Lower bars (Renthal FatBars) fitted

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Gents,

I've ummmed-and-aaaared a long time about the bars on my bike. A very long time I bought a set of Renthals from my "local" friendly MX shop. At the time, Dave only had a set of blue anodised bars in...Yikes I thought, but hey, it'd be good for a laugh. :D
The bars have to be the FatBars or the Twinwalls as Tobers has got as the BMW bars are thicker in the center.

I've followed the thread This weekend I will mostly be fitting Renthal Twinwalls with great interest, but hadn't found the guts and/or the time to do it. I also want to keep my brush guards on, but as it's summer now I can live without them. :)

Anyhooo.. Yesterday evening I finally pulled my thumb out and got on with it. It took me maybe 1.5h in total, and that's taking it very steady, including "tapping the holes" in the new bars.

The new bars are 80cm width, whereas the OEM bars should be 83cm (forgot to measure on the bike), so the new ones are a bit narrower, but as they're far forward, they feel quite the same. I might cut them a bit to make them narrower, but that's something for another time.

The holes on the LHS were quite easy to make, I found a very sharp drill (surprise!) and it cut very nicely into the (thick) alloy. The original screws are self tapping, so I just carefully screwed them in, reversing once in a while to let the "cutting dust" out, and easy-peasy; new holes. :)

The best way to assemble/disassemble is to remove the electrickery controls first, then the grips, then the mirrors/levers. :) Reverse to assemble.

Big thanks to Tobers and Mouse (I think) who've done the initial research. :)
:beerjug:

The result is a bike that feels much smaller, and nimbler. The bars also feel much sturdier and it feels like the bike is much more solid. Riding position is more forward, which is what I like (I don't have a plank up my **se ;) ), it's probably a little less comfortable, but more focused. Lookswise the bars look quite good (even if they're anodised blue!), the bike looks more focused and "means mo' bidniss!". I'll report more once I've put some miles on it: Thinking of that, this might have been a bad thing to do the w/e before the National Rallye!

First, the difference between the OEM and the new bars.
 

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The view from the riders position is tihs. I've put the RHS controls a bit too much forward; I guess I'll have to adjust that some evening this week. The LHS controls are governed by the holes in the bars, but the RHS one's are "just screwed on".
 

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And, a bit further away it looks like this:
 

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The mirrors are in a bit of a strange position now, as one has got ones head further forward. So what I'd like to do is to push the mirror-stalks forward, and then adjust the mirrors, but they've run out of adjustment already. I might have to put on a set of Duke-mirrors as some have done... :D
Front-side view.
 

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And... finally from the side.. :)

I am off to work now, so you have a good 1h or so to post the mandatory banter. :D
 

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TheJoker said:
Gents,

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The new bars are 80cm width, whereas the OEM bars should be 83cm
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Joker,

Looking at the first photo, original bars are a good brick width shorter than replacement bars so I doubt the replacement bars are narrower (unless you used some head shrinking potion during fitting process :) ).

Ottoman.
 
Re: Re: Lower bars (Renthal FatBars) fitted

Ottoman said:
Joker,

Looking at the first photo, original bars are a good brick width shorter than replacement bars so I doubt the replacement bars are narrower (unless you used some head shrinking potion during fitting process :) ).

Ottoman.

Sharp eyes there Ottoman. And you're right on the fact that the actual OEM bars are narrower. However, the OEM bar width it increased by the (HUUGE) bar-ends, which actually go in 30mm into the grips, thus adding a total of 60mm to the actual width.

If you look at this picture taken by Tobers:
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(Rudely linked by me without permission)
You'll see that the bar-ends have been put on a lathe to get them slimmer. The "shiny-bit" (technical term), was originally the same diameter as the bars outer diameter itself... :)

And I don't have any bar-ends on at the moment, so I don't have that 60mm extra on my current setup. :)
 
Mouse said:
Perhaps those figures are the overall length of the bar - the OE bars have more extreme bends in them.

Looks good :)

Cheers, Mouse!

The width is actually not very scientific, I should add. It's just stringing a measuring tape from bar-end-to-bar-end, then adding the 60mm onto the OEM width...

... :D
 
Riding it.

Having done 20miles to work this morning these are my first impressions.

