Georgeeboi
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Just read the final drive issues enough said!
multistrada or GS
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OscarIndia
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And every GS is taken off road
Some is better than none.
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wheeledwidewebb
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I have to say, if I were going somewhere a little 'rural' such as Morocco maybe, then I probably wouldn't jump on the Multi. Mind you I would be just as concerned about some kind of failure on a GS to be honest though.
Does this whole debate come down to the off road pretentions of these bikes then? Surely they will both perform off road (although both are too big of course) so the GS must come out on top in terms of being a bit more fixable in an African village (providing you have spokes) and the GS is better supported in terms of after Market equipment as well.
When it comes to tarmac though, things are different.
Despite loving both bikes, there is one other bike that really impressed me this year, dare I say the name in public?
In for a penny, in for a pound I guess. Triumph Tiger 800, what a bike. So much nicer than than the 800gs. Like the 800gs it is properly off roadable as well
. Sorry I have strayed. Buy a Multi anyway.
Does this whole debate come down to the off road pretentions of these bikes then? Surely they will both perform off road (although both are too big of course) so the GS must come out on top in terms of being a bit more fixable in an African village (providing you have spokes) and the GS is better supported in terms of after Market equipment as well.
When it comes to tarmac though, things are different.
Despite loving both bikes, there is one other bike that really impressed me this year, dare I say the name in public?
In for a penny, in for a pound I guess. Triumph Tiger 800, what a bike. So much nicer than than the 800gs. Like the 800gs it is properly off roadable as well
. Sorry I have strayed. Buy a Multi anyway.The GS (and MTS) is a great road bike IMHO, I do not feel I have to go and get it covered in shit to justify owning the thing.
I doubt I am in a minority in wanting a bike that handles well on all road types, is fun on bumpy back roads and narrow lanes (where sportsbikes and full on tourers are just no fun) whilst providing all day comfort, not to mention capable of touring for thousands of miles (with a top box full of spares of course)
The fact it can go over a birt of muddy ground is a bonus, I suspect the Tger 1050 and MTS are both fine on bumpy roads and gravel tracks which is all I need, and I guess enough for many other owners.
For me the Triumph had a better engine, the MTS was far faster and better handling, neither had the all round capabilities of the GS particularly missing out on two-up comfort and luggage capacity - the fact they were both less capable off-road made no odds to me.
I doubt I am in a minority in wanting a bike that handles well on all road types, is fun on bumpy back roads and narrow lanes (where sportsbikes and full on tourers are just no fun) whilst providing all day comfort, not to mention capable of touring for thousands of miles (with a top box full of spares of course)
The fact it can go over a birt of muddy ground is a bonus, I suspect the Tger 1050 and MTS are both fine on bumpy roads and gravel tracks which is all I need, and I guess enough for many other owners.
For me the Triumph had a better engine, the MTS was far faster and better handling, neither had the all round capabilities of the GS particularly missing out on two-up comfort and luggage capacity - the fact they were both less capable off-road made no odds to me.
snerkler
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Nope, the debate is all based on personal opinion. It's a strange phenomenon how folk will defend their posessions at all costs, even not being rational at times.
The beauty of the choice these days is that there's something to suit everybody. Does the fact that the MTS is much quicker than the GS/GSA make it a better bike? Nope, just that some will prefer it.
NorthernBoy
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I'm hoping to try the Multistrada S this weekend, with a view to swapping the GS for one if I like it enough.
I really love my GS, and have used it for everything from 700 mile days down through France, through riding up beyond where the roads stop on Mont Blanc, to the Nurburgring, and on UK track days, and it's more than coped with everything.
I think that the Ducati will have to be something very special indeed to be a better choice for me, but the reports suggest that it actually might be.
I don't go offroad any more on it, so won't iss that aspect, but I do, often, wish it had a bit more pull at higher speeds.
Anyway, I'll report back if I get out on it.
I really love my GS, and have used it for everything from 700 mile days down through France, through riding up beyond where the roads stop on Mont Blanc, to the Nurburgring, and on UK track days, and it's more than coped with everything.
I think that the Ducati will have to be something very special indeed to be a better choice for me, but the reports suggest that it actually might be.
I don't go offroad any more on it, so won't iss that aspect, but I do, often, wish it had a bit more pull at higher speeds.
Anyway, I'll report back if I get out on it.
NorthernBoy
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Took out a Multistrada S today, and was really impressed. Everything felt good, but the engine was the dominant feature. It was simply incredible.
I don't know if it has hit the right buttons, and can replace the GS, but it's one hell of a bike.
I don't know if it has hit the right buttons, and can replace the GS, but it's one hell of a bike.
Mighty_Quinn
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GS vs Tenere
I went to my local Yamaha dealer to test drive the Tenere as I was considering trading my GS800 in, it was raining and he said I could only take it out if I was really serious about buying one as they were limited supply etc ... I was so put off with his attitude I didn't take it out, I bought a GSA instead.
My local BMW dealer (Farringdon) is very friendly, you can take any bike out you want with no pressure, we often meet up there for a coffee and a chat before a ride out.
For me it's another couple of reasons to stick with BMW.
I went to my local Yamaha dealer to test drive the Tenere as I was considering trading my GS800 in, it was raining and he said I could only take it out if I was really serious about buying one as they were limited supply etc ... I was so put off with his attitude I didn't take it out, I bought a GSA instead.
