Need a little help...bike has cut out

did you check the fuse ...ringed in red ?
I understood that was a software fuse rather than a real fuse? Also, can't find the flippin fuses anyway. Anyone know where they are?

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can you reset it ?
Interested you say that. The guys in the garage where I've left the bike were pushing me to try it...their version! So the guy who I can communicate with (I don't speak French, but he's Italian) and I did a precedure that made me a little nervous. He disconnected the earth and put a jump wire between it and the positive terminal for about 2min.

I was about to leave before he insisted. But it's made no difference! I did however think to disconnect the earth for about 10min, just leaving it. Then reconnect. Is this what you mean by resetting?

Open to all ideas. Tomorrow it will be taken to the BMW dealer in Metz. I need the diagnosis before I can plan my next move...

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Late to the party so have not read it all.
I assume that you have tried to spin the starter over to start the bike by using Screwdriver or any piece of metal across terminals A & C in the photo.

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Late to the party so have not read it all.
I assume that you have tried to spin the starter over to start the bike by using Screwdriver or any piece of metal across terminals A & C in the photo.

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Hello Mistercat - thanks for this tip. Not tried it! I'm guessing this will tell me what's alive or not!

I'll try this first thing!

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Before I hit the sack.

I've decided that first thing tomorrow I'm going to disconnect the PDM I've recently installed from the battery. Clear the codes with the GS911 (can I do this with the phone app?!) then... See what happens. I just want to eliminate them since it and the heated seat are prime suspects having been fitted just recently....

After that, maybe the starter relay, and do a swap? Beyond this, I need another brain on it!

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We had a similar fault on a friend's 1200. It was a broken wire in the loom around the headstock. Internal break so not obvious. Never got a code readout as I sorted at the road side.
This could be a red herring though 🤔
 
We had a similar fault on a friend's 1200. It was a broken wire in the loom around the headstock. Internal break so not obvious. Never got a code readout as I sorted at the road side.
This could be a red herring though 🤔
I had similar on my 06 hexhead , but was accompanied by EWS on the Kobmi

IO believe this is a later bike
 
No joy over here with last night's ideas.
I disconnected all the accessories - there's not so many! Cleared the faults but no change.

Unless I didn't check the coils properly, but it's hardly a difficult thing! Then I'm really stumped.

Being collected soon and going to BMW in Metz. Told they are ready to accept the bike and claim to promise a quick diagnosis. Not sure how they can say that. But of course I'm hoping they are right!

Update later!

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No joy over here with last night's ideas.
I disconnected all the accessories - there's not so many! Cleared the faults but no change.

Unless I didn't check the coils properly, but it's hardly a difficult thing! Then I'm really stumped.

Being collected soon and going to BMW in Metz. Told they are ready to accept the bike and claim to promise a quick diagnosis. Not sure how they can say that. But of course I'm going thru are right!

Update later!

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Wishing you luck Sir 👍
 
Wishing you luck Sir
Thanks. My annoyance side, I am now desperate to know what the hell has gone wrong! I will of course share the news when I get it!

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I get the feeling there is one issue, that has been expanded to cover everything

The initial fault is the bike cut out , then a subsequent fault that the bike wouldn't restart

The focus seems to have been on why the bike wont restart

The restarting issue, isnt the reason why the bike cut out

Its straight forward, suck, squeeze, bang, blow,

Go through those logically and you should find the root of the problem

Id be focusing on why a seeming healthy bike cuts out
 
I get the feeling there is one issue, that has been expanded to cover everything

The initial fault is the bike cut out , then a subsequent fault that the bike wouldn't restart

The focus seems to have been on why the bike wont restart

The restarting issue, isnt the reason why the bike cut out

Its straight forward, suck, squeeze, bang, blow,

Go through those logically and you should find the root of the problem

Id be focusing on why a seeming healthy bike cuts out
Hi Santa. I get your thinking completely, but my own thinking is only on just that - what has caused it to cut out. I see non starting as just a symptom. Asking with the alarm misbehaving.

Currently on the way to the BMW dealer in Metz. Huge amount of inertia over here compounded with 2hr lunch breaks .

The tank needs to come off. Check my wiring from the heated seat switch and the subsequent relay to write them off the list and if any overheating has damaged part of the loom. Though I have to say, everything else I see of my wiring looks fine and I can see the relay just under the tank. But until that's off, can't be sure. The PDM however it's set with a virtual 10A fuse, so if it was shorting, surely that would have tripped?

Will update you all - probably tomorrow

For the wild thinkers, I noticed when passing the spot where I pulled over, there is a mass of pilons carrying cables away from a power station. They're literally 150-200m from the roadside. Can't believe that's done anything otherwise there would be a pile of broken down vehicles at the bottom of the hill. But in my effort to blame someone...

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Good luck finding the problem. You mentioned how cold it has been. Heated seat, grips etc... all potentially stress the electrics and I guess they've all been flat out. I hope you get back on your way soon.
 
IMHE .
alarms ...
have 2 power supplies
1 on a fuse
and 1 on a switched live
1st one powers the alarm when the bike is off
the 2nd tells the alarm the bike is alive
if the first one breaks , the alarm should charge off the 2nd one
if the 2nd one breaks , the alarm should arm /scream/flash indicators ,
but may also cut off the fuel pump ( depending on how it is wired ) and the starter motor .

i have no idea how BMW wire theirs in.

hth
 


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