I can feel the vibrations much more through the bars (I reckon the OEM bars weren't that robust, and adding the very heavy bar-end-weights to the ends reduces the vibration at the expense of precision).
I can feel the bike's movement much more precise - Renthal FatBars are truly cool.
The feeling when sitting on the bike is more ON the bike, rather than IN the bike. The feeling kind of feels more like sitting on a (fat) motocross bike. All in all, the riding feels more active which is just the effect I wanted.
I also want to have my lower arms pointing downwards rather than horizontal or upwards.

It actually feels like a new bike to me :)

We'll see how I get on in the long run.

Cheers! :beerjug: :beerjug:
 
Joker, it looks very trick with the blue on blue. Please keep us informed about the bar buzz factor as you ride it more.
 
Nice one, thanks Joker :)

Think I will be looking to do the same some time soon as I too would appreciate a more 'comitted' riding position (even if it's at the expense of a bit of comfort).

Gotta admit, when you talked about only being able to get blue anodised bars visions of 'Bandits' complete with anodised bolts, bars, indicators etc. etc......... came to mind :eek:
However, IMHO, they actually work very well on your bike :)

Also, maybe it's just me but, the GS looks so much better with the rear rack and pillion seat off :thumb

Andres
 
Cheers, another one who doesn't like the plasticy-look applied to the GS then :D
I admit to having images of bandits in my head before I paid for the bars too! HAHAH. But now when the bars are on, I'm actually starting to like it. It's a very nice colour (compared to say, lilac!) and it blends in fairly well.

I've now done the odd 100miles with the bars on and I'm liking it more and more. Especially as my new route to the new offices take me down some very small roads - PERFECT for the GS (without the pipe-holder) :D ;) :D

So far I can recommend doing it if you're considering lower bars - it's a very easy mod to do, and it's completely reversible should you not get on with it. If you've got the tools (*all* torx sizes and 3.5mm drill) the only cost is a set of bars, which can be sold if you don't like them.

It's like having a new bike :D :D

:beerjug:
 
Outtomuch, Just noticed your sig!
Supermoto's not a wheel size it's a state of mind

I had a Husky SM570R before the GS, and I *loved* riding the SMR :D But it was too focused. With the new bars, the bike feels a bit more like the SMR :D Not as wobbly and uncomfortable, but you get the same kind of feeling that you want to chuck the bike into corners, rather than lean your body over like with a sports bike. :D
 
TheJoker said:
With the new bars, the bike feels a bit more like the SMR :D Not as wobbly and uncomfortable, but you get the same kind of feeling that you want to chuck the bike into corners, rather than lean your body over like with a sports bike. :D

Cool :cool:

That's precisely what I'm after, too many years riding SMs to ride any other way ;)

Last SM I had was a highly tuned 640cc CCM, a bit lardy but a monster none the less. Did some NORA rounds on it but far too scary for me :eek: so relegated myself to hill climbing it - something I'm planning to do a next year with the GS for a laugh :D

Andres
 
A month and 1500 miles later..

I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it!

:D :beerjug:

I did the National Rally with the new bars, and the only thing, after almost 24h on the bike, I can complain about is the slight vibrations.
As the bars are much stiffer than the OEM bars (and I don't have any bar-ends on at the moment) the Renthals transmit the bike's vibrations much more exactly to your hands than the "wobblier and heavier" OEM bars.
While this is a "Good Thing"(tm) normally, it did numb my hands after the National Rally - in fact, they're still a bit numb.
(NOTE: I've used sanders and other vibrating "stuff" along with the bike, and I can't say how much/little is due to the bars).

Positive sides are such things as:
- More "bike"-feel (not having "wobbly" bars high up :P)
- Bike feels smaller
- Handling feels more exact
- Easier to move around on the bike
- Looks nicer (subjective I know:D)

Will I leave them on? YES!
Future mods: Perhaps bar-ends and/or handguards. :)
 
I have two different "Honda bend" fatbars in my garage at the moment, courtesy of a mate who has lent me them for appraisal. Hopefully trying them out at the w/e. One set is slightly higher than the other, but both are the same sweep, which is far more comfortable than the OEM bars IMHO. Thanks for the warning about the bar ends, will be plundering my old handguard parts bin later.
Mark
 


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