R1300 GS vs. R1250 GS comparison

All of this talk of sportiness makes me want an Italian mistress, dressed in red and black that pushes to 180bhp but runs out of juice quick so I don’t get too tired out.:D
 
Re watched it again , the last few comments about the V4 s being a Giddy bike , I would disagree as after 3 , they were fast but exhausting as its a battle all the time to keep smooth and fast at the same time , ballistic yes but more of a quick blast than all day speed , its a big difference compared to the Gs (both the1250 and the 1300) as you can just keep going , fast , all day. I used to get back after 300 miles and was knackered as wrestling the V4 all day , the Gs , easy and as fast ( well unless you look at test tracks ) and could go again. The 1300 wheelies as easy as the V4 for the record.
 
Re watched it again , the last few comments about the V4 s being a Giddy bike , I would disagree as after 3 , they were fast but exhausting as its a battle all the time to keep smooth and fast at the same time , ballistic yes but more of a quick blast than all day speed , its a big difference compared to the Gs (both the1250 and the 1300) as you can just keep going , fast , all day. I used to get back after 300 miles and was knackered as wrestling the V4 all day , the Gs , easy and as fast ( well unless you look at test tracks ) and could go again. The 1300 wheelies as easy as the V4 for the record.

You’re turning slowly into Boxerlust .
For the record , I’d say 99% of tossers have zero interest how the V4 and 1300 compare in hoisting a minger
 
You’re turning slowly into Boxerlust .
For the record , I’d say 99% of tossers have zero interest how the V4 and 1300 compare in hoisting a minger
No , just making a comment on the statement made in the Vid , plus I have owned 3 V4s so my comment is justified. The wheelie thing is personal , but many say its docile compared to the competition , it is not , I know.
You love the vids , just thought a few comments on experience and ownership may be relevant. But perhaps not in some cases . Oh a Gs on the back wheel is a thing of unbalanced idiocy similar to a fat bird dancing , fun tho . :D :D :D
 
Re watched it again , the last few comments about the V4 s being a Giddy bike , I would disagree as after 3 , they were fast but exhausting as its a battle all the time to keep smooth and fast at the same time , ballistic yes but more of a quick blast than all day speed , its a big difference compared to the Gs (both the1250 and the 1300) as you can just keep going , fast , all day. I used to get back after 300 miles and was knackered as wrestling the V4 all day , the Gs , easy and as fast ( well unless you look at test tracks ) and could go again. The 1300 wheelies as easy as the V4 for the record.
 
No , the 1300 is just better than the 1250 simple as that . I would not go back to the 1250 now as it’s not as good and dated in a nice way . The platform had moved on .
If the 1300 has plugged a leak of needs for the more adventurous rider .
I forget which UK mag - but their review was an utter joke...

its better but its worse, its so much safer, the steering is better you can feel the front and there's much more control - but it feels dangerous

its so powerful - you wonder if its safe

And the point of pitching it like that - he needs to spend a month on a KTM 1290 with the traction control turned off and learn to ride... then I read a review in an Ozzy mag that made sense - a stark contrast - clearly the guy in Oz knew what a motorbike was and has held a license for more than 3 minutes unlike the gen z prat lying in UK magazines


wow just suffered that pathetic video on page one - delete that post and just read the link here
 
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All of this talk of sportiness makes me want an Italian mistress, dressed in red and black that pushes to 180bhp but runs out of juice quick so I don’t get too tired out.:D
was once engaged to a girl a bit like that.....
 
Vid is interesting
For me, I agree with the statements at 46 minutes in "when I am 1000 miles from home". That was our (2 mates and myself) view too after going to see and play with the new 1300. Getting off the ferry at Igoumenitsa.... at that moment, the 1300 would not make me any happier than on my current GS. Heading up into the mountains near the Albania border - I'll stick with my current GS thanks. I rarely use my GS for short sporty rides which (for me) is where the 1300 would win hands down (as per the video)...
 
I feel the new one will fit well with long distance. Ran mine in in 2 days and found great after 2 , 300 mile days. Each ride out for me is a minimum of 300 plus miles and the bike feels , dare I say, better , all day than my previous 1250.
I get the being away from home bit but the new bike should fit the bill well as you can still cruise / potter as much as you like with the added bonus of the sporty bit. The new package is win win and does indeed make me happier than I was on the 1250 and also the V4s.
Cant wait to get out on the next day trip and also the Spain run of 7 full riding days 2000 miles + in the sun and mountains and passes roll on September .
But again its a different feel for all and just thought I would post a reply up. (y) (y)
 
