GS vs VFR

i rode past a VFR 1200 the other day,nodded and simultaneously puked in my helmet. i had the 750. lovely bike. to me part of the attraction of biking is admiring its aesthetics. (to me) the vfr12 hasn't got it.
bet its fun to ride tho.:aidan
 
The 2012 VFR has had many changes including larger tank as this forum thread discusses.


I love my GSA but am concerned about the running costs, (incl extended warranty) and to be honest the track record on BMW reliability over recent years.

The Honda has a much better track record in running costs, reliability and warranty. But as has been said, it's a totally different ride, and if anyone tries to persuade me that any particular bike is the best for everyone then I'd treat them like the saturday morning door knockers.

I also love my VFR 800 Vtec, so if the pre vtecs were better, they must be really great. There's no such thing as a bad bike as so much of it is personal and subjective.
 
The 1200VFR is a very fine bike, as it should be with upwards of 160 bhp on tap.

Bollocks about the tank range. The tank is what, 18.5 litres, summit like that? Most bods will get 10 miles per litre, the rough rule of thumb for most bikes. Let's chop a bit off and say 170 miles. Few punters will ride that distance to the fruit and veg stall without stopping on their GSA with its 30 plus litres, let alone their vanilla GS with its smaller tank.
 
But the VFR lacks character :ronno
 
Wapping said:
The 1200VFR is a very fine bike, as it should be with upwards of 160 bhp on tap.

Bollocks about the tank range. The tank is what, 18.5 litres, summit like that? Most bods will get 10 miles per litre, the rough rule of thumb for most bikes. Let's chop a bit off and say 170 miles. Few punters will ride that distance to the fruit and veg stall without stopping on their GSA with its 30 plus litres, let alone their vanilla GS with its smaller tank.
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You forget to factor in the worldly traveller image associated with LARGE tanks with MEGA range.How Would we cope with even a hundred mile range:rolleyes:

Saying that I do have a rather large tank on my DRZ:blast
 
i refuel my GSA on the move and dont stop for 600 miles. :D
 
I rode the VFR1200 and thought it was great, you could glide through the twisties picking off the apex's perfectly, all that was missing was engine braking. The other downside for me was the cramped leg position and the fact that where you normally cruise at 60-80, it was comfy at 90-110. Really impressed with the bike :thumb2
 
APE said:
But the VFR lacks character :ronno
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Got it in one.:clap

Yes, it's a highly competent motorcycle. Very powerful, very torquey (well, after a Blackbird anyway), very straight-line power delivery, and utterly, utterly bland and devoid of character.

I took one for a two hour test ride and, although it did everything asked of it beautifully, it just left me cold. And that's leaving aside its hideously ugly (to me) looks :barf

And surely it's the character of a bike that makes it great:nenau Take both the CBR1100XX and GS1200 as a case in point:cool:

Enough said:D:thumb
 
Mibee the lad isn't bothered about character and just wannts a good bike:nenau
 
doyle said:
Mibee the lad isn't bothered about character and just wannts a good bike:nenau
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If he wanted 'character' he'd buy a Ural or some other pile o'shite.


sven said:
My car will do up to to 700 miles on a tank, but I still have to stop for a coffee/Sausage and egg McMuffin/piss every couple of hours :D
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Which sums up neatly all the borrox over the tank size. On 'great roads, mate' like the rural D roads of France, even giving it some gas you'll be lucky to really average much over 35mph. Two hours is 70 miles and still another 100 miles in the VFR's tank. The 100 more will take a bit under two and a half hours.

Viewed another way, most rides set off at around 09:00. Two hours or 70 miles later, it's 11 o'clock and time for a coffee for 30 minutes. 11:30 set off again, to stop at 13:15 a bit shy of 140 miles gone and it's time for lunch, but with still at least 30 miles (just under an hour) left in the tank. Splosh some fuel in and away you go for the afternoon.

Quite a lot of bods have any idea how far their bike will go on a full tank of fuel. I have seen GSer's in panic mode when they have gone 130 miles on a full tank. I have seen others refuse to fuel, 'as it will do miles, mate' then start gesturing at the tank 45 minutes (25 miles) down the road, only for us then to discover that the fuel warning light hasn't even come on. I have seen others who only half fill the tank most times, as they know that they will want to stop anyway; I guess they would be happy with a 12 litre tank?
 
How do I convince my mate to go for the GS?
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Why does it matter? His money, his choice etc

As for all this stopping for fuel nonsense - I fall into the "big tank long range" category and yes I do stop choose to stop well before the fuel light comes on, but I want to take my riding breaks sat on in a layby looking at the scenery, or on a remote hilltop watching the wildlife, or at a cafe reading the paper and having a coffee. I don't want to be forced to take a break and sit on a dirty concrete floor watching people around me fill their cars with petrol.
 
sven said:
I've never heard the VFR1200 described as bland - only the tank range has been criticised. V4 engines are wonderful creations :bow
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Exactly what I've heard too

I've had both an original 750 & 800 which were both peaches
 
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