Fitting Autocom into Shoei Raid2

[gsbiker]

First look at installing the Autocom headset into my Shoei Raid2 helmet and I can't see a way of hiding all those wires without putting a hole in the padding in order to tuck them all away? I can remove the cheek pads but nothing else as it all looks sown in and I have to hide the mic and quite a bit of spare cabling.

I would be grateful if some who one has already done this with similar helmet to give me some tips before I go and possibly mess things up!

O and before some smart allec says I have and it's quite vague, only really covers positioning and setting up.

Cheers
Paul.

 

[Doofus]

Hi Paul

I just know none of this description will make sense without you seeing my install, but here goes...

I fitted one to my Raid II. Like you I only managed to get the cheek pads out (more of an all in one cheeks and chin pad).

I put a slit in the polystyrene (maybe 5mm long, 2mm wide) midway up and about 2 inch from front cente (in my case to left) and fed the microphone bendy stem out through there before connecting to the other leads so the majority of the bendy support / lead goes "behind" the polystyrene with about 2 inces poking out in front of mouth. The speaker wires were just jammed up past between the polystyrene and outer shell.

I used a g-clamp to comress the polystyrene a few mm where the speakers go (after pealing away the cotton cover and duct taping it back dowm once speakers installed)

I found a couple of smallish bulldog clips (with levers removed once installed) held the lead to the DIN plug to the black trim nicely.

Overall i found it much easier and neater than installing in my replacement Arai.

Darren

 

[gsbiker]

Thanks Darren

I can only remove the cheek pads. I can't seem to access the polystarene as it's under a fixed plastic black cover (around the cheeks) and padding for the rest of the helmet. I was thinking of inserting a slit near to where the speaker would go in order to hide the cables but I don't know if I will be able to feel them once the helmet is on? All other padding is sown in. I can see holding down (securing) the din lead will be interesting!

Photos showing cheek pads removed.

Here's a mock up

 

[GSrich]

Hi Paul,

I think ive replied to your email, so loom wise and the red connections will come out or fit into the white section in your first photo.

I fit the loom in there first, fit the BGNS so its sat towards the top of the cheek pad area where the black inner shell meets cloth.

I then run the red connector block into the cheeky strap cut out. Mic wise I fit the mic boom so its ran over the top of the wiring loom angled so it runs higher over the hole for where the cheek pad pops/clips in place. This will leave enough free cable so again the red connector plugs can be fitted into the cheek strap section.

Speaker wise you want the speakers ran horizontally not like how you have got them cureently fitted with the wiring running towards the back of the helmet. The wiring for the right hand speaker can be ran around the back of the helmet fitted between the inner and outer shell of the helmet.

Once the cheek pad has been refitted all of the plugs would be covered and the whole fit looks nice and tidy.

Rich

 

[Doofus]

I can only remove the cheek pads. I can't seem to access the polystarene as it's under a fixed plastic black cover (around the cheeks) and padding for the rest of the helmet.

oops.. now I feel a fool, I just cheked my old helmet and contrary to my recollection it appears to be a Raid I. Sorry for being such a goon.

Looks like GS Rich has helped you out (and he's the expert)

good luck
Darren

 

[theopj]

Thanks, I've been trying to figure out how to do the same thing to my Raid 2 as well - will give Rich's instructions a go.

 

[gsbiker]

Speaker wise... The wiring for the right hand speaker can be ran around the back of the helmet fitted between the inner and outer shell of the helmet.

Hi Rich Thats where I have a problem! Hiding away speaker wires so they don't show. I don't want to use duct tape and if I insert the further speakest away through the linning there will still be speaker wire on show as there is no hole currently closest to push them through. I was hoping to hide the speaker wires without making holes in the lining which will probably tear over time. I'm guessing that if there are some wires on show they may get snagged, pulled or caught with use and there not very thick wires either!

Is there no other way?

 

[GSrich]

Hi Paul,

For the speaker cables if they are run around the back of the helmet dropped between the inner and outer shell you will not need to worry about using any tape, any unwanted access leads can be hidden tucked away also out of the way.

Rich

 

[gsbiker]

Hi Rich, thats what I'm saying my helmet inner is sown in. Near the top of the helmet the inner is lose with air vents but that's near the top. Seems I will have to cut my inner then - not what I wanted to go at all!

 

[GSrich]

Sorry for the dodgy drawing/pic but I do not have photoshop on my PC anymore but a bit of Paint helped me out.

When I say we run the wiring around the back of the helmet between the inner and outer shell this is where we drop the cables around

 

[gsbiker]

Thanks Rich I get the idea now. Just a quick one...

1. How does the BGNS secure apart from sitting under the cheek pads as I can see this possibly getting pulled out maybe?

2. My ears now hurt as they are right on top of the speakers regardless of adjustment, getting my helmet on and off is now PAINFULL and uncomfortable when on. Is this normal?

3. I can't live with this - way too much pain for my liking - what are my choices? are there helmets with speakers built in that are compatible with this system?

 

[gsbiker]

I found out that the BGNS was the noise suppressor.

My helmet is too small for these speakers - kills my ears both getting the helmet on and off and wearing it with them in despite several adjustments. I will either have to sell this kit and forget about it or buy another helmet - jeeze!

 

[Wapping]

2. My ears now hurt as they are right on top of the speakers regardless of adjustment, getting my helmet on and off is now PAINFULL and uncomfortable when on. Is this normal?

3. I can't live with this - way too much pain for my liking - what are my choices?

Quite normal.

Choices?

or the more trendy:

Failing the above, then:

But best of all:

You really must love this motorcycling lark.

 

[Silver Rat]

Thanks for the help guys, I fitted comms to my Shoei Multitec last night and all the wires are well concealed!

Hope the frost goes away soon so that I can try it!!

I also checked the Autocom web site first as there are PDF docs there to assist fitting comms and there is mention of foam covers for the mike......I have purchased two head sets recently and there were no foam covers in the box. Is that another extra??

 

[gsbiker]

Thanks for the help guys, I fitted comms to my Shoei Multitec last night and all the wires are well concealed!

Hope the frost goes away soon so that I can try it!!

I also checked the Autocom web site first as there are PDF docs there to assist fitting comms and there is mention of foam covers for the mike......I have purchased two head sets recently and there were no foam covers in the box. Is that another extra??

Aparantly Shoi Multitec is THE only Shoi helmet designed to take intercom speakers - which puts me s**t out of luck as I own a different Shoi! The Multitec requires a boom mic which is extra - how much I don't know but I want to know because I'm considering buying one for my autocom now - either that or I will have to sell my autocom cause it ain't going back in my Raid2 - my ears havn't stopped hurting since last night

 

[gsbiker]

Wapping you make me laugh

 

[gsbiker]

Wapping you make me laugh

 

[Wapping]

In stereo, apparently.

 

[BroX]

I have quite successfully squeezed autocom speakers and mic into my Raid2. It is possible to take out the polystyrene cheek/chin bit if you first peel away the soft black lining stuff.

Since the OP already seems to have moved on to another Shoei I'll keep this short, but if anyone else is interested I could post some photos.

Cheers, Leon.

PS: I agree that it needs a bit of a wiggle when I put on the helmet, but after that all is well and I don't notice the speakers. Of course, your ears may vary

 

[theopj]

Yes if you could post some photo's that would be great - I know I can wear mine with the speakers in as I've done that before when I used some speakers and a radio in listen only mode on my last tour.