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as I stated above, the resistance from the smaller ports like Caen, Santander and small airports like Memmingen that have maybe one or two non-EU arrivals a day is what has driven the delay in implementation. Cyprus has already refused to be a part of it and there might be more.

Does Cyprus get away with that because it’s not part of the Schengen area?
 
It is a source of some surprise that my iPhone can recognise me and authorise a payment in a petrol station, even if I have my lid on, flip front open, natch. It also seems to cope with reading glasses and sun glasses. I think it learns, because I’m fairly sure it didn’t when new.

Of course, you’d have to be a very frequent traveller for the ETIAS to recognise you…

I was pleasantly surprised not to have to remove my crash helmet at the Hook of Holland on arrival there recently but even more pleasantly surprised not to have to remove it at Calais when we used the train for our return journey. I blame it on us arriving there just after 8am when the very friendly staff had obviously not been on duty long enough to be pissed off and feeling vindictive.
 
Helmet removal at the Chunnel is a straight lottery.

I cannot recall ever being asked to remove it by the French officials on either side. The English tea hut dwellers vary between at one end of the spectrum, the overly chatty, thro’ to the downright sulky; either or both sometimes request / order the removal of a flip front. I use the word ‘order’ as some of the more sulky ones have not yet learned the simple word ‘please’.

I was with ChasMill when his wife pillion was asked to remove her helmet. Charlie asked if the official would request the same if she was wearing a burqa?

The official confirmed that he would. To which Charlie replied “Good”. He did though receive a thump in the back from Mrs ChasMill.

Happy days.
 
On a plus side, bods can hold their passport in with their teeth and no 19yo snowflake can tell them off at a tea hut, that he/she/they/them is to afraid to touch it in case he/she/they/them might risk catching some unheard disease.
The downside of course is bods getting pissed off for having their liberty vanish and not even flip lid going to save it, is for them having to get off their high horses bikes, and remove their helmets, take their prised possessions with them and then go potentially to stand in the queue, to scan them self through the border, whilst mantra is spinning on repeat in their heads ‘we want our borders back, and Johnny Foreigner can feck right off, as he’s not welcome over here’, our homes, our jobs, our taxes, our benefits …’ all of this whilst checking in to with the autonomous device to go, erm… abroad and be a fecking Johnny Foreigner himself.

that happened to me back in March at the tunnel, the cow had a right tilly ann about it made me wipe it down with antibac lotion,

how the fuck am i supposed to hold it a drive the bike
 
that happened to me back in March at the tunnel, the cow had a right tilly ann about it made me wipe it down with antibac lotion,

how the fuck am i supposed to hold it a drive the bike
Seriously? I'd do the same thing - why should they have to handle something that's been in someone's gob??

There's loads of options - put it in a jacket pocket, put it in a tank bag, clip it to your screen with a peg of some description (see other posts on here) or get one of those small runners bags that straps to your arm. Others will prolly have other suggestions....
 
'It has been reported in the media, based on disclosures with a few EU ministers, that ETIAS implementation has been pushed to 2025. This setback comes as a result of a combination of unforeseen challenges and complications stemming from the Paris Olympics and the delayed EU Entry/Exit System.26 Sept 2023'
 
Also being reported that a few EU countries (incl France) are requesting that EES implementation be put back from the November date.

Exactly as I predicted earlier in the thread. It only takes a few small airports with one Ryanair flight a day to have problems for the deck of cards to collapse. Although this current debacle is the French panicking about Dover.

News story not behind a paywall: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...cognition-checks-expected-to-be-delayed-again
 
I do think it’s entertaining that the EU, with the leakiest borders in the world (after UK and USA), propose to make it more difficul, or at least inconvenient, for bona-fide visitors to visit and mounting a massive data collection excersise on those visitors, whilst daily admitting thousands of people with no documentation whatsoever.
 
It's easy to get ETIAS & EES confused, so I tend to check facts here, rather than rely on UK media ........ https://travel-europe.europa.eu/ees_en

Whilst I don't have a problem with the concept of ETIAS, given many of us will have used a similar construct when visiting the USA, EES looks far more cumbersome, something of a backdoor digital ID, packaged up to look like a worthy convenience to hasten entry/exit.

As @Berin says, the system patently fails from it's stated aim, as irregular/illegal migrants roam around the EU pretty freely in my personal experience. The EES system has been designed to give EU officialdom the capacity to identify & monitor the length of stay for legitimate non-EU visitors, whilst relying largely on outdated legacy systems for EU residents, although I see the digital wallet concept is still being pursued: -

......... https://commission.europa.eu/strate...-fit-digital-age/european-digital-identity_en
 
Easy money for someone. Estimated that 1.4 billion will be issued next year.... at €7 a pop.
Is it not a case of the total number of residents in the countries required to apply for it number 1.4 billion rather than that's how many will apply next year ?
 
And just remember, before anyone starts bemoaning the ‘nasty’ EU, that this is something the (Tory) UK govt lobbied and voted for when we were still in the EU
 
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Can’t grumble at measures to protect borders.

About time we looked after our own.
 
Yes, protecting our borders.

Shame we protected them so effectively from our European neighbours who share much the same culture and background as we have historically, so all the vets, carers, nurses, plumbers and builders etc went home, and strange that we seem to have opened them to everyone else.

Very curious, and massively economically damaging. Still, never mind, eh. That’s democracy.

At least that utter wanker Rees Mogg didn’t get us to resume use of imperial weights and measures. We’d be really fucked if that had gone through.
 


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