Kickstart1
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Evening , R1200GS 2012 brake fail light on motoscan says code error 5e59. Has anyone cured or has a fix for this?
Motoscan fault code
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a while ago a chap called Tim tried to launch nuclear missiles - we didn't do much of that and it escalated into stuff like thus
| Code | Label | ECU | ECU Label | |
| 5E59 | DSC: Control module: recode | dsc_85 | Dynamic stability control MK60 E5 | |
| 5E59 | ABS-DSC: Coding error | dsc_mk60 | Stability system MK60 | |
| 5E59 | DSC: Wheel-speed sensor, plausibility, front right | dxc8 | Dynamic stability control DSC8 | |
| 5E59 | DSC: Wheel speed, plausibility, front right | dxc_83 | Dynamic stability control PlusDSC8 | |
| 5E59 | DSC control unit internal fault | dsc_56 | Stability system EBC_450 | |
| 5E59 | DSC: Wheel-speed sensor, plausibility, front right | dsc_60 | Dynamic stability controlDSC8 | |
| 5E59 | DSC: Wheel speed, plausibility, front right | dsc_60pp | Dynamic stability control EHB3 | |
| 5E59 | DSC: Control module: recode | dsc_87 | Dynamic stability controlMK60 | |
| 5E59 | DSC: Wheel speed, plausibility, front right | dxc8_p | Dynamic Stability Control DSC8 Plus | |
| 5E59 | DSC: Wheel speed, plausibility, front right | dxc_70 | Dynamic stability control EHB3 | |
| 5E59 | DSC: Wheel speed, plausibility, front right | dxc_90 | Dynamic Stability Control DSC8 Plus | |
| 5E59 | ABS: Coding error | MRIABS2 | Integral ABS 2 |
As usual ARSE-Bot-US as useful as a chocolate Tea pot
@Kickstart1 Probably doing some diagnostics without a computer as far as bulbs go !!
Open it up look at it and DIAGNOSE It !! Use an Incandescant bulb NOT an LED or Voltmeter
It's either wires. switches or bulbs
And If you are not able to??
Take it to someone who can!!
@Kickstart1 Probably doing some diagnostics without a computer as far as bulbs go !!
Open it up look at it and DIAGNOSE It !! Use an Incandescant bulb NOT an LED or Voltmeter
It's either wires. switches or bulbs
And If you are not able to??
Take it to someone who can!!
Kickstart1
Registered user
Have some respect you Mongrel, didn't your parents/guardian teach you that if you've nothing positive or nice to say keep your mouth shut.
It's folk like you that bikers and human race a bad name.
And for your information the bike has been In two separate workshops one a BM dealer and it still has the fault.
It's folk like you that bikers and human race a bad name.
And for your information the bike has been In two separate workshops one a BM dealer and it still has the fault.
when a dealer flashes the bikes entire software with a plug it in (and go to tea) automated i-level update its odd - whilst it usually shows an ABS update the system never applies it
for old fossils dealers like to pretend its not an option - and indeed the current system can't update old bikes or do much outside a service reset and a bit of basic diagnostics
to do an i-level software update or retrofit options they can get the old tool out the cupboard but since 2018 they pretend they don't have it and even fewer have the guys left that worked with it frequently
few videos out there but the electrics on a K1300 is almost identical to the old GS's
check around
3 mins 15
6 mins 37
old GS in foreign
for old fossils dealers like to pretend its not an option - and indeed the current system can't update old bikes or do much outside a service reset and a bit of basic diagnostics
to do an i-level software update or retrofit options they can get the old tool out the cupboard but since 2018 they pretend they don't have it and even fewer have the guys left that worked with it frequently
few videos out there but the electrics on a K1300 is almost identical to the old GS's
check around
3 mins 15
6 mins 37
old GS in foreign
Well Why don't Y'all just Beg Mah Pardon there ,MaaassSaaaahh!!
Hang on until we plug in our Bluetooth Mind reading set up and LEARN what the hell has gone on before !!
You want Help????
Then:- Explain the Problem and the Processes that you or a dealer have carried out, so far !!
Not " R1200GS 2012 brake fail light on motoscan says code error 5e59. Has anyone cured or has a fix for this?"
and Pay a little, Subscribe and contribute to the forum!!
By all means you go ahead follow the BOT-US above and have fun!!
It's amazing how many people have the fucknugget on Ignore !!
