Indicators self cancel

[Fanum]

This is the most annoying feature! Twice when turning right, I'm stopped in the middle of the road and hadn't noticed they had self cancelled! I'd love to turn this useless feature off

Interesting view.....

I've got an 1150Adv, obviously a far superior bike in all ways apart from it didn't come with the self cancelling indimaflashers......

I've put on a Kissan signal minder, which gives me the ability to have them cancel on a set number of flashes, which is over-ridden by the brake sensor....or to leave it on until I cancel it physically.....

I also find it cancels sometimes before I've made the turn...it doesn't take much before you become used to re-pressing the flasher button....

That might be a minor PITA but TBH I find people on bikes who haven't cancelled their indicators and go on for miles indicating incorrectly are more irritating, and probably at more risk by having their intentions mis-understood, than I am (and all you 1200 riders are) by indicating our intentions yet having it stop just before we turn if we don't renew the signal

Like I said, I've got the choice, but I do use it 'cos on balance it makes sense I reckon....YMMV

 

[Paul Wakefield]

A rather surprising question! check the manual

Unless they have updated the manual, it's not in there.

I quite like the feature but I also would like the ability to press to reset the timing whilst they are flashing.

Paul

 

[Janie]

As i'm new to the gs.............i still haven't got use to the indicators switches......i'm still beepin at the moment instead of turnin the indicator off..........lol

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

As i'm new to the gs.............i still haven't got use to the indicators switches......i'm still beepin at the moment instead of turnin the indicator off..........lol

Had mine two years and STILL do the above

PS Your Avavtars are really starting to mess with my head

Andres

 

[Shep]

As i'm new to the gs.............i still haven't got use to the indicators switches......i'm still beepin at the moment instead of turnin the indicator off..........lol

The opposite with me, i often give a car driver an angry flash of my indicators

Shep

 

[Bones]

Self cancelling or not it's still a useless method of operating the indicators. All my previous (NON BMW) bikes used a single left hand switch to operate and cancel both indicators perfectly well. After months of use it becomes instinctive but I still don't see why BMW persist with this arragement. Expecting the right hand to operate right indicators, cancel both indicators, operate the brake and the throttle is making life more difficult than it need be. It can be difficult (esp. for new owners) to maitain a partial throttle e.g on roundabouts when cancelling the indicators or using the right indicator. The right hand dexterity required makes pleasuring the misses seem a doddle.

 

[Janie]

that just too much info........................

 

[Patventure]

automatic everything

it might sound like the ramblings of an old fart (which i most certainly am not!) , but i detest these systems which decide for you what should come on and when and for how long! The self cancelling indicators are mildly annoying, but i'd like the option to turn off the headlamp on my bike too. It's a bit too 'health and safety' for my money.

Quite how people drive cars with wipers that decide when they come on is beyond me!

I want control of these things!

Patrick.

 

[wilbjr21]

but i'd like the option to turn off the headlamp on my bike too. It's a bit too 'health and safety' for my money.

But you can do this by manipulating the Indicator Cancel Switch and the RH Indicator Switch - just do a search to find out the sequence and timings.

 

[Packer]

It can be difficult (esp. for new owners) to maitain a partial throttle e.g on roundabouts when cancelling the indicators or using the right indicator.

I can't think of a situation when I would want to use the right indicator or cancel them part way through a roundabout. Maybe I'm suffering from brain fatigue but part way round I would only be wishing to signal left to indicate my intention to leave the roundabout at the next exit.

Having started my riding life on old Brit iron without such niceties as indicators after I came back as a bambi the first machine I bought was my current GS and without the mental "baggage" from using the more usual switchgear I find the BMW layout brilliantly logical.

When I have had standard switchgear machines as loan bikes I really struggle with the delicacy needed to centralise the switch with winter gloves. With the BMW layout every action is a positive stop without having to feel for a detent position.

 

[Bones]

I can't think of a situation when I would want to use the right indicator or cancel them part way through a roundabout. .

