New to CRN & CRA - Please indulge me.

[the woodster]

I took the bike out today to test the CRN on its inaugural outing. I had a route loaded from MRA via the CRApp . Upon my return I had a proper dig through the menus and read all the posts/threads to date in this section but could not find answers to the questions below:

1. Can I do anything about the size of the icons on the screen that are part of the mapping? I can't see the road numbers or locations along the route.

2. Can I turn off the automatic route recalculation or ask for it to be prompted on screen?

3. When using an A to B route the road travel displays in the following way: Blue ahead of the arrow, marking the intended route and black indicating the route behind you. When I loaded and started the MRA route, at times, the route turned into a black and white stripey animation. What does that indicate? When I zoomed out, the entire loop animated in this way. This did not happen to my buddy whose has an identical set up and his route ran in the expected fashion.

4. When starting a loaded route, you get two options: 'Via the start point' and 'Direct route'. What EXACTLY do these phrases mean? I pressed 'Via the start point' assuming this meant the start point on my loaded route (Andover) and that it would calculate the quickest route from my 'gaff' in 'the smoke' to get there. All it did was try and turn me around until I stopped the navigation. I then re-started the route using 'Direct route' and bingo, it took me to the start point of the route in Andover.

Thank you.

 

[Wapping]

When starting a loaded route, you get two options: 'Via the start point' and 'Direct route'. What EXACTLY do these phrases mean? I pressed 'Via the start point' assuming this meant the start point on my loaded route (Andover) and that it would calculate the quickest route from my 'gaff' in 'the smoke' to get there. All it did was try and turn me around until I stopped the navigation. I then re-started the route using 'Direct route' and bingo, it took me to the start point of the route in Andover.

I do not have a ‘Navigator’ device but I suspect it might work in the same way as the ConnectedRide app, used on my 1600. Please note, I have not used the ConnectedRide app very often, so this may well not be entirely correct. It is based largely on experiments run thro’ this thread:

https://www.ukgser.com/community/th...-recalculating-and-sending-you-around.417041/

Have a read through it.

As far as I can make out, when running a bespoke route (ie. one you have created for yourself in, say, MyRoute) the ‘Via start point’ will, when you run the route, display a route from where you are standing to the end point but it will alter the bespoke route you created.

If you select ‘Direct route’, it will take you from where you are standing, to the start point of the bespoke route you created and along it thereafter to the end point.

When using an A to B route the road travel displays in the following way: Blue ahead of the arrow, marking the intended route and black indicating the route behind you. When I loaded and started the MRA route, at times, the route turned into a black and white stripey animation. What does that indicate? When I zoomed out, the entire loop animated in this way. This did not happen to my buddy whose has an identical set up and his route ran in the expected fashion.

I am guessing again but I think the black and white stripey animation might be either:

A. A track log

B. An indication that that part was off-route

Can I turn off the automatic route recalculation or ask for it to be prompted on screen?

I don’t think you can turn it off or turn it to prompted, as you can with say a Garmin device. I think the BMW motorbike app and device is lifted from their car navigation system, where people simply ask it for “Take me from where I am sitting (A) to my destination (B)”. They want the route to recalculate, as they had no real input into how the system created the route in the first place. To be fair to car drivers, lots of bikermates use their GPS devices in the same way. They too, want and need the device to recalculate.

Can I do anything about the size of the icons on the screen that are part of the mapping?

I don’t think you can alter the size. I think the system relies as much on voice instructions, as it does on its visual display.

PS It is often a good idea to ask multiple questions in separate posts. For example, four separate posts for your four questions. This way, it helps to find the answers you are looking for, without sieving through things.

PPS BMW are a vehicle manufacturer, not a dedicated GPS navigation company. I strongly suspect that the app and device development is not a huge department within BMW. They seem to have bought in a TomTom based platform and tacked BMW stuff onto it, much of it aimed at the lowest common denominator of user ie. the fellow who says: “Take me from A to B, avoiding motorways but maximising twisties”. The problem this creates is that the app’s development and / or sorting out glitches may well not be a huge priority in Munich. But we digress.