My local BMW dealer (Farringdon) is very friendly, you can take any bike out you want with no pressure, we often meet up there for a coffee and a chat before a ride out.
For me it's another couple of reasons to stick with BMW.
Ross Dean
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That is poor! I was offered a test ride on the new Tenere by Irelands in Barnstaple, Devon. They knew that I had just bought new 800GS but were keen to spread the word and wanted to give me a go - a good approach - its gets the bike on the street and posts like this. I really enjoyed the Tenere for an hour on the roads surrounding Exmoor. Its a very different bike to the 800 of course. I found it comfortable with decent power and unusual low gearing until you get used to it. I really need to try out a new 1200GS to do a fair comparison
Simon_h
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when looking to replace my 660 tenere I considered both a super ten and GSA...as above, the reluctance to let me test ride a super ten pushed me into buying the GSA.
IJGser
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Test Rides
Are Ducati allowing longer than industry standard test rides? how long did you get?
Are BMW still leading the way on this front, went to ride the Tiger 800 told max 1 hour if i wanted more then BUY ONE told him i would keep my 7k. Shame really as i really wanted to size it up.
Are Ducati allowing longer than industry standard test rides? how long did you get?
Are BMW still leading the way on this front, went to ride the Tiger 800 told max 1 hour if i wanted more then BUY ONE told him i would keep my 7k. Shame really as i really wanted to size it up.
Bit of a short sighted Triumph dealer there.Webbs of Lincoln are my local Triumph dealer and were happy to let me have both the 800 and XC back to back for an afternoon.A more reasonable deal on a P/X would have had me signing up for the XC,which is an excellent bike.
wheeledwidewebb
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Well I am happy to name dealers that I have used recently and all of them operate a, come back when you are ready policy, or at least they did with me.
Kent motorcycles, Barham, nr Cantebury, Kent.
Laguna Ktm and Ducati, Ashford, Kent.
Laguna Triumph, Ashford, Kent.
Coopers BMW, Tunbridge Wells, Kent.
Cannon BMW, Braintree, Essex.
Go and see them.
Kent motorcycles, Barham, nr Cantebury, Kent.
Laguna Ktm and Ducati, Ashford, Kent.
Laguna Triumph, Ashford, Kent.
Coopers BMW, Tunbridge Wells, Kent.
Cannon BMW, Braintree, Essex.
Go and see them.
Depends if the bike is booked out to someone else that day!
I had 2 hours booked on the MS at Ducati Leeds but they told me I could have it all day if I wanted to as nobody else was booked in for a demo that day
AJ's are much the same, gonna have a morning on the DOHC R1200GSA followed by the afternoon on a K1600GT sometime soon!
NOG give about an hour, which I thought was the norm, they also let me take it out a second time and without that second ride I probably would not have bought one - although they lost out as I bought elsewhere (and decided to go for used) but I have bought some parts from them.
I have bought many bikes without test rides, but these days when considering new I would not buy without a decent bit of saddle time.
I have bought many bikes without test rides, but these days when considering new I would not buy without a decent bit of saddle time.
NorthernBoy
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I could have had a couple of hours, I think, but just took it for one.
I'll have to try another out of town, I think.
One plus from the ride was that I saw a nice scooter in the shop (Aprilia Sportcity 300 Blackline), so am getting one of those to tide me over.
I'll have to try another out of town, I think.
One plus from the ride was that I saw a nice scooter in the shop (Aprilia Sportcity 300 Blackline), so am getting one of those to tide me over.
nickmaris
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I recently had my 2009 GSA stolen, at 1 in the afternoon from in front of Richmond's magistrate court. Regret the police were not at all interested even though the theft was caught on CCTV, anyway..
I thought I'd try a Multistrada. My summary it would have been a good replacement for my Honda fireblade, similar performance, but with a usable riding posture. But I re-discovered that I didn't really enjoy the painful level of performance that modern superbikes offer. What's the point of a the power if you never use it, of if when you do it's either frightening or license busting?
I also found the Multistrada's gearbox baulky as the bike got hot in traffic.
So back to a new GSA - twincam version, which does seem surprisingly livelier than my last one.
I thought I'd try a Multistrada. My summary it would have been a good replacement for my Honda fireblade, similar performance, but with a usable riding posture. But I re-discovered that I didn't really enjoy the painful level of performance that modern superbikes offer. What's the point of a the power if you never use it, of if when you do it's either frightening or license busting?
I also found the Multistrada's gearbox baulky as the bike got hot in traffic.
So back to a new GSA - twincam version, which does seem surprisingly livelier than my last one.
I know this thread was about the new Multi, but i would like to just add that i have The Ducati 1000ds Multistrada, yes you guys are right its probably not the same as riding a GS, it is aimed as a touring bike and the designer designed it whilst riding back wards and for wards through the Futa Pass, but it is not an off the road bike but it does tour on the road really well, we have ridden a lot of Scotland and Cumbria, Northumberland and Yorkshire with this bike and its been great, but on the flip side of the coin i still want a gs as well, for several reasons, 1 being the amount of extras that is available for the gs, 2 a lot easier to get parts if needed whilst traveling and i look forward to having one.
I am no expert just thought i would drop a line about the multi.
I am no expert just thought i would drop a line about the multi.
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