it IS possible to disable the indicator self-cancel

Mine cancelled too early!

I only have 1M of cable.

Do TT do an extension cable?

Ah, you'll have to PM PaulG(BHT) and ask him to reset your thread-cancelling time.

As far as I'm aware, TT do an extension cable, but it's only available from TT(Germany) and they won't ship to the UK, IIRC...
 
Ah, you'll have to PM PaulG(BHT) and ask him to reset your thread-cancelling time.

As far as I'm aware, TT do an extension cable, but it's only available from TT(Germany) and they won't ship to the UK, IIRC...

I asked Paul but he said its a no no.But my Mate said his Sister shagged a bloke who knew an IT bod who........................................................................................................................................................................:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah...................................................................................................................................................................................................................so sort it yerself :nenau
 
I asked Paul but he said its a no no.But my Mate said his Sister shagged a bloke who knew an IT bod who........................................................................................................................................................................:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah...................................................................................................................................................................................................................so sort it yerself :nenau

Yeah, that'd work. :D
 
Please explain.

Your question and observations were based on your indicators staying on whilst the motor cycle was stationary. That is what they do, it is normal. It is explained fully in the owner's manual:

The turn indicators are cancelled automatically after you have ridden for approximately 10 seconds, or covered a distance of about 200 m.

That answers your 'normality' question.

Your implied question was whether or not this could be overcome. In other words, BUMW is now faced with a two speed world:

(1) Some people want the time lengthened. In general this longer time request seems to centre on a wish that they stay on by about another 50 or so meters, so that they will flash from the 300 meter marker on a motorway, right to the point of exit into the slip road. The reason given is that there are enough distractions going on, without having to remember to re-start the indicators.

(2) Some (you) want the time shortened, so that they do not flash when stationary or, perhaps, that they do not flash permanently when the vehicle is stopped.

My observation merely raised the possibility of you, when stationary, turning the indicator off yourself when you (and not a pre-programmed trigger) adjudged it safe or necessary to do so. In reality, you judging when it is safe to turn off a flashing light is no different to you judging when it is safe (and necessary) to turn it on and / or to change from a stationary position to moving again, to complete your manoeuvre. Both are thought processes and actions which you manage without any input from BuMW at all.

I can only assume that the time you would want the indicator to flash for when stationary will vary on a number of different circumstances? Traffic density being one, I guess? Lay out of the junction, being another, perhaps? What pre-set time period will you ask BuMW for?
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Question ?

My indicators stay on all the time if I am static.

Is this normal, mine only seem to work on distance. Is this another adjustable thing or is the (my !) bike programmed to stop the clock when static ?

09 GSA.

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So, the answer to my original (above) question is: "Yes, they do stay on when static."

Appologies for not reading the manual word for word. I'll endeavour to try harder and thanks for your lengthy and extremely enlightening reply.
 
Appologies for not reading the manual word for word. I'll endeavour to try harder and thanks for your lengthy and extremely enlightening reply.

Don't apologise to me, I don't write it, BuMW does. But accepted, anyway.

Still interested to know though how quickly you would like the indicators to self-cancel when stationary.

Others have given us a rough time of, "About an extra 50m at motorway speeds", for staying on. So, to complete the picture, what's yours for turning them off when standing still? 5 seconds, 15 seconds, thirty, a minute and then off?
 
Don't apologise to me, I don't write it, BuMW does. But accepted, anyway.

Still interested to know though how quickly you would like the indicators to self-cancel when stationary.

Others have given us a rough time of, "About an extra 50m at motorway speeds", for staying on. So, to complete the picture, what's yours for turning them off when standing still? 5 seconds, 15 seconds, thirty, a minute and then off?


I did not say I wanted them to do anything, nor did I imply anything as per your lengthy reply. I simply asked if they normally stay on when static. I actually like the self cancelling thing and deal with it when it happens when not wanted.
All I wanted to know was do they stay on when static but in all honesty I wish I hadn't asked and will think twice before asking any more questions. :eek:
 
The simple solution is to ride faster. Much faster.

In doing so relatavistic effects (stuff Einstein came up with) would come into play and for the rider time would pass more slowly than it would for the observer. By varying the bike's velocity the period the indicators stay on (from the perspective of other road users) could be adjusted from the usual 10 sec or whatever upto a peroid of perhaps several days (though of course the rider would just be passing Uranus by the time the second flash started). For the rider everything would appear normal, at least in terms of flashing, though the lack of oxygen in deep space may make the engine run even leaner than usual, despite whatever power commander program was employed.

So, apart from the need to invent a star-drive, the problem is solved and everyone is happy and there is no need to get your head around anything as complicated as pushing a button, or witter and whinge about utter trivia as a simple GCSE in astrophysics will soon make the solution obvious.

Unfortunately the indicator bulbs may also need changing to account for their apparent colour shift as you wind it on in top.

Simples:thumb
 
The simple solution is to ride faster. Much faster......

.....Simples:thumb

Blimey, I wish I'd said that.

Anyway being realy peed of with the buttons (not the flashes), today I fitted another indicator cancel switch on the left handlebar. Its a simple button that is positioned beside my left index finger and although I haven't been out for a ride yet it is a lot easier to use with a gentle sideways push of the finger. Piccys if anyone is interested.