Did a longer 400 plus run on Sunday , all minor roads and the bike just shined . It was awesome , and it just gets better and better every time I go out on it and push it harder . The bike responds with clever intuition in situations that would have unsettled the 1250 , not in a bad way , but the 1300 deals better . Better suspension , better handling with the movement of the weight around the chassis , the additional feel from the front end , more usable power , loads of pluses its a long list . Simply put , its just better .
If I had to choose from a line up of bikes the 1300 followed buy the V4s then the 1250 and last the Ktm. This list is made purely on the back roads of Wales and the mountains of Spain , France and Italy. I have jet to take the 1300 to Europe but would bet my pension its better a lot better and will split my cheeks with a grin you could park a bike in.
I have been offered the new XR 1000 for a day by my dealer but its just a one trick pony , I will give it a go as having a new rear calliper fitted , but its an A road missile , not a road munching fast road bike . Tried them before and as much as they made you go fook me , it was just that , nothing more. No passenger ability , no luggage and just OTT. Would track it as due to injury that stops sports bike riding it would fit the bill well with its more upright position for me , good fun.
 
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Did a longer 400 plus run on Sunday , all minor roads and the bike just shined . It was awesome , and it just gets better and better every time I go out on it and push it harder . The bike responds with clever intuition in situations that would have unsettled the 1250 , not in a bad way , but the 1300 deals better . Better suspension , better handling with the movement of the weight around the chassis , the additional feel from the front end , more usable power , loads of pluses its a long list . Simply put , its just better .
If I had to choose from a line up of bikes the 1300 followed buy the V4s then the 1250 and last the Ktm. This list is made purely on the back roads of Wales and the mountains of Spain , France and Italy. I have jet to take the 1300 to Europe but would bet my pension its better a lot better and will split my cheeks with a grin you could park a bike in.
I have been offered the new XR 1000 for a day by my dealer but its just a one trick pony , I will give it a go as having a new rear calliper fitted , but its an A road missile , not a road munching fast road bike . Tried them before and as much as they made you go fook me , it was just that , nothing more. No passenger ability , no luggage and just OTT. Would track it as due to injury that stops sports bike riding it would fit the bill well with its more upright position for me , good fun.

It’s only the M1000 XR that has no luggage options . You can fit panniers to the other normal XRs
 
It’s only the M1000 XR that has no luggage options . You can fit panniers to the other normal XRs
I know , but its not my type of bike for where I ride as its OTT . I did test ride the XR a few years back and just could not jell with it , viby , revvy and I dont know , just not nice.
Must be me but just could not keep a constant speed its was all or nothing , very much like the SDR , fun but .....
 
then I read a review in an Ozzy mag that made sense - a stark contrast - clearly the guy in Oz knew what a motorbike was and has held a license for more than 3 minutes unlike the gen z prat lying in UK magazines
Not true, only the standard has that weight. Everything is striped down: "Most of the things I wanted changed from the previous model were addressed. Being smaller and lighter, for a start, is a massive move in the right direction. It’s down a whopping 12kg over the last model and sits at 237kg fully fuelled."
Learn to change gears?: Most notably in the lower three cogs.
Is a wheelie that important? Twat.
Tested the new 1300GS, found the gearbox and the screen better than on the 1250. The rest of the package left me thinking...it's an evolution, but not worth changing. I really look forward to see what they do with the RS. Those who change from a 1200 LC would notice the difference. However it is a free country and every one has an opinion.
 
We shouldn’t be surprised the 1300 is a little bit better than the 1250 in everything. How long has it been in development for with prototypes seen in the wild for at least 2 years? My mates new 1300 was parked up to my 1250, and my 1250 looked like the Millenium Falcon in comparison… aged, but you knew it could do Warp9 if needed.
I’d like a 1300 - in due course - but my 1250 is still brilliant, not high mileage, and I haven’t heard anything that says the 1300 is worth £10k cost to change over a lowish mile 1250. But I do like that the 1300 is slightly smaller - my only criticism of the 1250 is that it feels 10% too big.
 
We shouldn’t be surprised the 1300 is a little bit better than the 1250 in everything. How long has it been in development for with prototypes seen in the wild for at least 2 years? My mates new 1300 was parked up to my 1250, and my 1250 looked like the Millenium Falcon in comparison… aged, but you knew it could do Warp9 if needed.
I’d like a 1300 - in due course - but my 1250 is still brilliant, not high mileage, and I haven’t heard anything that says the 1300 is worth £10k cost to change over a lowish mile 1250. But I do like that the 1300 is slightly smaller - my only criticism of the 1250 is that it feels 10% too big.

It would be pretty poor if the 1300 was worse at everything than the 1250
 


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