it IS possible to disable the indicator self-cancel

:troll2 Hmmmmmm... Just what the world needs......

Please explain.

Your question and observations were based on your indicators staying on whilst the motor cycle was stationary. That is what they do, it is normal. It is explained fully in the owner's manual:

The turn indicators are cancelled automatically after you have ridden for approximately 10 seconds, or covered a distance of about 200 m.

That answers your 'normality' question.

Your implied question was whether or not this could be overcome. In other words, BUMW is now faced with a two speed world:

(1) Some people want the time lengthened. In general this longer time request seems to centre on a wish that they stay on by about another 50 or so meters, so that they will flash from the 300 meter marker on a motorway, right to the point of exit into the slip road. The reason given is that there are enough distractions going on, without having to remember to re-start the indicators.

(2) Some (you) want the time shortened, so that they do not flash when stationary or, perhaps, that they do not flash permanently when the vehicle is stopped.

My observation merely raised the possibility of you, when stationary, turning the indicator off yourself when you (and not a pre-programmed trigger) adjudged it safe or necessary to do so. In reality, you judging when it is safe to turn off a flashing light is no different to you judging when it is safe (and necessary) to turn it on and / or to change from a stationary position to moving again, to complete your manoeuvre. Both are thought processes and actions which you manage without any input from BuMW at all.

I can only assume that the time you would want the indicator to flash for when stationary will vary on a number of different circumstances? Traffic density being one, I guess? Lay out of the junction, being another, perhaps? What pre-set time period will you ask BuMW for?
 
I'll enter this debate late on and add my 2p's worth!

Some times some of the things people complain about on their GS's confuse me.......

.....a lot of it is stuff that I've grown to accept on the GS as part of the bike, but others seem to find them a real PITA, and it makes me confused to if I've got it wrong and I've overlooked a huge fault in my bike!! :blast :augie

Personally I don't have a problem with the self cancelling indicators, and never really remember a time when it has put my life in danger. I suppose there are times when it has canceled too early...but I find it hard to recall, as I probably just hit them again.

I think the issue here is the duration, not if they are a good thing generally.

I had a Yamaha FJ1200 years ago with self cancelling indicators, and it was a great sysyem, working perfectly.

I would admit that the timing could be longer on the BMW...but it appears the duration can be extended by your dealer, so everyone should be happy...it's there if you forget, but long enough to be cancelled manually in the mean time if you see fit. :thumb2

Deep breath people..step away from the handbags..and relax! :hide


....great thread btw :thumb
 
I'm with Dianese Brave here and I'm really struggling to see what the problem is here.:nenau

Some people think the bike should do EVERYTHING for them and if is doesn't, it should be changed and BuMW are at fault.

You have a brain so feckin use it. If you can't make a decision about controlling your indicators , maybe you shouldn't be allowed out without a carer:comfort

BuMW have designed a system which works just fine and in reality, how hard is it just to hit the indicator again to make sure it's on? I do this all the time and if doing it is your biggest issue of the day, you really need to get out more.

Handbag back in SHMBO's cupboard:D
 
You have a brain so feckin use it.

Most of the ditherers and drivelers won't have read about using brains in their various 'Riding System' manuals though.....

What has it got to that it has to be suggested to someone that he might think of pressing his indicator switch again to keep it on. :confused:

Dear oh f'in dear.
 
Some people think the bike AND UKGSER should do and advise on EVERYTHING for them but they don't so things should be changed so that they do and THAT THE WHOLE WORLD IS AT FAULT AND IT'S NOT FAIR.

You have a brain so feckin use it.

Is what you meant to say, no doubt.
 
Having driven bikes with no indicators and various flavours of self-cancelling I can't see what the fuss is about. Occasionally I need to press the button again, which is no real hardship, but most of the time the self-cancelling system works a treat.

I can't make any sense of the earlier suggestion that it's bloody dangerous. Forgetting to turn them off is bloody dangerous.


Well that won't do will it :blast

Andy....how very dare you come on and post something obvious, sensible and pertinent.....this is the 1200 section you know, they have a reputation to live down to :rob
 
I'm with Dianese Brave here and I'm really struggling to see what the problem is here.:nenau

Some people think the bike should do EVERYTHING for them and if is doesn't, it should be changed and BuMW are at fault.

