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[Wapping]

So what does the mapping do to the bike in terms of the ride quality / experience?

See post #2 and similar others.

 

[ShakeyGS]

See post #2 and similar others.

You're on form today
So what it does is to improve fuel consumption ...... (post #2)

 

[Wapping]

So what it does is to improve fuel consumption ......

Only with (sensible) riding.

The OP missed out the obligatory which is the essential bikermate code for: "Mate, I was really givin' it the beans, a real fistful, awesome it was, but I'll pretend that I wasn't in case any cops are looking in to this thread, wankers".

There again, he was crying over having to go to the seaside, so it's quite possible he really was bimbling (as opposed to hooning) the now awesomely powerful steed like a girl, afraid to twist the throttle in case it catapulted him into the hedge.

 

[AberdeenAngus]

If the Hilltop magic produces more power for less fuel, then can only assume that the stock mapping is over-rich.
Seems strange.

 

[Wapping]

If the Hilltop magic produces more power for less fuel, then can only assume that the stock mapping is over-rich.
Seems strange.

It's not strange, it's magic!

 

[Phill Elston]

Does this do anything for the smoothness of the delivery or the general running of the bike?, it looks like it should, but how it feels is hard to tell from a graph. I've just bought one, and compared to the 4 cylinders I'm used to the GSs are a bit gruff.

Thanks

James

Hi James,

I know where you are coming from. I came to the GS from Pan Europeans (I had both 1100 & 1300). It doesn't make the engine as smooth as the transverse V4 but yes, the major idea is to smooth out the delivery of the power

 

[auf_wiedersehen_pet]

So what does the mapping do to the bike in terms of the ride quality / experience?

A transformation!

Mine was done on Saturday. The after graph lines are similar to the OP's graph but my before graph lines were better.

There just seems to be so much torque now. Manoeuvring around at slow speed there no need for throttle as there's now 50% more torque at tickover. Smooth and effortless overtaking. The top end figures are irrelevant to me.

It's by far the biggest improvement in performance I've ever had on any bike in the last thirty five years.

 

[Phill Elston]

Only with (sensible) riding.

The OP missed out the obligatory which is the essential bikermate code for: "Mate, I was really givin' it the beans, a real fistful, awesome it was, but I'll pretend that I wasn't in case any cops are looking in to this thread, wankers".

There again, he was crying over having to go to the seaside, so it's quite possible he really was bimbling (as opposed to hooning) the now awesomely powerful steed like a girl, afraid to twist the throttle in case it catapulted him into the hedge.

Yep... the usual ultra sarcasm with good points from the East End Docks

No, I wasn't honing it like a teenager on a crack trip because a) I'm a long way from my teens and b) it was the beginning of "rush hour" BUT - I may (allegedly) have been far more heavy handed with the throttle over the Cotswold A roads that I was on the motorway. I was - for me - cranking it on and chucking it into corners more liberally than I had before. Yes, many other riders would have and will in the future, slice past me like greased weasles but I may have throughout the journey been pushing the buttons that would have made plods "ticketing hand" tingle.
My point was that my bike appeared on paper to give more power. I noticed said power and used it. Though I was using that power liberally (not perhaps as liberally as some) the bike still returned better fuel economy than before the remap

 

[Phill Elston]

A transformation!

Mine was done on Saturday. The after graph lines are similar to the OP's graph but my before graph lines were better.

That makes sense. The first figures were on the brand new Akra headers that the bike hadn't been set up for - and the reason I decided to get headers fitted before getting the bike hilltopped.

So perhaps a good pointer (as has been previously said) simply adding headers and end can won't add power (may actually reduce it) getting a remap alone won't ALWAYS increase power by a lot. But get them done together and you might need fresh undies

 

[Wapping]

Yep...

No, I wasn't honing it like a teenager on a crack trip because a) I'm a long way from my teens and b) it was the beginning of "rush hour" BUT - I may (allegedly) have been far more heavy handed with the throttle over the Cotswold A roads.... Though I was using that power liberally (not perhaps as liberally as some) the bike still returned better fuel economy than before the remap....

and you might need fresh undies

In short, a happy bunny

How was the seaside?

PS Get mum to change your undies, when and if you unleash the power.

 

[Nutty]

The bike is so heavy in the first place, and its form factor, I wouldn't bother with exhaust upgrades.

Waste of money, in my opinion.

Only a waste of money if you're expecting big power gains. If you want a nicer sound (aka "presence" Wappers ), then it's money well spent.

