It's good to hear that some bikes are putting on the miles without problems. I pick my bike up tomorrow. Big thanks to Pidcocks for sorting out some 'goodwill' for me from BMW. Can't fault BM for their support..... but hope their bearings last longer this (the forth) time!
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I'd love to know what business you are in if you don't think you should be charged for a job
And.......how the feck is it another BMW issue because they insist on changing the oil regularly.?? Clean oil leads to long engine life.
Please tell me the whole post is a wind up
Bobbyspit
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I'd love to know what business you are in if you don't think you should be charged for a job
And.......how the feck is it another BMW issue because they insist on changing the oil regularly.?? Clean oil leads to long engine life.
Please tell me the whole post is a wind up
I did not say I should not be charged for a job, I was saying the rear oil could be changed in the time the bike is serviced and with no added expense to the hours taken to the service schedule.(only the oil charged for)
In relation to the another BMW problem, I was referring to the final drive failures.
BMW currently say final drive oil should be changed every 2 years, When I think it should be done every 12 months.
Originally the final drives were a sealed units and no oil change required.
I am for changing the oil every 12 months or earlier, as it clearly states in my original statement (try reading it) I am just opposed to having the hourly rate added to when it can clearly be done within the time schedule allotted for the service.
Sorry if my opinion upsets you... But is is just that, my opinion.
so shall we drain the oil the fd and set the tappets etc all at the same time?
lets be real,how many xtra operations do you want for nowt?
and yes you said you should not be charged for the final drive oil change,does the tech do it with his third arm?
lets be real,how many xtra operations do you want for nowt?
and yes you said you should not be charged for the final drive oil change,does the tech do it with his third arm?
Andy Michael
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08 GS now at 19k miles no problems with final drive at all
I asked about an FD oil change at next service and was quoted an extra hours labour! I do not expect this for free, and any extra work obviously takes some time, but I am guessing no more than an extra half an hour.
Perhaps the dealers would rather not do it so they are more likely to get to extoll £1500 from you when it fails.
8k on mine (2008 model) no problems yet so doing better than some!
Perhaps the dealers would rather not do it so they are more likely to get to extoll £1500 from you when it fails.
8k on mine (2008 model) no problems yet so doing better than some!
Bobbyspit
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I wish I had not said a thing now...
What I am getting at is my mechanic changes the final drive oil at the same time as the gearbox and engine oil. The oil drains at the same time. He doesn't charge a penny more (other than for the oil) where as BMW charge the oil and extra labour.
I should keep my opinions to myself and just use my mechanic. Sorry for having an opinion. I mean not to upset anyone.
Rob
(RIP) Mark H
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There is a bit of work in changing the oil in your 08 1200gs as it does not have a oil drain on the final drive so you need to remove the rear wheel, unbolt a a few bits and let the F/D drop so the oil can drain from the plug at the 9 0/clock position, it could incur an hours labour but I could do mine quicker
Bobbyspit
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There is a bit of work in changing the oil in your 08 1200gs as it does not have a oil drain on the final drive so you need to remove the rear wheel, unbolt a a few bits and let the F/D drop so the oil can drain from the plug at the 9 0/clock position, it could incur an hours labour but I could do mine quicker
Well I live and learn.. It seems I owe my Mechanic more hob knobs and I was thinking you took the oil drain plug our and re-filled. Bmw need to look at making these with a drain plug
I can now see why the extra is charged.
Thanks and Sorry.
Rob
There is a bit of work in changing the oil in your 08 1200gs as it does not have a oil drain on the final drive so you need to remove the rear wheel, unbolt a a few bits and let the F/D drop so the oil can drain from the plug at the 9 0/clock position, it could incur an hours labour but I could do mine quicker
Why not put a pipe in and suck it out.
I know it is a thicker consistancy than engine oil - never tried it but it may work
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There is a bit of work in changing the oil in your 08 1200gs as it does not have a oil drain on the final drive so you need to remove the rear wheel, unbolt a a few bits and let the F/D drop so the oil can drain from the plug at the 9 0/clock position, it could incur an hours labour but I could do mine quicker
You sure about that? I thought it was from 08 onwards that the drain plug was fitted. Its definitely there on my 09 and 08-09 are the same bikes.
Hmmm... I reckon it would taste pretty awful, and you could be spitting bearing fragments out for a week.
Rdub -as I gather from other threads, around £1500 for a new FD, around £330 for a re-build.
My re-built FD comes with 2 years warranty, as per UK law (apparently), because I paid in part for the work.
As far as I'm concerned, this kinda takes the pressure off the problem. £330 every two years is no more than I'd pay for chain & sprockets. Far from ideal, but perhaps a bearable issue. Can't say I won't worry about it on very long trips though.
(RIP) Mark H
Formerly known as Easyrider5258 (Mark)
your probably right Mark,possibly my mistake then, easy to check whether the drains present, If its early 08 might still have the older drive, in which case there will be a bit of work to change the oil.
BlueBird
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Hmmm... I reckon it would taste pretty awful, and you could be spitting bearing fragments out for a week.
Rdub -as I gather from other threads, around £1500 for a new FD, around £330 for a re-build.
My re-built FD comes with 2 years warranty, as per UK law (apparently), because I paid in part for the work.
As far as I'm concerned, this kinda takes the pressure off the problem. £330 every two years is no more than I'd pay for chain & sprockets. Far from ideal, but perhaps a bearable issue. Can't say I won't worry about it on very long trips though.
Where did you get that price from to rebuild yr FD
, I used the MAX BMW online part micro fische and the various bearings and seals to rebuild come to £350ish any one know a cheaper way ofgetting the bearings etc
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