sagalout
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Whilst I agree with this, I still buy the OEM parts, in the (probably misplaced) hope that if anything big goes bang out of warranty, BMW might look more favourably on it / have less excuses.
LC GS - Observations while servicing.
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Whilst I agree with this, I still buy the OEM parts, in the (probably misplaced) hope that if anything big goes bang out of warranty, BMW might look more favourably on it / have less excuses.
JimVonBaden
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You can set for a maximum of 2 years and 24K miles.
The dealer will not do this for you, unless you find an unusually decent dealer.
Jim
WindyChuffer
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How much is an OEM filter?
How much is an after market one?
How much are you saving when you tot up the total cost of ownership (where the lions share ia depreciation) ?
How much confidence do you have that the aftermarket filter won't fuck up your engine?
Is the price difference on filters worth any such risk?
No brainer to me; OEM filters win hands down.
WindyChuffer
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Fucking hell thats cheap. So lets say an aftermarket filter is half the price, saving six quid. Hmmm.....buttons....tiny % of TCO.....not a risk worth taking by a long shot.
Mahle manufacture he OEM item and also sell their own branded version of the same thing. What is the difference?
WindyChuffer
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So what.
What matters is that they are made to the same specification.
If you can be 100% sure of that, go ahead.
If not....hmmm.
Er, hm... are you asking whether BMW are contractually bound to perform routine servicing on their bikes during the warranty period, or whether the cost of routine-service items is covered by warranty?
To the first: Not sure, but if they refused, and say, the engine failed, they'd look rather silly in court. Not to mention the potential PR fallout.
To the second: Nope... but if only it were that easy!
Much appreciated!
You won't regret it. My advice: put yourself on the notification list for all new software updates. The list of functionality for K001-chassis bikes (like the LC) is growing all the time.
WindyChuffer
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I see you are dodging the questions though...
In context of this thread, what makes you think your questions contribute enough value that I'm compelled to answer them?
Netiquette 101: There is an element of choice involved in threads like this.
If I post something from my knowledge base, I do so for people who care to listen.
Said knowledge is primarily applicable to me. If it happens to be applicable to anyone else, that's why I posted it. If not, whoever's reading is free to walk away.
I don't do money-back guarantees. If that's what you want, maybe you shouldn't be riding motorcycles.
So, did you really need this explained in Simple English?
Or are you just one of those sad individuals who gets off on telling people what to do?
WindyChuffer
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In context of this thread, what makes you think your questions contribute enough value that I'm compelled to answer them?
Netiquette 101: There is an element of choice involved in threads like this.
If I post something from my knowledge base, I do so for people who care to listen.
Said knowledge is primarily applicable to me. If it happens to be applicable to anyone else, that's why I posted it. If not, whoever's reading is free to walk away.
I don't do money-back guarantees. If that's what you want, maybe you shouldn't be riding motorcycles.
So, did you really need this explained in Simple English?
Or are you just one of those sad individuals who gets off on telling people what to do?
Gees who pissed on your chips? I posed some valid questions to stimulate discussion and you seem to have taken to them like someone has slapped you round the face with a smelly fish. Chillax dude. Its a fekkin discussion forum; keep yer hair on !
Er, hm... are you asking whether BMW are contractually bound to perform routine servicing on their bikes during the warranty period, or whether the cost of routine-service items is covered by warranty?
To the first: Not sure, but if they refused, and say, the engine failed, they'd look rather silly in court. Not to mention the potential PR fallout.
To the second: Nope... but if only it were that easy!
Actually more like if you are contractually required to have/pay only a BMW dealer or certified BMW mechanic to perform the required maintenance during the warranty period in order to keep the warranty in force? I have read posts on this forum where people believe that to be the case and I was just asking if that is the case in S.A. (or the U.K for that matter)? Some here in the US believe this is the case when it is not, in fact manufacturers are specifically and legally prohibited from doing so. Therefore I do all maintenance and services, which I'm capable of doing, myself documenting the mileage. date, and save all receipts. Actually this favors BMW because if I was required to ride to my dealer, almost 4 hours each way, for them to do routine maintenance in order to keep my warranty in force I simply wouldn't buy a BMW.
The only observations that I have had while GS LC servicing is through the little window between the sales room and the workshop at my dealers
So Windy, do you think that Mahle would have two different lines to make the same filter or simply different packaging with their own logo and BMW logo and part number?
fredaroony
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The only observations that I have had while GS LC servicing is through the little window between the sales room and the workshop at my dealers
I don't trust any of the dealers in my area as I bought two new bikes in the last 10 months and had issues on the 1st service. The first bike was a major drama and so bad BMW gave me one year extra factory warranty for free.
The second (new GS) the mechanic filled the oil so much it went right over the sight glass which is just a joke. I came home the did the whole service over again just to be safe.
That's a very good question.
I believe it varies from territory to territory, simply because legislation varies from territory to territory.
My LC was the first motorcycle I have ever bought that was still within any kind of warranty period, and having to hand the bike over for servicing to keep that warranty, frayed my nerves every single time. (I have diagnostic-technician qualifications from GM and Toyota, so I've spent enough time in workshops to know how appalling the standard of most 'servicing' is.)
Over here in SA, the motor franchises are (currently) free to dictate that the warranty is forfeit if the vehicle is serviced by anyone other than the dealer network.
A Consumer Protection Act was passed a couple of years ago, but I don't think it makes provision to nullify that dictate. (Any SA resident more familiar with the CPA than I am, feel free to jump in!)
Suffice to say that as soon as the warranty expired, I siezed the opportunity to not deliver my bike into anyone else's paws again.
The warranty period wasn't all bad, though... in 18 months, I've done 63 000 Km (total 80 000 so far), and all parts that failed were duly replaced.
These included the upper steering triple clamp (the bearing started to develop excessive play), the front brake and clutch reservoir covers (persistent fluid weepage), and the rear tyre-pressure sensor (battery failure).
Don't get me started on that... it seems to be a problem everywhere in the world.
The trouble for (in ascending order) the workshop foreman, the service manager, and the chief accountant for the franchise, is that every pair of hands that's away attending training is one less pair of hands that could be used to dump in quarts of oil and generate cash.
When I was with Toyota, I watched a mechanic who was rebuilding an engine tighten down cylinder head studs without using a torque wrench or angle attachment. I made a strongly-worded suggestion to the service manager that the technician involved was in dire need of education. He looked at me as if I were stupid, and said - quite seriously! - "My guys know what they're doing".
No water pump Nick?
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