You have a brain so feckin use it. If you can't make a decision about controlling your indicators , maybe you shouldn't be allowed out without a carer:comfort

BuMW have designed a system which works just fine and in reality, how hard is it just to hit the indicator again to make sure it's on? I do this all the time and if doing it is your biggest issue of the day, you really need to get out more.

Handbag back in SHMBO's cupboard:D

Got to agree with these sentinments, makes you wonder should these people REALLY be allowed on the roads ?

If I had seen this site before I has bought my GSA I would never have got it, as I would have thought it such a terrible machine, wish the mods would boot the stupidity before they damage the bikes reputation to much!
 
What I don't understand is why people should come on here and insult those that are looking for advice on how to use or change a particular feature of their chosen machine. Maybe one or two did go a little bit over the top on explaining how they find the 'early' self cancellation of indicators inconvenient but it is no excuse to start slagging off people you probably don't know.

Personally, I think the op asked a perfectly valid question which was answered, and verified. The forum served it's purpose, there is no need to vilify others because either you don't understand their concern or they haven't fully explained themselves.

I really don't understand why some people need to be so offensive to others when using this media. Is it perhaps little man syndrome? Maybe they were bullied in the playground? Maybe they were the bullys and missing the feeling power they had? Who knows? Psychologists could have a field day working that out!
 
I honestly can't believe this thread:mad:


I recently sold my 08 GSA (losing a considerable amount of money - what happened to BMW's holding their value eh?) for the very reason that I could not get on with the indicators. They are a funny set up and keep switching themsolves off. Now i find out it can be changed!!!

Why didn't BMW send out a recall for this? I am going to write to BMW customer service and demand that they repay the money I lost on my bike.
 
What I don't understand is why people should come on here and insult those that are looking for advice on how to use or change a particular feature of their chosen machine. Maybe one or two did go a little bit over the top on explaining how they find the 'early' self cancellation of indicators inconvenient but it is no excuse to start slagging off people you probably don't know.

Personally, I think the op asked a perfectly valid question which was answered, and verified. The forum served it's purpose, there is no need to vilify others because either you don't understand their concern or they haven't fully explained themselves.

I really don't understand why some people need to be so offensive to others when using this media. Is it perhaps little man syndrome? Maybe they were bullied in the playground? Maybe they were the bullys and missing the feeling power they had? Who knows? Psychologists could have a field day working that out!

Stick around a bit longer and chill :cool:
 
Stick around a bit longer and chill :cool:

And that, I'm afraid to say, is a stock answer on most forums to anyone that objects to others posts. It basically tries to say that the posts were put up in jest and I don't understand, which is, to be frank, bollocks. Some of the posts were obviously posted in jest, but quite a few weren't, IMHO. It also implies that I haven't been here long enough to form an opinion about others behaviours. OK I haven't made many posts but I have been on these forums for nearly two years, long enough, I would have thought, to understand the 'character' of the forum.

There again I may have misunderstood completely, perhaps there is a 'clique' that I not been accepted into :augie
 
And that, I'm afraid to say, is a stock answer on most forums to anyone that objects to others posts. It basically tries to say that the posts were put up in jest and I don't understand, which is, to be frank, bollocks. Some of the posts were obviously posted in jest, but quite a few weren't, IMHO. It also implies that I haven't been here long enough to form an opinion about others behaviours. OK I haven't made many posts but I have been on these forums for nearly two years, long enough, I would have thought, to understand the 'character' of the forum.

There again I may have misunderstood completely, perhaps there is a 'clique' that I not been accepted into :augie


Yes.

Yes, that must be it then.

:blast
 
Brill is this going going on....

is there a way to cancel a non cancelling thread

:blast
 
Brill is this going going on....

is there a way to cancel a non cancelling thread

:blast

Yes, but what you have to do is pick up your PC (with UKGSer showing on the screen) and carry it for 200 yards. The thread should then self-cancel.
 
Yes, but what you have to do is pick up your PC (with UKGSer showing on the screen) and carry it for 200 yards. The thread should then self-cancel.

Mine cancelled too early!

I only have 1M of cable.

Do TT do an extension cable?
 
Yes.

Yes, that must be it then.

:blast

I'm afraid you may have taken the last line of my last message, my somewhat poor attempt at sarcasm, a bit too seriously ;)

However, I can see some of the usual suspects still can't help themselves :)
Never mind, chill guys, when I've bit around a bit longer you'll get used to me :comfort

Bob
 


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