I didn't spot the point about your brake light not working - why wasn't that in the title
the brake light power and switching comes out of the ZFE (central chassis electronics - a box if tricks under the tank), they are beginning to die frequently - with many noticing the brake light issues before anything else
you can fit secondhand parts - but you will come a cropper if the donor isn't coded the same - whilst motoscan can turn on and off most features - he doesn't support VO changes - if the VO isn't matching in the DME, ZFE, and KI Cluster, certain features won't behave - fiddling with the bikes VO is more complex - HEX GS911 have some ability here, but you'd need to go via support and ask if they can help (or hope when it makes a back up of a failing ZFE it come out usable)
a fully loaded UK GSA of that era had a VO (vehicle order) like this - with bold affecting CANBUS comms around the bike (or features not working / providing some errors in later diagnostics)
X0135 Control, operating concept
X0321 Headlight left asymetric
X0326 Speedometer mph
X0350 Exhaust system, chrome
X0381 Operating instructions, English
X0416 ESA
X0430 Safety pack
X0432 Equipment package 2
X0519 Heated handlebar grips
X0530 RDC
X0539 On-board computer
X0562 Additional headlight
X0590 Direction indicator LED white
X0603 Alarm system
X0630 I-ABS generation 2
X0650 ASC
X0680 Case holder, aluminium case
X0736 National version Great Britain
chassis tools like this - that can get your VO - might be down due to summer closure / IT upgrades at the factory
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the brake light power and switching comes out of the ZFE (central chassis electronics - a box if tricks under the tank), they are beginning to die frequently - with many noticing the brake light issues before anything else
you can fit secondhand parts - but you will come a cropper if the donor isn't coded the same - whilst motoscan can turn on and off most features - he doesn't support VO changes - if the VO isn't matching in the DME, ZFE, and KI Cluster, certain features won't behave - fiddling with the bikes VO is more complex - HEX GS911 have some ability here, but you'd need to go via support and ask if they can help (or hope when it makes a back up of a failing ZFE it come out usable)
a fully loaded UK GSA of that era had a VO (vehicle order) like this - with bold affecting CANBUS comms around the bike (or features not working / providing some errors in later diagnostics)
X0135 Control, operating concept
X0321 Headlight left asymetric
X0326 Speedometer mph
X0350 Exhaust system, chrome
X0381 Operating instructions, English
X0416 ESA
X0430 Safety pack
X0432 Equipment package 2
X0519 Heated handlebar grips
X0530 RDC
X0539 On-board computer
X0562 Additional headlight
X0590 Direction indicator LED white
X0603 Alarm system
X0630 I-ABS generation 2
X0650 ASC
X0680 Case holder, aluminium case
X0736 National version Great Britain
chassis tools like this - that can get your VO - might be down due to summer closure / IT upgrades at the factory
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Kickstart1
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Thank you Botus for your help and advice thus far.
The current status is that the dealer has flashed the bike and it appears from what I gather is that a glitch had occurred and many Esa options had been deactivated, these have been initiated again and the brake light now works as it should, however brake fail light on constant and abs doesn't work?
They've offered to do a full re install software. But I am skeptical as this may cause more problems than I currently have.
The abs pump cycles and works when pumping the pedal when in test mode so I am informed.
They are sure it is a code error somewhere within!
The current status is that the dealer has flashed the bike and it appears from what I gather is that a glitch had occurred and many Esa options had been deactivated, these have been initiated again and the brake light now works as it should, however brake fail light on constant and abs doesn't work?
They've offered to do a full re install software. But I am skeptical as this may cause more problems than I currently have.
The abs pump cycles and works when pumping the pedal when in test mode so I am informed.
They are sure it is a code error somewhere within!
if the bike is std AKA its not been molested and has all its original parts (another reason to check the VO - whilst few do it on bikes - stuff can be added after the event - if a dealer does it it becomes official and the world stays round... but if extras have been added outside the BMW loop it can get ugly if they subsequently flash a module or update the whole bike
if its std and they really want to flash the whole bike its only a 20 mins plus a quick kick of the ESA (if fitted) otherwise its only 10 mins workshop time - it can't do anything its only putting a fresh copy of a few tiny files or adding a tiny update then coding all the features as BMW built the bike...
its always a good idea to have the most recent - but dealers like to pretend its hard work or not a thing that can be done
if stuff is broken its broken - the update can't make it worse - and at least you start working from a known base
if its std and they really want to flash the whole bike its only a 20 mins plus a quick kick of the ESA (if fitted) otherwise its only 10 mins workshop time - it can't do anything its only putting a fresh copy of a few tiny files or adding a tiny update then coding all the features as BMW built the bike...
its always a good idea to have the most recent - but dealers like to pretend its hard work or not a thing that can be done
if stuff is broken its broken - the update can't make it worse - and at least you start working from a known base
Kickstart1
Registered user
I much appreciate your help advice, my concer was that if it were re installed would find tpms and such like ?
