Nor big MPV's

Did both passes in August on my Serow (easy peasy) & spent a good 20 minutes being amused by a large minibus emptying all its passengers so they could give it a bit of a starting push & then left them to walk to the top
Met a couple of Germans at the Hardknott pub - one had left his big Harley in a layby half-way down because the clutch had burned out
Don't forget to stop to admire the Roman Fort too