OK, bad example, 'cept when riding on the continent which is where most of the bikes are sold. Another situation would be filtering through slow moving multi lane traffic, when delicate throttle control is required, operating the right indicator can be awkward. A longer thumb would be handy

 

[JayGee]

I find the BMW layout brilliantly logical..

But hopelessly unergonomic. Trying to cancel as you wind on the throttle coming off a roundabout, for example, the cancel button dissapperas out of the range of the left thumb.
I used to think beemer riders didn't know how to use indicators untill I got one and realised they are very difficult to use properly.

When I have had standard switchgear machines as loan bikes I really struggle with the delicacy needed to centralise the switch with winter gloves. With the BMW layout every action is a positive stop without having to feel for a detent position..

Most just need a press of the button, you don't have to locate the central detent position.
It would be really good if BMW would offer standard switcghgear as an option on their bikes as many BMW riders like the flappy paddle thingies whilst many who are used to standard (JAP) switchgear hate them.
Mind you, if all we have to moan about are the indicators it MUST be a great bike , who ever heard of harley riders moaning about their indicators!

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

who ever heard of harley riders moaning about their indicators!

That is because they have probably the best set up (at least it makes most sense to me).

A button on the left and right (as per MBW) but no seperate cancel button.

Press once for on and press again for off

Andres

 

[Fanum]

Press once for on and press again for off

Andres

That's what you get with a 'signalminder'

You can still cancel with the cancel button, or the opposite side button as well.......and if you're doing a quick lane change, pushing and holding the button makes the indicators flash double fast for a few seconds to get that little bit more attention

 

[Steve E]

I love my Harley indicators Left for left and right for right, press again to cancel if you need too. Also they self cancel very nicely after a turn , don't quite know how they know when to cancel but far superior to the BMW set up.


Steve

 

[Shep]

I love my Harley indicators Left for left and right for right, press again to cancel if you need too. Also they self cancel very nicely after a turn , don't quite know how they know when to cancel but far superior to the BMW set up.


Steve

I agree very good system, the only real difference is that they allow canceling on the direction buttons, dead simple and works well

Shep

 

[tickle]

the self cancelling indicators are a major safety issue as I see it, and the sooner BMW get rid, the better but I don't suppose they will.

They do self cancel too early on the larger roundabouts for either the 3rd exit or full circle, unless they've gone on too late on the approach. Secondly, if the signal was to be left on in town the signal wouldn't go off until at least a thousand junctions had been passed anyway. The self cancelling signals don't do the job they need to do and I find them to be a complete pain in the arse.

Thanks for the link to motorradinformation e-mail link btw - just the job. There, I've aired my view - thanks for that.

 

[Fanum]

the self cancelling indicators are a major safety issue as I see it, and the sooner BMW get rid, the better but I don't suppose they will.

Sorry, but if there are really people out there who lack the hand coordination to operate a simple button or the ability to judge when to indicate, they shouldn't be allowed on a bike in the first place.

 

[tickle]

Sorry, but if there are really people out there who lack the hand coordination to operate a simple button or the ability to judge when to indicate, they shouldn't be allowed on a bike in the first place.

Here's the relevant content of my e-mail to BMW -............ Sorry if it sounds a bit formal but better to be polite I think .............

I have tried the bike in all manner of traffic situations and come to the conclusion that the self cancelling indicators are a major safety issue.

They self cancel too early on the larger roundabouts for either the 3rd exit or full circle, unless they've gone on too late on the approach. Drivers joining the roundabout from the relevant exits are therefore more inclined to enter the roundabout earlier as a consequence. This may well require unexpected response from the rider.

Secondly the concentration by the rider at this stage of the roundabout is needlessly distracted in order to check if the signal is on and to reapply if necessary. At this time the rider needs to be concentrating on the emerging traffic and the road surface.

Thirdly, if the signal was to be left on in town the signal wouldn't go off until a number of junctions had been passed anyway, therefore negating the potential benefit of a self cancelling signal......................

 

[cookie]

if they are that bad, i'm even more surprised it took me over 1500 mile to notcie their existence