Cheers
Cheers
there is no software change when you turn something like TPMS off - its just a tick box is or isn't ticked in the cluster display
and all the tick boxes are readily accessible with current aftermarket tools at an affordable price - few dealerships will tick or untick a box - for a start its a lot harder with their crappy tools
and all the tick boxes are readily accessible with current aftermarket tools at an affordable price - few dealerships will tick or untick a box - for a start its a lot harder with their crappy tools
Kickstart1
Registered user
I'll report any progress than you 
I didn't spot the point about your brake light not working - why wasn't that in the title
the brake light power and switching comes out of the ZFE (central chassis electronics - a box if tricks under the tank), they are beginning to die frequently - with many noticing the brake light issues before anything else
you can fit secondhand parts - but you will come a cropper if the donor isn't coded the same - whilst motoscan can turn on and off most features - he doesn't support VO changes - if the VO isn't matching in the DME, ZFE, and KI Cluster, certain features won't behave - fiddling with the bikes VO is more complex - HEX GS911 have some ability here, but you'd need to go via support and ask if they can help (or hope when it makes a back up of a failing ZFE it come out usable)
a fully loaded UK GSA of that era had a VO (vehicle order) like this - with bold affecting CANBUS comms around the bike (or features not working / providing some errors in later diagnostics)
X0135 Control, operating concept
X0321 Headlight left asymetric
X0326 Speedometer mph
X0350 Exhaust system, chrome
X0381 Operating instructions, English
X0416 ESA
X0430 Safety pack
X0432 Equipment package 2
X0519 Heated handlebar grips
X0530 RDC
X0539 On-board computer
X0562 Additional headlight
X0590 Direction indicator LED white
X0603 Alarm system
X0630 I-ABS generation 2
X0650 ASC
X0680 Case holder, aluminium case
X0736 National version Great Britain
chassis tools like this - that can get your VO - might be down due to summer closure / IT upgrades at the factory
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Your comments about the ZFEs dying more frequently have left me thinking.
Interested in some elaboration because now onto my third replacement rear speed sensor but with no obvious reasons why. Wondering if the sensors have all been fine and it's the ZFE?
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@Slipperyeel - Don't see how that could be the case as the wheel speed sensors connect directly to the ABS unit, whose only connection to the ZFE is via the CAN-bus.
Kickstart1
Registered user
Cheers for the in depth info Botus, a BMW car garage who I deal with and us quite knowledgeable has sorted the issue. It was a coding problem and he just write the VO back to the bike and it has fixed the abs and brake fail light.I didn't spot the point about your brake light not working - why wasn't that in the title
the brake light power and switching comes out of the ZFE (central chassis electronics - a box if tricks under the tank), they are beginning to die frequently - with many noticing the brake light issues before anything else
you can fit secondhand parts - but you will come a cropper if the donor isn't coded the same - whilst motoscan can turn on and off most features - he doesn't support VO changes - if the VO isn't matching in the DME, ZFE, and KI Cluster, certain features won't behave - fiddling with the bikes VO is more complex - HEX GS911 have some ability here, but you'd need to go via support and ask if they can help (or hope when it makes a back up of a failing ZFE it come out usable)
a fully loaded UK GSA of that era had a VO (vehicle order) like this - with bold affecting CANBUS comms around the bike (or features not working / providing some errors in later diagnostics)
X0135 Control, operating concept
X0321 Headlight left asymetric
X0326 Speedometer mph
X0350 Exhaust system, chrome
X0381 Operating instructions, English
X0416 ESA
X0430 Safety pack
X0432 Equipment package 2
X0519 Heated handlebar grips
X0530 RDC
X0539 On-board computer
X0562 Additional headlight
X0590 Direction indicator LED white
X0603 Alarm system
X0630 I-ABS generation 2
X0650 ASC
X0680 Case holder, aluminium case
X0736 National version Great Britain
chassis tools like this - that can get your VO - might be down due to summer closure / IT upgrades at the factory
bimmer.work : VIN Decoder for BMW
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I like to fix the fuel gauge from being g temperamental but if I've to live with that so ve it
fuel strip fun overly documented in this forum... u likley need one of these https://www.fuelsensortech.com/en
the RT bikes use the same sort of ZFE but they do brake lights via a VERY different method - there must be huge coding differences...
