Mapsource - inserting waypoints HELP.....!!!!!!!!

Dave56

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Can someone please help me when creating waypoints with my Mapsource (V.7) for my 2610.
When I`m cereating a route and inserting waypoints along my proposed route on the map, how the bloody hell do I get them to appear in the Waypoints viewing window in the correct order. At present they seem to appear in alphabetical order so when selecting them and creating the route it sends me all over the place.
It seems that as I create the waypoint I have to make a paper/pen note of it and then prior to creating the route re-organise the whole list of waypoints in the correct order.
Surely this is not the correct way of doing it.
If anybody can help I`d really appreciate it...............:thumb
 
Waypoints are a mixed blessing. I find them more plague than profit sometimes.

Question: How may waypoints (as opposed to viapoints) do you actually need on each route?

For instance, let's say you want a day's ride of three hundred miles, from one hotel A to another called B, via, a museum in town X and a viewpoint on road Y.

I would find all four points on the map. Then, using Route Tool, simply join them up manually in the correct order and save the route as: 'To B from A via X and Y" or "From Calais to Dijon, via museum and view'. The plotted route would then take me past the museum and the view point, without a doubt. I might then, create Favourites (which are only waypoints) in the route called:

Hotel A
Hotel B
Museum X
Viewpoint Y

The four locations will then appear in my favourites on the GPS device. So that if I went off route, or decided to miss out the museum, I could later simply click on either hotel B or viewpoint and the device will take me there.


ALTERNATIVE


Open Mapsource on your PC.

Click on Waypoint Tool

Click on wherever the points on the map you want to go to, in any order you like.

Little black flags will appear on the map. These are the Waypoints you are creating but they are not joined up by any route at all.

As you create them, they will also appear in the box on the left of the Mapsource screen, in exactly the order you pinned them onto the map. For instance:

Calais, Lyon, Paris, Bruxelles, Madrid, London. Unless you wanted to to the cities in that order, it would be a crazy route.

Now, in the box to the left, highlight all the cities, so they turn blue. Do this by left clicking on the first (Calais) - it turns blue. Now hold down the UP arrow key on the keyboard and left click on the last city, London. All the cites are now blue.

Now, right click in the middle of the blue box and select: 'Create route using selected waypoints'. Your PC will then join the wapoints up in the most logical order, using the Preferences you have set.

You can now change the order or drag the route around (using the Selection tool) as much as you like.

You don't even have to have all the cites in. You can just highlight, say four, of the cities by holding down Ctrl and left clicking. You PC will then create a route joining just these four cities up, leaving the two other cities as simple waypoints which will appear in your Favourites.

GOOD TIP 1:

Play with the thing, using say a map of the area around your house over 100 square miles. This is easier as you can imagine it and see what the programme is doing.

Play with cutting and pasting way points or chunks of routes into another route.

Muck around in Route Properties.

Change Preferences, to see what differences it makes.

Re-order them manually. Create folders, with several separate routes in.

Send routes and waypoints to the device. Turn it on and see what happens and how they appear.

You can't break it.

GOOD TIP 2:

Don't make single massive routes, involving days upon days of travel. Break them up into bite sized chunks. 400 miles is plenty.

GOOD TIP 3:

Keep playing with it. Suddenly it will all click into place.

GOOD TIP 4:

You really cannot break it.

GOOD TIP 5: It is so much easier creating routes, using Route Tool. It takes a bit longer but you, and not a dumd device, chooses exactly where you want to go. But, the same dumb device is very good at sorting masses of data.... so don't be too hard on it.

GOOD TIP 6:

Ignore all of the above if I have completely misunderstood your problem.
 
When you have the Waypoints in the box on the left hand side, if you highlight them all with the shift key and mouse, and right click on them,it puts all the Waypoints in a fresh box.If you left click with your Mouse on a Waypoint and then click on one of the small arrows on the left hand side,it moves that Waypoint up or down the list,so you can get the Waypoints in order for your route.
 
Sorry I should have said that once you have right clicked the highlighted Waypoints you select create route using selected Waypoints, this gives you the box with the arrows.
 
routes and waypoints

Brilliant .....Thank you.
Another tip - if you KNOW where you want to go but the software gives you odd names which you may not recognise then name the waypoints 01, 02, 03, 09, 10, 11 etc instead. That way you can put them in the right order easily, especially if you are constructing a circular route.
Similarly if you are going on a tour, name the routes 01, 02, 03 etc then they appear in the order you are going to use them and you don't have to struggle to remember unpronounceable places which you are going to/from.
Do not number them 1, 2, 3, ... you will see what happens when a stupid computer puts numbers in it's own "logical" order.:rolleyes: if you do...
Rgds Dave
 
Brilliant .....Thank you.
Another tip - if you KNOW where you want to go but the software gives you odd names which you may not recognise then name the waypoints 01, 02, 03, 09, 10, 11 etc instead.
Do not number them 1, 2, 3, ... you will see what happens when a stupid computer puts numbers in it's own "logical" order.:rolleyes: if you do...
Rgds Dave

As Waypoints appear in Favourites, the GPS device will always (by default) display them in the order that is geographically closest to you at any one moment.

For instance, when leaving home: HOME will be number one on the list. As you ride away it will drop down the list and the hotel that you are riding towards will move up the list.
 


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