 

[Wapping]

Only a waste of money if you're expecting big power gains. If you want a nicer sound (aka "presence" Wappers ), then it's money well spent.

Presence is viewed from the front... large frontal area, very bright lights, large panniers, large (preferably fat) rider

Planted, is large frontal area, large middle area, large rear area,weighty large panniers, tank bag, more bags, topbox, weighty security chain, weighty padlock, weighty (read, fat) rider

Sound is, well.... just noise. Though some will claim it's an essential safety feature

 

[ShakeyGS]

A transformation!

Mine was done on Saturday. The after graph lines are similar to the OP's graph but my before graph lines were better.

There just seems to be so much torque now. Manoeuvring around at slow speed there no need for throttle as there's now 50% more torque at tickover. Smooth and effortless overtaking. The top end figures are irrelevant to me.

It's by far the biggest improvement in performance I've ever had on any bike in the last thirty five years.

now that DOES sound appealing

 

[Phill Elston]

In short, a happy bunny

How was the seaside?

PS Get mum to change your undies, when and if you unleash the power.

LOL Seaside wasn't SO great... the wife's best friends funeral

We'll leave my scruds out of this thank you! LOL The power HAS been unleashed and by buggery it induces a ridiculously big grin!

 

[alp]

This topic has a lot of content over the time but I just need a simple answer ....can someone confirm that when it's done a) BMW won't be able to see it has been done e.g. to argue over any warranty liability issues and b) when BMW update the bike's software during say, a service that it won't be overwritten or cause update problems.
If that can be confirmed for me then I'm in.
Cheers.

 

[MaDPRoFF]

Phone them up and ask them?

 

[Phill Elston]

This topic has a lot of content over the time but I just need a simple answer ....can someone confirm that when it's done a) BMW won't be able to see it has been done e.g. to argue over any warranty liability issues and b) when BMW update the bike's software during say, a service that it won't be overwritten or cause update problems.
If that can be confirmed for me then I'm in.
Cheers.

Taken directly from Hilltop's own website: http://www.hilltopmotorcycles.co.uk/

"We call ourselves 'remappers' because that is the colloquial term that everyone understands, but actually we write engine management software. This is much more complex, time-consuming work but means we have several advantages over conventional remappers:

1. We don't touch the original factory software, so there's no chance of us ruining your ECU. Our software goes onto unused space on the ECU and interacts with the original software as necessary (to allow functionality such as immobilisers, ABS braking, traction control etc.)

2. We're not stuck with the legacy of anything the manufacturer creates that's less than ideal in functionality (some manufacturers' software is much better than others).

3. Our software is self-learning, so you can change exhausts, air filters, cams etc. without needing the ECU programmed again. This also means that the bike will perform optimally in all climates and at all altitudes.

4. Our software is invisible and cannot be seen by your dealer or anyone else, so your warranty will not be affected."

 

[Ex-Call Centre Chimp]

Taken directly from Hilltop's own website: http://www.hilltopmotorcycles.co.uk/

"We call ourselves 'remappers' because that is the colloquial term that everyone understands, but actually we write engine management software. This is much more complex, time-consuming work but means we have several advantages over conventional remappers:

1. We don't touch the original factory software, so there's no chance of us ruining your ECU. Our software goes onto unused space on the ECU and interacts with the original software as necessary (to allow functionality such as immobilisers, ABS braking, traction control etc.)

2. We're not stuck with the legacy of anything the manufacturer creates that's less than ideal in functionality (some manufacturers' software is much better than others).

3. Our software is self-learning, so you can change exhausts, air filters, cams etc. without needing the ECU programmed again. This also means that the bike will perform optimally in all climates and at all altitudes.

4. Our software is invisible and cannot be seen by your dealer or anyone else, so your warranty will not be affected."

But what about insurers? Will they be able to detect it?

If only there was an insurance bod on this forum who might read this thread...................

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

But what about insurers? Will they be able to detect it?

If only there was an insurance bod on this forum who might read this thread...................

.............and Mrs Miggins!

There is no express statement from Hilltop that Mrs Miggins won't be able to see the magic they load into the ECU

Andres

 

[GS TRV]

Only with (sensible) riding.

The OP missed out the obligatory which is the essential bikermate code for: "Mate, I was really givin' it the beans, a real fistful, awesome it was, but I'll pretend that I wasn't in case any cops are looking in to this thread, wankers".

There again, he was crying over having to go to the seaside, so it's quite possible he really was bimbling (as opposed to hooning) the now awesomely powerful steed like a girl, afraid to twist the throttle in case it catapulted him into the hedge.

LOl!!!! love it