EWS RECALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EWS nonsense

My 08 bike conked out with EWS a couple of weeks ago on the M1 having covered 4k miles since new in March. New antenna ring fitted by dealer and also given a 'software' update on a recall which apparently will cure the blessed thing. Managed a trip to the TT without a problem and it has been ok up to now, about another 1k miles after the failure. Just waiting for the fuel pump to go now though my dealer tells me this is not a problem on 08 bikes. Any comments?

On a positive note this is my 4th GS and this is the first one that doesn't guzzle oil like its going out of fashion! Catching up the Japanese at last!!

Cheers Spagforth:beerjug::beer::bounce1
 
I dont suppose you asked if you could keep the old one as a spare seeing as like me you havent had any problems with it so far.:nenau
I will ask when i take mine in next week but forearmed with a precedent might be useful.

Good thinking that man:thumb
 
Was in Pidcocks this afternoon and my mid March 08 GSA is not covered by the recall - they will be contacting 238 owners who are affected by it :augie
 
Can anyone get a list of the bikes affected?

AFAIK for the 1200GS

chassis numbers ZS91949 to ZS99999
ZU58500 to ZU74499

which I think is 07 and 08 bikes or anything built after Sept 2006(when the 07 bikes where being produced)

Stumpy
 
AFAIK for the 1200GS

chassis numbers ZS91949 to ZS99999
ZU58500 to ZU74499

which I think is 07 and 08 bikes or anything built after Sept 2006(when the 07 bikes where being produced)

Stumpy

That's interesting my March 08 GSA has a frame number ZU52***. Presumabley that means they managed to make a batch of 1200's without defective EWS rings and then started fitting defective ones again after that :confused:
 
That's interesting my March 08 GSA has a frame number ZU52***. Presumabley that means they managed to make a batch of 1200's without defective EWS rings and then started fitting defective ones again after that :confused:

The numbers I have are just for the GS. The GSA numbers are seperate again along with RT, R, S , F models etc

Stumpy
 
Nothing yet in the VOSA database- last one there is dated 3rd March 2008 for the F800/F650 GS fuel pressure sensor.
 
AFAIK for the 1200GS

chassis numbers ZS91949 to ZS99999
ZU58500 to ZU74499

which I think is 07 and 08 bikes or anything built after Sept 2006(when the 07 bikes where being produced)

Stumpy

My August 07 is one of the machines with the faulty EWS rings according to the ZU chassis numbers. I presume it will be replaced during the 6k mile service the m/c is booked in for next week.

I find it hard to believe a company with the R & D and resources available to it, that BMW are still having problems with such a simple part on one of its products :nenau
 
Was in Pidcocks this afternoon and my mid March 08 GSA is not covered by the recall - they will be contacting 238 owners who are affected by it :augie

I will wait for my call then, unless they going to do it on its first service in 11 days.
 
Wow thats 25,000 bikes they have to sort out. I wonder how many actually failed? (mine hasn't yet!):beerjug::beerjug::beerjug:
 
Might seem a bit pedantic but found out last night it's not a recall but a campaign, obviously BMW don't like the thought of a recall on a part they have been claiming is not an issue :spitfire

Seems that it effects biles from September 2006 to March 2008 (as Stumpy mentioned earlier) and dealers are being sent a list of vin numbers for the bikes involved.

Heard that BMW have developed a special tool to reduce the time involved in changing the little bugger, anyone of a cynical nature might wonder if the reason this campaign is happening now is as it will be less costs involved. :rolleyes:
 
I don't get my bike serviced by BMW anymore (although it's less than 2 years old :eek:).

Do you think they'll just give me the part for free ?

I doubt it somehow.

Paul
 
I don't get my bike serviced by BMW anymore (although it's less than 2 years old :eek:).

Do you think they'll just give me the part for free ?

I doubt it somehow.

Paul

If it's on the list they will should still fit it for you surely?

As long as it's been serviced using BMW parts your warranty is not an issue.
 
I find it hard to believe a company with the R & D and resources available to it, that BMW are still having problems with such a simple part on one of its products :nenau

At least it's not a rubber 'O' ring...... :eek:



Awaiting my letter 'in the post'...
 
Might seem a bit pedantic but found out last night it's not a recall but a campaign, obviously BMW don't like the thought of a recall on a part they have been claiming is not an issue :spitfire

Seems that it effects biles from September 2006 to March 2008 (as Stumpy mentioned earlier) and dealers are being sent a list of vin numbers for the bikes involved.

Heard that BMW have developed a special tool to reduce the time involved in changing the little bugger, anyone of a cynical nature might wonder if the reason this campaign is happening now is as it will be less costs involved. :rolleyes:

It's not uncommon in the automotive industry to have a campaign, as opposed to a recall. Recalls are often governmental lead, requiring strict adherence to assorted rules and reg's.

We insure the guarantee and recall cover for a huge ball bearing manufacturer. They had a possible problem with a very large batch of wheel bearings (coming from one - maybe two - factories) possibly in thousands of cars, assembled by assorted manufacturers in only some countries. It all revolved around the possible contamination of a specific batch of steel from just one furnace.

The vehicles were not dangerous per-se. However, it was agreed with the multiple insurers of the single policy that all the possible bearings would be changed, whether a customer knew, wanted it or not. All that happened was that customers' services took a bit longer. However, as most people leave their vehicle in for a day, nobody noticed. Unused bearings, sitting in little boxes in stores and in motor factors also had to be traced. In the end they found the lot.... The claim, brought under the guarantee section of the policy, was several million dollars......Guarantee insurance is often bloody expensive to buy.....but often worth it.

Some people might remember the little letter that dropped through their door, asking early 1200GS owners to drop by to have the ABS cable re-routed (clip added) to avoid numpty wheel changers cutting the cable with the front disk. It's very similar and was, again, not a recall. The EWS electronics are, perhaps, sourced from several suppliers, who (in turn) may have received their components from other suppliers. It takes a while to sort out if there really is a problem, what it is, where the components came from and where they have gone....thankfully, the automotive industry is quite good at it...


The making of a batch of special tools, if it's true, would seem sensible. If you had hundreds of repetitive jobs to do, wouldn't you do the same? It speeds the process for everyone, not least the customer who has to wait / have no bike to use, whilst it's fixed.


Simple guide to a complex problem and cover:

Manufacturers and retailers Insurance

Product Guarantee and Recall

Costs of replacing, repairing or recovering products which have failed to perform their intended function

Faults arising from design, manufacture, installation or use

Advice design and consultancy if connected directly to the supply of products or physical work, e.g. construction, following failure of product

Financial loss of customer or third parties

Costs of recalling faulty, or suspected faulty, products

Advertising and transport cost associated with recall of products

Examination and replacement costs associated with recalled products

Failure to perform, i.e. cover excluded from standard products liability policy subject to an 'inefficacy' exclusion, e.g. for fire extinguishers
 
If it's on the list they will should still fit it for you surely?

That's the point, I don't want them to fit it.
Anytime my bike has been near a dealer it has come back with shoddy work and/or in a dangerous condition. I do everything myself now.

When the brake pipes were changed under the last "recall" it looked like someone had topped up the reservoir with a watering can full of brake fluid.

They had made a half hearted attempt to clean the bike (I can live with that because it was covered in ACF50). But strangely they hadn't directed any of the water near the spilt brake fluid or they had washed the bike before doing the work.
 


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