Looks cool, am curious if it make any difference at motorway speeds!Got my Enduro cockpit fairing ;-)
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R12 G/S Enduro
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Why? What makes Chris an “armchair” user reviewer?* If anyone can ride and tell about the bikes off-road capabilities, then Chris would be one a few guys I’d be listening to.
*or was it meant to be funny, a bit of tongue in cheek comment of yours?
Just a touch of irony - he is incredibly qualified and has actually used the bike hard, whereas a lot of people comment and provide opinions when they’ve not had the experience of the bike. If Nathan Millward or whatever his name is can ride an Australian Post bike all the way back to the UK, then this looks just a bit more capable of being more than a Sunday ‘bimble’ bike.
The bike looks amazing John and I’m sure it will serve you really well.
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Please DM me, as I have some questions but cannot reach you, apparently.
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Ape is right , the manual shows a check at 12K , replacement at 48K and nothing after that , may be a typo by BMW but that’s what it shows
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I refer to the handbook Service Maintenance Schedule page 218. The table is clear. I also do not see the phrase you quote with regard to the driveshaft, Perhaps the Netherlands version is worded different. In any case it doesn’t make sense perhaps a typo as suggested. It surprises me if BMW really require a replacement every 24k has anyone else been told this ?
computer_freak
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English manual of the R 12 G/S 0N21 EUR, page 221 and 222:
There is a little F next to the 24k mile cell, which refers to F on the next page.
My dealership has an application that the mechanics use to see which maintenance a bike needs and they confirmed the 24k miles (40k kilometer) drive shaft change.
Not a big deal if you tend to trade the bike in after a few years but for long term owners it can become expensive to have to swap it out periodically.
That fairing is looking great! I am also wondering about highway use.
I tend to put 50k on a bike so I agree this is an issue for high mileage owners. A new driveshaft every 24k is a joke. May as well have sprockets and a chain and save some weight ! Thanks for pointing this out I assume the omission of the X at 48 k is a typo.
Agreed - what's the point of having shaft drive if it needs to be replaced as often as a well looked after set of chain and sprockets
Interesting to compare the service intervals with my Triumph 1200 Scrambler which needs valves every 20,000 miles as opposed to 6,000 on the G/S and oil every 10,000 miles as opposed to 6,000 on the G/S (obviously not a problem if you do 6k miles or less a year).
computer_freak
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Short valve interval isn't an issue on a boxer engine with easy access.
Ducati has the valve service at 18k miles but charges 5 hours of labour. Would rather have the BMW valves every 6k miles which shouldn't take more than an hour.
Plus you can do the BMW valves in a parking lot when you are on holiday.
I found the Triumph overweight and under powered.
The Urban GS and R12 g/s are just overweight.
The Triumph also felt a bit cheap
The Urban GS and R12 g/s are just overweight.
The Triumph also felt a bit cheap
Not got round to trying the new R12 yet but did have a R9T Scrambler for several years which was replaced by my 2024 1200XE which is IMO better in almost every way. Technically less outright power but made up for with all that low down torque
Later 1200XE's have Marzocchi suspension which is more compliant/less harsh than the earlier ones.Will definitely have a go on the R12 at some point but would have to be very good to temp me to swap out my Triumph.
I’ve just last week swapped my 2022 Rally Pro 900 for a 2022 R1250 Rally GSA. The main reason was that I didn’t like the very expensive valve service every other year. It was a very good bike in other respects. I just fancied a change too. I put 18300 miles on it in the 3 years I owned it and was very easy to live with. I did intend to swap it for the F900GSA but that bike is very top heavy, it felt heavier than the R1250GSA. This is what brought me to the R1250GSA. A mate and a brother have both had the Triumph 1200s which I did ride, they seemed very heavy compared to my 900. My Rally Pro was a much easier bike off road than I imagine the R1250GSA to be. I now have an old DR650 for off road so the big GSA will be staying on the tarmac or very gentle gravel roads.
So if looking at the 900 engined bikes the Triumph is much lighter to use than the BMW. In the 1200-1250 engines I like the BMW better as the weight is much lower making it more manageable.
So if looking at the 900 engined bikes the Triumph is much lighter to use than the BMW. In the 1200-1250 engines I like the BMW better as the weight is much lower making it more manageable.
I was also thinking Tiger 900 as an option. Is that valve service regardless of mileage ? How much is very expensive ?
I must admit, I liked the Triumph XE a lot. only modern bike I liked at the time and still think they look great. But the valve clearance thing and the tft which is a £1k replacement if you bin it off road or if screen cracks which seemed common on early models, I just could not justify that outlay it’s mental imo, design it out.
I may have to try one.
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