Hilltop - is it worth it?

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You read any motorcycle tyre manufacturers FAQ about Dyno's... they damage tyres

From Dunlop...Tire Tips
Dynamometer Testing

Never put a tire in use that has been subjected to on-the-motorcycle dynamometer engine testing. This severe use of the tire may result in tread compound degradation and subsequent failure.

From Avon...

Avon Tyres Ltd - riderzone - rider_safety .
Motorcycle tyres which have been subject to use on rolling roads must no longer be used for subsequent, normal service. Use of Avon motorcycle tyres on a rolling road (Dyno) will invalidate the tyre warranty. All tests on rolling roads must be carried out with test tyres, special tyres reserved for maintenance purposes, or tyres which are worn out or downgraded.
You do understand, testing !

Should I replace my tyres every time I use all the power through the gears on my private motorway.

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Why don't you contact Geoff and he can correct you. The original map is not overwritten.

For example if you write a sub routine, does it replace or modify the standard program ?

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So you don't know either and you're a repeat customer. It's more mysterious than witchcraft.
 
THE ROLLERS DAMAGE TYRES... Comprende
I've watched bikes being built at the Triumph factory and they test them on a rolling road, I've seen video's of BMW doing similar. I'm guessing most motorcycle manufacturers do the same.

I look forward to you posting any replies from any of them here, once you've advised them where they are damaging our brand new bikes before we even get them.

Or do your bikes get new tyres fitted after the dyno testing ?

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I've watched bikes being built at the Triumph factory and they test them on a rolling road, I've seen video's of BMW doing similar. I'm guessing most motorcycle manufacturers do the same.

I look forward to you posting any replies from any of them here, once you've advised them where they are damaging our brand new bikes before we even get them.

Or do your bikes get new tyres fitted after the dyno testing ?

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You're an idiot.

If you haven't got the message by now, carry on.
 
I do know, and the standard map continues as is.

Of course, you could set up your own dyno shop and show us how you can do better.

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So explain exactly what they do to put your bike back to standard after a refund claim?
 
How?

There is no original map to install?

The original map remains as standard - throughout the time you have a Hilltop map installed.

It just isnt accessed.

When a Hilltop map is removed - the control falls again to the OEM software.
 
The hilltop software goes in the memory of the chipset not used by the OEM software. It interacts with the OEM software and thus alters the mapping of the OEM parameters if I can call it so. If you want it removed then it is simply uninstalled. As for tyre damage, whatever you do don't pull the straps down so hard the tyres are squished, the straps are used to keep the bike in position. And for meager output of the GS you don't need to worry about the tyre slipping on the rollers. Leave that for 600+ bhp machines 0-62 in 1.5 sec class cars.

No need to fret about mileage and petrol and tyres. You can send your ECU by post. And as Tractors said and I've seen it with me own 2,5 eyes the bikes goes on dyno at the factory and ragged to an inch of their life just after being filled with fluids.
 
So you don't know either and you're a repeat customer. It's more mysterious than witchcraft.

I’ve bought a total of 4 flat-screen tellies in the last 5 yrs. I bought them, secure in the knowledge that no-one would be such a fuckwit, as to suggest that as I don’t understand how they work - I shouldn’t have bought them........

Bu-u-t......... here you are. :blast
 
So explain exactly what they do to put your bike back to standard after a refund claim?
The additional sub routines will be deleted from the spare capacity in the non volatile memory; that's how blue fin do it for cars although they used to piggyback an extra control unit ala power commander.

In theory if you go down to reading binary you can see what's been changed, but you need to know standard to modified.

Although it is around 40 years since I did my computing modules, I can probably still do binary/hex/ascii if you want to send it over for me to read.

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I’ve bought a total of 4 flat-screen tellies in the last 5 yrs. I bought them, secure in the knowledge that no-one would be such a fuckwit, as to suggest that as I don’t understand how they work - I shouldn’t have bought them........

Bu-u-t......... here you are. :blast

But you don't claim to defend every aspect to its design, like you know what you're talking about.

So STFU
 
Hilltop Junkies

Haha reading your shit, you sound like Junkies... just try it... It's so good.

Even after all the evidence that it does little, can void your warranty on your bike and tyres.

With claims that are so obviously unreal, you're still aggressively defending its methods and use.

Like a bunch of Hilltop junkies :D
 
Well there are losses.

Your time is lost

Your fuel used to get there, have your bike raped on a rolling road, and fuel home is lost

Your rear tyre can be damaged on the rolling road while its strapped down and could be lost

Disgruntled rolling road staff issuing refunds isn't going to happen unless they take their map back off your bike, reinstall your old map and tell you to bugger off.... and hope they do it properly. More time and agro.

All for what??

Well there are losses.



Your time is lost …Worth the waste

Your fuel used to get there, have your bike raped on a rolling road, and fuel home is lost .. get free fuel

Your rear tyre can be damaged on the rolling road while its strapped down and could be lost .. I do more damage on a sunday going to the garage

Disgruntled rolling road staff issuing refunds isn't going to happen unless they take their map back off your bike, reinstall your old map and tell you to bugger off.... and hope they do it properly. More time and agro.

All for what?? A better bike , better fueling and a big smile
 
Hilltop Junkies

Haha reading your shit, you sound like Junkies... just try it... It's so good.

Even after all the evidence that it does little, can void your warranty on your bike and tyres.

With claims that are so obviously unreal, you're still aggressively defending its methods and use.

Like a bunch of Hilltop junkies :D

Better to smoke the shit than know shit :D

I like that ...
 
Hilltop Junkies

Haha reading your shit, you sound like Junkies... just try it... It's so good.

Even after all the evidence that it does little, can void your warranty on your bike and tyres.

With claims that are so obviously unreal, you're still aggressively defending its methods and use.

Like a bunch of Hilltop junkies :D
Evidence how it invalidates your warranty.

You're talking shite.

1) unless you go down to reading machine code, how are you going to know it has been done.

2) Assuming that you are almost as good an Engineer as our Engineer, on here, you will be able to identify the specific cause for failure, put your opinion in writing and; stand up at court and evidence your conclussions, then have expert testimony against you. Who as an example have a Bsc (hons) Msc and is a CEng too. BUT if it did go your way and Perry Mason was your lawyer and you prove you are correct.

Then of course, I would have proven evidence that the 3rd party work was defective, in some way, and I now claim against them.

So who cares who pays the bill, as long as it isn't me.

There are lots of different options to choose from, and unlike you, I would not be so restricted in my thoughts as to say that other people's choices are wrong. They are right for them.

Their bike, their money, their decision.

It comes down to respect, something you are sadly lacking.

You sir are an arse.

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