the R1200GS gets a two filament stop tail light bulb like the world had when it was still round
the R1200RT goes mental - using a single filament bulb and uses PWM (pulse width modulation) to wind down the effective power to give a Dim tail light - then when you brake the PWM goes normal and 12V lights up the 21W single filamanet bulbs all bright and stop light looking - they have two taillight bulbs as a fail safe (whereas I think the GS can put on a dim brake light if the tail light filament blows - that strangeness is something Merc have been doing for years - bulb suplementation or something)
the RT bikes use the same sort of ZFE but they do brake lights via a VERY different method - there must be huge coding differences...
the R1200GS gets a two filament stop tail light bulb like the world had when it was still round
the R1200RT goes mental - using a single filament bulb and uses PWM (pulse width modulation) to wind down the effective power to give a Dim tail light - then when you brake the PWM goes normal and 12V lights up the 21W single filamanet bulbs all bright and stop light looking - they have two taillight bulbs as a fail safe (whereas I think the GS can put on a dim brake light if the tail light filament blows - that strangeness is something Merc have been doing for years - bulb suplementation or something)
Kickstart1
Registered user
Hi Botus,
The fuel Guage has been perfect up until this coding error appearing. I removed the tank when initially investigating the brake light that'd stopped working, however as we know now that also was a coding issue. So now all is resolved regarding the coding reset the fuel Guage has started to play up. Is it possible to recalibrate the Guage?
check if it has a float or a heated glow in the dark strip inside the tank
they need wiring and coding differences to use the opposite fuel sender device - are you sure someone hasn't replaced your ZFE (due to failure) and just fitted one off another bike without sorting out the coding ?
coding doesn't not change and does not get corrupted
kids fiddle with stuff they don't understand
and parts go wrong and people like to fit secondhand stuff
the ZFE can be a ZFE High or a Basic. The High is for bikes with ESA and has a second large connection multiplug - only the HIGH seems to allow the Float to work these ZFEs support either or fuel sender - the Fuel strips just randomly die ALL the time
they need wiring and coding differences to use the opposite fuel sender device - are you sure someone hasn't replaced your ZFE (due to failure) and just fitted one off another bike without sorting out the coding ?
coding doesn't not change and does not get corrupted
kids fiddle with stuff they don't understand
and parts go wrong and people like to fit secondhand stuff
the ZFE can be a ZFE High or a Basic. The High is for bikes with ESA and has a second large connection multiplug - only the HIGH seems to allow the Float to work these ZFEs support either or fuel sender - the Fuel strips just randomly die ALL the time
Kickstart1
Registered user
I've had it from almost new in 2012, it is all original as per factory yes it has Esa, but like I said the issue has only started since it became corrupted.
The corruption was most likely caused because there wasn't additional battery back up when the Esa pre load was operated whilst in the test mode!
cars and bikes software and modules are robust enough these days - they don't need power to remember stuff - pop the power on off like an idiot - give it a volt spike - they don't care - circa 2000 stuff like Mercs and early canbus had issues - the later stuff doesn't care - the software ONLY gets muddled by fiddly fingers coding the wrong stuff or forcing the wrong software upon them - where info needs to sit in other lines of code as more diagnostic stuff or bug fixes shuffle stuff down the list
coding with low volts can cause fun - but most often low volts whilst playing is a comms issue with various modules around the bike - and occasional they forget how - and sort of boot muddled - here a battery reset is the cure - disconnect the battery and allow capacitors in modules to deplete (20 mins) then power back up with a fully charged battery and it should wake up normal
BMW like to hold the vehicles around 14 to 15V before you start molesting coding
coding with low volts can cause fun - but most often low volts whilst playing is a comms issue with various modules around the bike - and occasional they forget how - and sort of boot muddled - here a battery reset is the cure - disconnect the battery and allow capacitors in modules to deplete (20 mins) then power back up with a fully charged battery and it should wake up normal
BMW like to hold the vehicles around 14 to 15V before you start molesting coding
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