sure your dealer will try it on, but is it worth it for him in the long run as I wont be going back to my local dealer after my issues with him, I will buy all future bikes from SBW who are always happy to help with and parts issues I may have.

Before any of you start creating about my doing my own servicing on a new bike and a few of my friends I might add, I lived in Germany and worked for a German dealer so I may have picked up a few tricks of the trade whilst I was over there.

 

[Stretchamus]

They seem to have you lot running scared back to the main dealers every time it needs servicing (what easy fools you are), I have serviced my 1150 and my 1200 from new and had a couple of warranty claims with no problems.

If you know your rights then you will know that whether they service it of not they have to prove that the failure is down to your servicing or parts used before they refuse to pay you.

Im sure your dealer will try it on, but is it worth it for him in the long run as I wont be going back to my local dealer after my issues with him, I will buy all future bikes from SBW who are always happy to help with and parts issues I may have.

Before any of you start creating about my doing my own servicing on a new bike and a few of my friends I might add, I lived in Germany and worked for a German dealer so I may have picked up a few tricks of the trade whilst I was over there.

Never mind tricks of the trade, main thing is, you know that every drops been dripped and exactly whats gone into it

I'd rather any day by a second hand bike with its service book stamped up by some one like Rudimoto or Steptoe than the mainstealer stamps and I'm not just talking about the owners, pay peanuts etc.

 

[elevensies]

totally agree


not all dealers know their way around the bikes

but if you have to, then look/ask here to find out whos good and who aint

if not, steptoe's ya man

 

[ianran]

Sevicing only needs to be done by a VAT registered garrage to maintain warranty. BMW will also accept it in a service book and sell in the bike as an approved BMW. I traded in an 1150gs for a 1200GSA which had been serviced outside the BMW dealership and there was no issues accepting this as full service history.
If you were a bir dodgy you could service it yourself and find a friendly registered mechanic to stamp your book. I of course would never dream of doing this

 

[andyclift]

Missing the Point.

It has already been stated that the BMW Warranty is not affected by non-BMW servicing although in the event of a claim it may be necessary to argue that it was not caused by faulty non-BMW servicing.

The whole point of this thread was about DIY servicing and I would certainly want a VERY good price to buy an expensive bike that may have been serviced correctly with an owner with a high skill level, full access to diagnostics and workshop tools plus the knowledge that only coms with experience - but may have been serviced by a dork with rusty pliers and a big hammer. And when BMW rejects the warranty claim as there are no substantiated service records - who do you sue?