If no one is interested, the reply only needs to be - "no, I/we are not interested" :thumb :hide ;)
 
If no one is interested, the reply only needs to be - "no, I/we are not interested" :thumb :hide ;)

No joking. I would be interested to see that. Not because I want to cancel my indicators, but I am looking for a suitable button to control a camera.

I was hoping to use something like the Autocom PTT switch, which I have in place, slung under the grip, but there is not enough room.
 
Deviating ever so slightly :topic, but I have a Kissan signalminder on my lebbenfiddy, and it's about perfect....

You can select the time it stay on for, then it autocancels, however, (and this is the reason for posting this) if you APPLY THE BRAKES, it suspends the time-countdown.

Ok, it's not totally perfect, cos you either have to re-apply the indicator when sitting at lights when you're turning off or keep the hand/foot brake on, but it does mean that if you're slowing on the brakes (which you probably wouldn't do in 'ideal' riding, but we'll let the anal types take that one up:rolleyes:) approaching a junction, the indicators stay on :thumb2

I wouldn't have thought it would be too hard for BWM to change the programming slightly and add a feed signal to the flasher unit/ecu to enable this on the 1200's :nenau

PS one of the other things that the signal minder does is give you a 'rapid flash' function for lane changing....hold the indicator button and for the first few seconds, the indicator flashes double time......then settles into normal time.

Sounds daft, but quite effective IME :thumb2

It's about time someone brought out a magic black box that you 12 owners could plug and play, to sort out all these little gremlins and foibles that you all seem to get so unreasonably het up about.....:augie

Available at Imatwat, priced £299.99, delivery time about 6 months sir :thumb
 
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Available at Imatwat, priced £299.99, delivery time about 6 months sir :thumb

Thats roughly what I paid for this....without labour or stealth tax of course...

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Deviating ever so slightly :topic, but I have a Kissan signalminder on my lebbenfiddy, and it's about perfect....

You can select the time it stay on for, then it autocancels, however, (and this is the reason for posting this) if you APPLY THE BRAKES, it suspends the time-countdown.

Ok, it's not totally perfect, cos you either have to re-apply the indicator when sitting at lights when you're turning off or keep the hand/foot brake on, but it does mean that if you're slowing on the brakes (which you probably wouldn't do in 'ideal' riding, but we'll let the anal types take that one up:rolleyes:) approaching a junction, the indicators stay on :thumb2

I wouldn't have thought it would be too hard for BWM to change the programming slightly and add a feed signal to the flasher unit/ecu to enable this on the 1200's :nenau

PS one of the other things that the signal minder does is give you a 'rapid flash' function for lane changing....hold the indicator button and for the first few seconds, the indicator flashes double time......then settles into normal time.

Sounds daft, but quite effective IME :thumb2

It's about time someone brought out a magic black box that you 12 owners could plug and play, to sort out all these little gremlins and foibles that you all seem to get so unreasonably het up about.....:augie

Available at Imatwat, priced £299.99, delivery time about 6 months sir :thumb

i had one on my 1150 and thought it was really good, particularly the fast flash. i'd rather like one for my 12oo.
 
Deviating ever so slightly :topic, but I have a Kissan signalminder on my lebbenfiddy, and it's about perfect....

You can select the time it stay on for, then it autocancels, however, (and this is the reason for posting this) if you APPLY THE BRAKES, it suspends the time-countdown......

.......Available at Imatwat, priced £299.99, delivery time about 6 months sir :thumb

FFS ..I just saw Cookies reply and Googled it....I thought this post was another wind up...

God help me...
 
Only 8 pages of whining, drivel and verbal handbags about the feckin indicators.......that annual subscription is top value.:D
 
I tried out that extra indicator cacel button today (as on Page 7 Post 113) and it is brilliant. The right hand cancel button was the thing that peed me off the most about the GSA.
When winding it up out of a roundabout now, I just need to flex my left index finger which, unlike my right hand, has nothing else to do at the time and its off. Brilliant.

Now, whats the best oil for the second service.....
 
I took my 57 plate R1200RT in for service on Monday, & the tech opened up the CIP via the diagnostic kit. Very simple operation; it's just a series of settings with radio buttons.

The indicators can be extended by time & distance, or the option I chose, which is to switch off the self-cancel altogether.

The clock has a 12 hour/24 hour format option, & I chose 24 hours.

The tyre pressure set up can be set to PSI, which I opted for.

The ambient temperature can be set to Farenheit.

The "miles left in the tank" can be set to kilometres, fuel figures can also be "metricated" but those I naturally left in Imperial.

Once the choices have been made it's a simple "set" on the diagnostic kit, & job done.

The tech did state, with a wry smile "I suppose now I've shown you this, I'll be changing everbody's" - as he said, when done at a Service it's no big deal; the longest part in the procedure is firing up the computer - 1970's Sinclair springs to mind.

I took my GSA back next day for more of the same, so he was right about that. :beerjug:

Hope that's of use
 
I took my GSA back next day for more of the same, so he was right about that. :beerjug:

Hope that's of use

It is... Which dealer was this, and also what year is your GSA ?

FWIW, Bahnstormer informed me that it was not changeable...
 
I have the Perfect solution to the problem of self cancel indicators - but it mainly comes in orange
 


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