PPPS There may well be a large number of new ConnectedRide Navigator users coming through, each on their spanking new 1300’s. Hopefully some of them will take the trouble to share their knowledge and experience with this section of the forum…. Unless urgent comment on the best gloves to wear, overrides it

 

[the woodster]

I do not have a ‘Navigator’ device but I suspect it might work in the same way as the ConnectedRide app, used on my 1600. Please note, I have not used the ConnectedRide app very often, so this may well not be entirely correct. It is l based largely on experiments run thro’ this thread:

https://www.ukgser.com/community/th...-recalculating-and-sending-you-around.417041/

Have a read through it.

As far as I can make out, when running a bespoke route (ie. one you have created for yourself in, say, MyRoute) the ‘Via start point’ will, when you run the route, display a route from where you are standing to the end point but it will alter the bespoke route you created.

If you select ‘Direct route’, it will take you from where you are standing, to the start point of the bespoke route you created and along it thereafter to the end point.



I am guessing again but I think the black and white stripey animation might be either:

A. A track log

B. An indication that that part was off-route



I don’t think you can turn it off or turn it to prompted, as you can with say a Garmin device. I think the BMW motorbike app and device is lifted from their car navigation system, where people simply ask it for “Take me from where I am sitting (A) to my destination (B)”. They want the route to recalculate, as they had no real input into how the system created the route in the first place. To be fair to car drivers, lots of bikermates use their GPS devices in the same way. They too, want and need the device to recalculate.



I don’t think you can alter the size. I think the system relies as much on voice instructions, as it does on its visual display.

PS It is often a good idea to ask multiple questions in separate posts. For example, four separate posts for your four questions. This way, it helps to find the answers you are looking for, without sieving through things.

PPS BMW are a vehicle manufacturer, not a dedicated GPS navigation company. I strongly suspect that the app and device development is not a huge department within BMW. They seem to have bought in a TomTom based platform and tacked BMW stuff onto it, much of it aimed at the lowest common denominator of user ie. the fellow who says: “Take me from A to B, avoiding motorways but maximising twisties”. The problem this creates is that the app’s development and / or sorting out glitches may well not be a huge priority in Munich. But we digress.

PPPS There may well be a large number of new ConnectedRide Navigator users coming through, each on their spanking new 1300’s. Hopefully some of them will take the trouble to share their knowledge and experience with this section of the forum…. Unless urgent comment on the best gloves to wear, overrides it

Thanks, Richard. What you say or surmise makes sense, considering what we did yesterday on the trip e.g. straying off the route because another road looked better. I am going to persevere with the CRN as it has the potential to be exactly what I want - and no doubt far more. If I establish anything groundbreaking, I will post it for other CRN users but suspect I am a little behind the curve! You make a very valid point and I will split my questions up in the future.

They've got the integration with the Whizz wheel thingy spot on. It's also lightning fast compared to my V.

 

[Wapping]

The wonder wheel really is very good.

Have fun investigating.

 

[the woodster]

https://www.ukgser.com/community/th...-recalculating-and-sending-you-around.417041/

I have now read your thread as advised and it has explained my point 4 above. I left my gaff and it realised that the M25 was chocka from where I would join to J10. So it tried to re-route me cross-country to join the M25 later. Being a contrary bastard, I decided to use the M25. So it was trying to take me back to ride the section I had missed out. If you go off route, the CRA makes you go back to where you left it, not like the Garmin which finds a way to get you back on route at a later point as long as you roughly follow the right direction of original travel.

Thanks very much, it was baffling me.

I see you found it to be quite fickle, working fine then not later. This type of behaviour is reported in user groups.
The trouble is, a fickle app could seriously undermine the usability of the CRN if they are used in conjunction, which I think most people are doing.

 

[Victor c]

I’ve binned using MRA for creating routes for the CRN, and just use the Connectedride app. This way, way points show accurately and it is easy to skip one if you go off route and don’t want to be routed back to any missed ones.

There is currently no option to turn off auto reroute, but to be honest, that’s not a feature I’ve missed with this, as it just routes you to the next waypoint (or as explained above, you can skip the next waypoint if it is behind you).

If you go off route for any reason, when you start off again, click “Direct” option. This way, it routes you to the next waypoint.

Now I’ve used the CRN for a two euro tour, I much prefer it to any other nav’s I’ve used, including Nav V, Nav VI and Garmin XT. The mapping is much cleaner and devoid of unnecessary clutter and it has been 100% reliable and accurate. It also auto creates a to b routes better than previous nav’s I’ve used. It is just different, and takes a bit to get used to.

 

[Wapping]

Thank you for the additional information, Victor c.